The Official Irishenvy Fire Tommy Rees Thread

[irishff1014]

Joe Brady
Brian Hartline
Or Urban Meyer 🤣🤣🤣

Why would you hire hartline? 2nd year head coach and a first time OC. That’s sounds like a really bad ideal no matter how good he recruits.

 

[BeatSC]

He got the job because he is a young, energetic, and a relentless recruiter, who his players connected with. The team and administration wanted to keep the continuity that he was building within the program. Obviously he is inexperienced but they believe he offered higher rewards. And they knew he would need to learn on the job.

He is the opposite of BK.

It has nothing to do with race. Or because he’s stylish.

And Tommy didn’t get his job because Kelly was his daddy........

 

[BeatSC]

Freeman has no history. You can’t decide he is doomed after seven games. For every coach that has failed, there is one that has succeeded.

Kirby Smart and Dabo Swinney both had porous starts to their coaching career. Coaches that had no previous experience. Some had said during their transitions they weren’t up to the job, too.

Freeman will need make changes. Give him that opportunity to find the solution.

Did Kirby and Dabo lose to two teams at home within 6 games while being favored by 20? Guys doesn’t know what he’s doing and it shows visibly and in the results. A top notch QB or even Coan or Book would have guided us to wins against Marshall and Stanford so right now Tommy’s job Ian in his QBs hands so he might want to think hard about rolling the dice with a much more athletic Angeli. Watching what the Purdue 5th string QB is doing with his portal WR Charlie Smith (little white guy) just tells me we don’t know talent and can’t develop it. I didn’t watch the game but read almost the entire board and watched the little bit of highlights or lowlights from the game. We really should have won this game with just one break, one catch of a dropped pass or a non fumble by Payne or Estime. THOMAS should have easily got to the edge on 4th down. To lose the TOP by that much isn’t embarrassing though.

Who can tell me Angeli can’t play better than Pyne did?

We will see Pyne and Tommy do well against UNLV and silence all us naysayers until they both suck again prior to Clemson.

 

[indianamouse]

Did Kirby and Dabo lose to two teams at home within 6 games while being favored by 20? Guys doesn’t know what he’s doing and it shows visibly and in the results. A top notch QB or even Coan or Book would have guided us to wins against Marshall and Stanford so right now Tommy’s job Ian in his QBs hands so he might want to think hard about rolling the dice with a much more athletic Angeli. Watching what the Purdue 5th string QB is doing with his portal WR Charlie Smith (little white guy) just tells me we don’t know talent and can’t develop it. I didn’t watch the game but read almost the entire board and watched the little bit of highlights or lowlights from the game. We really should have won this game with just one break, one catch of a dropped pass or a non fumble by Payne or Estime. THOMAS should have easily got to the edge on 4th down. To lose the TOP by that much isn’t embarrassing though.

Who can tell me Angeli can’t play better than Pyne did?

We will see Pyne and Tommy do well against UNLV and silence all us naysayers until they both suck again prior to Clemson.

I mean, Saban lost to ULM

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

I'm not a huge NFL guy, but I live in Philly and the Eagles offense is what the ND offense should look like. Powerful, athletic, Oline that wants to run first. Solid running backs. Elite tight end. QB who can sling it but also move when he has to. One big WR, and one quick guy in the slot. They're legit.

 

[FOTY977]

Yeah, this scan stuff being the core offense makes no sense at this point. It probably looks really good on paper. I would rather see us run the wishbone than this.

Just like everything else about Tommy

 

[BeatSC]

I bet ULM had a better record ore than Marshall or Stanford will.

 

[Te'o4Heisman]

I get what you’re saying, but Yes, if history proved that stock was doomed, I’d pull it out. I have nearly 0% evidence that Freeman has any chance at success based on what he’s shown and based on the enormous evidence to suggest that first time head coaches fail. this is particularly true when you look at coaches that took over elite and relevant programs and managed to tear them down to their lowest point in a decade or more in the matter of months.

We get it dude, you dont Freeman. No need to say the same thing over and over again a million different ways in the 24 hr period after a loss. Where are you when the team does well?

 

[Te'o4Heisman]

Need to fire both Rees and Pyne. Some of the clips I’ve seen on Twitter today are just unreal. He is not even a MAC level QB.

Care to share? Im interested…

 

[Calabrese's People]

Need to fire both Rees and Pyne. Some of the clips I’ve seen on Twitter today are just unreal. He is not even a MAC level QB.

Pyne has to sit.

Its Peanut Butter time. You have to at least see what you've got there. This is a walking surrender.

 

[Sea Turtle]

We get it dude, you dont Freeman. No need to say the same thing over and over again a million different ways in the 24 hr period after a loss. Where are you when the team does well?

