Sushi

[Henges24]

So the girlfriend and I have been on a sushi binge the past two/three months and we decided to make our own. We went with a few easy rolls (avocado, cream cheese, imitation crab) for our first time and it was pretty good.

Anyways...I wanted to add salmon instead of the crab to our second time around and I bought fresh Atlantic Salmon at the local Meijer. Obviously, all fish, especially salmon, has possible parasites/bugs/etc in the meat. So does anyone know the best way to kill possible parasites in salmon without cooking it? I have it in the freezer right now, but how long should I wait? Days? Weeks?

Thanks


Edit: I've searched Google for answers but I keep getting mixed reviews about how you shouldn't eat raw fish, blah blah blah. And no one really said how long you should freeze it for.

 

[ACamp1900]

Be interested where this goes, I love sushi but have never made it myself.. so I'm little help with the OP question.

 

[GBdomer]

I will never understand how people eat that shit.

 

[ACamp1900]

I will never understand how people eat that shit.

With their mouths...

 

[wizards8507]

I wouldn't mess with it.

 

[GoIrish41]

Found this on Google us "How to prepare fish for sushi"

Keep fish at about 0°C because the protein fibers are shorter than in meat, making it easier for microorganisms to propagate. Carefully remove all of the scales and inner organs. Cleaning the fish properly is even more important than true freshness. When cutting and cleaning the fish, keep your knives, the knife handles, the cutting board and your hands as clean as possible.
Seafood suitable for sushi can be prepared in three ways:
·raw
·sprinkled with salt and/or allowed to sit in vinegar for a while
·cooked by simmering or grilling.
Here are some examples of seafood eaten raw: tuna, sea bream, prawn, squid, sea bass, young yellowtail, and flatfish (flounder). Fish with shiny, bluish backs may cause an unpleasant or allergic reaction, so if you want to serve them, place them in salt first for a while to inhibit bacterial action.
Again: your hands touch the raw fish at every step until the sushi reaches the table, so cleanliness is absolutely essential, even more than for sashimi. This is true not only for your hands but for the entire kitchen as well. Cleanliness is the law for the sushi chef. After all, the food we eat must be safe to eat.
I hope people all over the world will come to truly appreciate the fine flavor of Japanese cuisine, especially the wealth of knowledge found in our many fish recipes. And I certainly hope readers will experience the profound enjoyment that comes from eating fish in its natural state

Not sure if this helps much.

 

[ACamp1900]

Seared Ahi is one of my absolute fav meals...

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

As far as I know you shouldn't use just any fish that you buy at the grocery store. What makes fish safe to eat raw is proper freezing that kills the parasites in the fish. There is some debate about whether "sushi grade" or "sashimi grade" fish are just marketing ploys but my understanding is that if you buy sushi grade fish you can rest easy that you won't get sick. You could always ask your fishmonger if he or she knows how the fish was frozen and if it is safe to consume raw.

 

[ACamp1900]

Store bought is fish a whole other game to me... the flavor never matches your good Sushi or Steak houses... It's not like chicken or steak where you can mask the inferior cuts with cooking methods...

 

[wizards8507]

As far as I know you shouldn't use just any fish that you buy at the grocery store. What makes fish safe to eat raw is proper freezing that kills the parasites in the fish. There is some debate about whether "sushi grade" or "sashimi grade" fish are just marketing ploys but my understanding is that if you buy sushi grade fish you can rest easy that you won't get sick. You could always ask you fishmonger if he or she knows how the fish was frozen and if it is safe to consume raw.

I've read the same thing you did about proper freezing but it doesn't make sense to me. If freezing kills parasites, wouldn't you be all good to take eat spoonful of raw chicken or ground beef after it's been frozen? It just doesn't seem right...

I also question the fish guy at the Meijer in Mount Pleasant, Michigan as a reliable source of knowledge about these matters.

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

I've read the same thing you did about proper freezing but it doesn't make sense to me. If freezing kills parasites, wouldn't you be all good to take eat spoonful of raw chicken or ground beef after it's been frozen? It just doesn't seem right...

I also question the fish guy at the Meijer in Mount Pleasant, Michigan as a reliable source of knowledge about these matters.

I think the freezing has more to do with its initial freezing after it's caught and not subsequent freezes. It's safe for butchers to have their "butcher's snack" as they are breaking down an animal. What isn't safe is when the meat has been exposed and bacteria and other things have an opportunity to thrive. Ground beef is an extreme example of this because there is so much surface area. Btw, raw beef is safe to eat if it has been properly handled, see beef tartare.

I also wouldn't call the guy at Meijer a fishmonger. If you go to a market or even Whole Foods I'm sure they have a lot more knowledge about where their fish come from and how they were caught, cleaned, and frozen.

 

[Henges24]

I've read the same thing you did about proper freezing but it doesn't make sense to me. If freezing kills parasites, wouldn't you be all good to take eat spoonful of raw chicken or ground beef after it's been frozen? It just doesn't seem right...

