The Heisman Watch 2011

[ndyeater]

Well let the heisman trophy discussion officially begin.The favorites have been revealed today!!

Here is the list for the beginning of the Heisman race


1.Andrew Luck QB(Stanford)-68
2.Landry Jones QB(Oklahoma)-42
3.LaMichael James RB(Oregon)-33
4.Trent Richardson RB(Alabama)-31
5.Kellen Moore QB(Boise State)-24
6.Marcus Lattimore RB(South Carolina)-14
7.Justin Blackmon WR(Oklahoma State)-6
8.Tyler Wilson QB(Arkansas)-2
9.Case Keenum QB(Houston)-2
10.Denard Robinson(Michigan)-2
11.Knile Davis RB(Arkansas)-1

 

[anarin]

My vote goes to Forcier.

 

[Rack Em]

What about Terrelle Pry....oh wait.

 

[IrishAlum1997]

(Not-so) controversial thought for the day: A Notre Dame QB will be on that list in 2012.

 

[RyCo1983]

What about Terrelle Pry....oh wait.

That avatar is AMAZING by the way.


No shockers on that watch list.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

No Bruce Heggie? This is an OUTRAGE!

 

[Buster Bluth]

Where's Manti?!

 

[ndyeater]

I think Dayne is gonna have a standout year and willl make the list at least for one week this season

 

[NDinFL]

In my humble opinion: I think it's somewhat foolish to put Denard on this list...

I know, I know he put up "video game numbers last season", but that was in a totally different offense with a totally different coach.

If he is forced into more of a "pure QB" role, rather than relying on his legs... Michigan's Offense could be in trouble

 

[BGIF]

What about Terrelle Pry....oh wait.

He's in the running for the Bush/Newton Collegiate Pro Athlete of The Year.

 

[BGIF]

In my humble opinion: I think it's somewhat foolish to put Denard on this list...

I know, I know he put up "video game numbers last season", but that was in a totally different offense with a totally different coach.

If he is forced into more of a "pure QB" role, rather than relying on his legs... Michigan's Offense could be in trouble

Funny I recall a lot of people making similar comments here last year, right up to kickoff.

Preseason lists are based upon last season.


But considering how foolish he made Diaco and the Irish D last year, it would be foolish to omit him until they SHOW they can stop him.

 

[BleedBlue&Gold]

Lattimore is a stud.

 

[NDinFL]

Funny I recall a lot of people making similar comments here last year, right up to kickoff.

Preseason lists are based upon last season.


But considering how foolish he made Diaco and the Irish D last year, it would be foolish to omit him until they SHOW they can stop him.

I agree, in part...

I didn't mean for it to come across as disrespectful...

1. Last year was the d's first year in Diaco's scheme, growing pains and a learning curve were to be expected.

2. Hoke runs a different style offense. Denard is a tremendous athlete, but as a "pure passer" I just don't see it. Who knows how Hoke will use Denard..

3. I know that it's based off of last year, but in this scenario I think that it doesn't (or shouldn't, rather) apply... Too many changes in Michigan

just my 2 cents

 

[irishtrain]

Where's Manti?!

Agree-been saying all along-not out of the question if this team turns it out. Character/talent/leader/performance/Notre Dame name/let him push a few in the end zone. The country may be ready for a defensive guy.

 

[Blaise]

If Crist starts hot, and ND win their first 4 games... he will pop up on that list... he won't be top five, but he will be someone to look at

 

[IrishSteelhead]

I hate how the Heisman is more of an "MVP" award these days, and many undeserving players (mostly system QBs) get it.

 

[BGIF]

Well let the heisman trophy discussion officially begin.The favorites have been revealed today!!

Here is the list for the beginning of the Heisman race

1.Andrew Luck QB(Stanford)-68
2.Landry Jones QB(Oklahoma)-42
3.LaMichael James RB(Oregon)-33
4.Trent Richardson RB(Alabama)-31
5.Kellen Moore QB(Boise State)-24
6.Marcus Lattimore RB(South Carolina)-14
7.Justin Blackmon WR(Oklahoma State)-6
8.Tyler Wilson QB(Arkansas)-2
9.Case Keenum QB(Houston)-2
10.Denard Robinson(Michigan)-2
11.Knile Davis RB(Arkansas)-1

Scratch #11.

Arkansas RB Knile Davis out for the season - CBSSports.com

 

[RyCo1983]

Scratch #11.

Arkansas RB Knile Davis out for the season - CBSSports.com

Let's swap him out with one Dayne Crist or Michael Floyd

 

[Junkhead]

No Bruce Heggie? This is an OUTRAGE!

Oh no you didn't.

 

[Riddickulous]

Let's swap him out with one Dayne Crist or Michael Floyd

No, no, no.

Wide receivers rarely get invited to the Heisman ceremony. Here's some examples:

2007, Michael Crabtree: 1962 yards, 22 TDs - No invite
2008, Dez Bryant: 1480 yards, 19 TDs; 2 punt return TDs - No invite
2009, Golden Tate: 1496 yards, 15 TDs; 2 rushing TDs; punt return TD - No invite
2010, Justin Blackmon: 1782 yards, 20 TDs - No invite

None of these players were even invited to the Heisman ceremony.

Michael Floyd's numbers will not touch any of the players listed. Last year we were all predicting monster numbers (except me) and he barely scraped 1,000 yards. And now we have an uncertain QB battle and expect leaps in production from Riddick, Eifert, and Jones. How is he gonna put up Heisman numbers to even be considered?



And Dayne Crist? He might not even start.

We have no Heisman Trophy candidates. Case closed.



My prediction is Landry Jones. Monster numbers, winning his conference and leading the Sooners to the national title (Yeah, I said it) = Heisman.

 

[notredomer23]

And Dayne Crist? He might not even start.

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False. Unless he gets hurt in camp he is the starter.

 

[Riddickulous]

False. Unless he gets hurt in camp he is the starter.

No, he isn't. Kelly said today that the QB race is still "too close to call".

 

[notredomer23]

No, he isn't. Kelly said today that the QB race is still "too close to call".

He also said prior to that how Crist has been taking the majority of the first team reps. I'm not saying I don't believe Kelly, but I think he definitely feels more comfortable with Dayne running the offense, mainly because Crist is better with the up tempo which Kelly is more accustomed to. I will be fine with whoever starts because I like them both, but I'd be willing to bet all I have(which isn't much, sorry haha) that Crist is our starter.

 

[tommyIRISH23]

LOL Dayne Crist for the Heisman? He has done nothing close to be even considered.

Riddick is right, he may not even start week 1 (probably will) but who knows how long that will last, lets see if he can play a season, and put up numbers of a good QB, let alone a Heisman QB.

I think Riddick has the athleticism/potential to put up heisman numbers as a Percy Harvin type player if he gets the touches

 

[Whiskeyjack]

I think Riddick has the athleticism/potential to put up heisman numbers as a Percy Harvin type player if he gets the touches

You scoff at the idea that Crist could be considered for the Heisman, but then offer Riddick? Dayne's numbers were much closer to Heisman levels in 2010 than Theo's.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

We don't have a Heisman contender. We are a defensive team without a star QB or RB.

 

[military_irish]

I say put Koyack in the discussion because I heard he might have some potential.

 

[BeauBenken]

It's not like the Heisman trophy actually goes to the best player in the country...

 

[Riddickulous]

We don't have a Heisman contender. We are a defensive team without a star QB or RB.

Exactly.