When has the team done well this season outside of UNC? And even then we let them back in it.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

I can 100% say that Freeze will never be on staff.

He has a recruiting violations list at each one of his stops as long as my...... well lets just says it long. Very long.

 

[Irish4life]

Did Kirby and Dabo lose to two teams at home within 6 games while being favored by 20? Guys doesn’t know what he’s doing and it shows visibly and in the results. A top notch QB or even Coan or Book would have guided us to wins against Marshall and Stanford so right now Tommy’s job Ian in his QBs hands so he might want to think hard about rolling the dice with a much more athletic Angeli. Watching what the Purdue 5th string QB is doing with his portal WR Charlie Smith (little white guy) just tells me we don’t know talent and can’t develop it. I didn’t watch the game but read almost the entire board and watched the little bit of highlights or lowlights from the game. We really should have won this game with just one break, one catch of a dropped pass or a non fumble by Payne or Estime. THOMAS should have easily got to the edge on 4th down. To lose the TOP by that much isn’t embarrassing though.

Who can tell me Angeli can’t play better than Pyne did?

We will see Pyne and Tommy do well against UNLV and silence all us naysayers until they both suck again prior to Clemson.

Kirby year 1 lost at home to Vanderbilt

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

He has a recruiting violations list at each one of his stops as long as my...... well lets just says it long. Very long.

He (Freeze) also has a head coaching job right now and isn't going to leave to be the OC anywhere let alone Notre Dame. He's waiting for his second chance and he's probably going to get one at some point.

 

[notredomer23]

Kirby year 1 lost at home to Vanderbilt

And beat Nicholls State 26-24

 

[IrishLax]

Care to share? Im interested…

Let me go see if I can dig them up, but it was basically a tweet thread with:
1. Wide open Lenzy miss
2. Bad throw to Styles (he still should have caught it) on another easy TD
3. Staring down receivers (mostly Mayer) and throwing into double coverage repeatedly. Completely pre-determined where he was going to go with the ball and they just read his eyes the whole way.
4. Having a clean pocket for 3+ seconds and not going through any progressions to find someone. Again, just staring at one guy. And then he doesn't have the athleticism to escape the pocket and buy time if something isn't there.

Dude is a junior. We are better off taking lumps with Angeli so we at least know if we need to hit the transfer market for QB or can try to build with Angeli next year. If you watch Ian Book film vs Pyne film side by side you will notice that Pyne is simply worse than Book in every way and people said things like "Book is good but not good enough to win a championship." Pyne is literally slower, shorter, smaller, weaker, and less accurate than Book. He doesn't have a single trait that is above a C+ and most are Ds or Fs. It's a lost season so there is no point investing more time in him.

 

[Free Manera]

Let me go see if I can dig them up, but it was basically a tweet thread with:
1. Wide open Lenzy miss
2. Bad throw to Styles (he still should have caught it) on another easy TD
3. Staring down receivers (mostly Mayer) and throwing into double coverage repeatedly. Completely pre-determined where he was going to go with the ball and they just read his eyes the whole way.
4. Having a clean pocket for 3+ seconds and not going through any progressions to find someone. Again, just staring at one guy. And then he doesn't have the athleticism to escape the pocket and buy time if something isn't there.

Dude is a junior. We are better off taking lumps with Angeli so we at least know if we need to hit the transfer market for QB or can try to build with Angeli next year. If you watch Ian Book film vs Pyne film side by side you will notice that Pyne is simply worse than Book in every way and people said things like "Book is good but not good enough to win a championship." Pyne is literally slower, shorter, smaller, weaker, and less accurate than Book. He doesn't have a single trait that is above a C+ and most are Ds or Fs. It's a lost season so there is no point investing more time in him.

Hopefully Rees is gone for next year, but if he isn't, a transfer is an absolute necessity. The next QB Rees develops will be the first one. If Rees stays, ND will need a QB someone else developed. Then we have to pray that Rees's genius offensive mind along with an actual good QB can lead to some wins.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Let me go see if I can dig them up, but it was basically a tweet thread with:
1. Wide open Lenzy miss
2. Bad throw to Styles (he still should have caught it) on another easy TD
3. Staring down receivers (mostly Mayer) and throwing into double coverage repeatedly. Completely pre-determined where he was going to go with the ball and they just read his eyes the whole way.
4. Having a clean pocket for 3+ seconds and not going through any progressions to find someone. Again, just staring at one guy. And then he doesn't have the athleticism to escape the pocket and buy time if something isn't there.