I also question the fish guy at the Meijer in Mount Pleasant, Michigan as a reliable source of knowledge about these matters.

I ended up calling today (I bought it yesterday and put in fridge) and he said if I freeze it I should be good cause that is what he does. He said it wasn't sushi grade. He didn't say how long to keep it in there but I plan on leaving it in the freezer over the weekend. I came here cause of the mixed reviews I was getting on the web.

 

[irishog77]

I'm disappointed. This thread had all the makings of a "Question About a Girl" type thread...but fizzled.

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

If you're ever in the area and want sushi Soho in Granger is solid and they have good and long beer list


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[woolybug25]

I'm disappointed. This thread had all the makings of a "Question About a Girl" type thread...but fizzled.

but they both smell of fish, heh.

 

[GATTACA!]

Iv'e never been a sushi guy, but i love a good documentaries. All you sushi heads should check out "Jiro Dreams of Sushi" absolutely fascinating. One of the best docs ive ever seen.

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The tiny sushi bar is in a subway tunnel in Tokyo. People make reservations a year in advance. His dedication and love of the craft are so inspiring.

 

[Zwidmanio]

I'm not sure if I'd try eating raw salmon from your regular grocery down the street. If you're serious about making yourself some good sushi/sashimi, I'd try ordering some fish online. You can get some top quality fish delivered right to your doorstep. I can't recall the name of the place off the top of my head, but maybe Google "Catalina." I haven't personally done it, but I know my uncle and cousins order from some place regularly and are always happy with it.

 

[Cackalacky]

1st there are no requirements for prepping fish to be ingested raw. The best way to kill parasites is subzero freezing for 7-15 days. Farm raised is typically better than wild as they tend to lack worms. Bacteria can and will be present no matter what unless you cook it. You take your chances there and hope that you have a strong and diverse digestive tract flauna. Typically, I will soak the frozen meat in a diluted vinegar solution until it is thawed, cut and roll immediately and then eat it.

Make it clean, make it quick.
What is sushi grade fish and Where Do I Buy It?

 

[Cackalacky]

Btw I am a sashimi guy more than sushi but I do love some sushi.

 

[ACamp1900]

Btw I am a sashimi guy more than sushi but I do love some sushi.

I know they are technically different... but when I say or hear "Sushi" my thought/intent goes to both in one.

 

[Henges24]

Btw I am a sashimi guy more than sushi but I do love some sushi.

Thanks for the help. I'm pretty sure what I might end up doing is leaving the salmon in the freezer over the weekend. Take it out and soak it in vinegar as you stated above until it's thawed. Then I'm going to throw it in the oven for approx. 5 minutes.

 

[Cackalacky]

I know they are technically different... but when I say or hear "Sushi" my thought/intent goes to both in one.

Sashimi is straight up raw slices maybe served on rice. Sushi is rolled in seaweed with other ingredients.

 

[Cackalacky]

Thanks for the help. I'm pretty sure what I might end up doing is leaving the salmon in the freezer over the weekend. Take it out and soak it in vinegar as you stated above until it's thawed. Then I'm going to throw it in the oven for approx. 5 minutes.

Freshwater fish are not recommended. Oceanic fish lack most of the major parasitic issues. If you cook the salmon it should be good.

 

[ACamp1900]

Sashimi is straight up raw slices maybe served on rice. Sushi is rolled in seaweed with other ingredients.

ha, yes, I know... I prefer Sashimi myself also... I was just pointing out that the term 'Sushi' is often used to cover both..

sidenote, I'll take soy wrap with my rolls please... seaweed is nasty imo.

half Soy Sauce, half Siracha to dip with...

 

[Cackalacky]

ha, yes, I know... I prefer Sashimi myself also... I was just pointing out that the term 'Sushi' is often used to cover both..

sidenote, I'll take soy wrap with my rolls please... seaweed is nasty imo.

half soy, half Siarcha to dip with...

They are two separate dishes. Get it right man.

 

[ACamp1900]

They are two separate dishes. Get it right man.

I've never been to a Sashimi House....

 

[dshans]

Lotsa wasabi.

 

[Cackalacky]

I've never been to a Sashimi House....

Is an IPA a lager? Is a demiglace a boulliabase?

 

[ACamp1900]

Is an IPA a lager?

They are both beers... I wouldn't say, 'lets' go get IPAs'... or ... "I'm in the mood for Sashimi"... I'd say, "Hey, let's go get Sushi, and while we are there, maybe we'll have some beers..."

you overly specific bastard.

 

[Cackalacky]

They are both beers... I wouldn't say, 'lets' go get IPAs'... or ... "I'm in the mood for Sashimi"... I'd say, "Hey, let's go get Sushi, and while we are there, maybe we'll have some beers..."

you overly specific bastard.

But gastronomically, in both cases, you know what I am talking about.