Dude is a junior. We are better off taking lumps with Angeli so we at least know if we need to hit the transfer market for QB or can try to build with Angeli next year. If you watch Ian Book film vs Pyne film side by side you will notice that Pyne is simply worse than Book in every way and people said things like "Book is good but not good enough to win a championship." Pyne is literally slower, shorter, smaller, weaker, and less accurate than Book. He doesn't have a single trait that is above a C+ and most are Ds or Fs. It's a lost season so there is no point investing more time in him.

I’ve seen similar clips. It is bad. So it’s looking like an open QB competition going into Spring. Angeli, Buchner, Pyne & hopefully a transfer. If no transfer, then it’s going to be similar to this year breaking in an inexperienced QB. Plus, the OL loses Patterson & Mayer & the WR corps still sucks.

 

[Ray “The Mule” Finkle]

What are everyone’s thoughts on Phil Longo? What could he do for CJ Carr’s future and how would he change the offense?

 

[Irishdrunk]

Why would you hire hartline? 2nd year head coach and a first time OC. That’s sounds like a really bad ideal no matter how good he recruits.

Well I agree w you but that is already the issue w hiring Freeman.

Hartline is the best recruiter of offensive playmakers / receivers in CFB. He will be gone next year. Unlike Tommy, he has proven his recruiting chops.

 

[NDMatt91]

Hopefully Rees is gone for next year, but if he isn't, a transfer is an absolute necessity. The next QB Rees develops will be the first one. If Rees stays, ND will need a QB someone else developed. Then we have to pray that Rees's genius offensive mind along with an actual good QB can lead to some wins.

We need a grad transfer QB even if Tommy boy is still here. Unfortunately, I don't think Pyne is going to cut it no matter who the OC is. We need to hit the portal and bring in a good grad transfer WR as well, IMO.

 

[Ray “The Mule” Finkle]

Well I agree w you but that is already the issue w hiring Freeman.

Hartline is the best recruiter of offensive playmakers / receivers in CFB. He will be gone next year. Unlike Tommy, he has proven his recruiting chops.

Hartline would juice up recruiting. That's his schtick. Personally, I'd rather have a proven college OC. Let Freeman recruit (he doesn't do anything else anyways). I'm tired of hiring recruiters that can't coach.

If Hartline kept CJ happy and was a big enough hire to convince guys like Wingo to sign, I wouldn't be super disappointed. However, I'd still take the proven coach as he could probably still keep CJ and the class in tact and recruit as well just based on reputation.

 

[NDMatt91]

Hartline would juice up recruiting. That's his schtick. Personally, I'd rather have a proven college OC. Let Freeman recruit (he doesn't do anything else anyways). I'm tired of hiring recruiters that can't coach.

Also, Chansi has proven he can more than hold his own in recruiting quality WR's.

 

[anarin]

Hartline would juice up recruiting. That's his schtick. Personally, I'd rather have a proven college OC. Let Freeman recruit (he doesn't do anything else anyways). I'm tired of hiring recruiters that can't coach.

We get it, you want Freeman and Rees fired. I picked up on it after your 15th message saying so.

 

[Ray “The Mule” Finkle]

Ohio State coach reportedly not interested in Notre Dame job

A source "with direct knowledge" told Rivals that Ohio State wide receivers coach Brian Hartline would take a job with Notre Dame.

thecomeback.com

Can't blame the guy. He probably knows better than most how in over his head Freeman is. He knows the captain is taking the ship down and all the crew with him.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I think firing your head coach after six games in a season is the Italian soccer vibe we probably deserve but really should not wish for.

That's just one guy's opinion, though.

 

[stlnd01]

Hopefully Rees is gone for next year, but if he isn't, a transfer is an absolute necessity. The next QB Rees develops will be the first one. If Rees stays, ND will need a QB someone else developed. Then we have to pray that Rees's genius offensive mind along with an actual good QB can lead to some wins.

Ian Book?
Regardless, tools-wise, Pyne is a poor man’s Ian Book and probably would/should not start on any team in the Power Five. Buchner has potential for sure but feels hard to rely on at this point. A transfer is a necessity regardless of who our OC is next year.

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

I think firing your head coach after six games in a season is the Italian soccer vibe we probably deserve but really should not wish for.

That's just one guy's opinion, though.

I see no way we fire him after one season. If we lose to UNLV we may see the drumbeat so loud that it sinks him for the following season but he will get 2- 3 years. We need to club UNLV.

 

[IrishLion]

He has a recruiting violations list at each one of his stops as long as my...... well lets just says it long. Very long.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Rees gets fired today, who is calling plays on Saturday?

Curious what the hypothetical plan is. Shove Tom Herman through ND HR? Have fun.