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I disagree. LSU finished the regular season ahead of Alabama, and Alabama was clearly the best team in the country by the time the championship game was played.

I should've been more clear...
I'm of the opinion that a "true national champion" isn't necessarily the "best team in the nation". Happens all the time in the pros, just like the 18-0 Patriots were clearly the better team than the giants that year, but the Giants still took the championship.
 

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I should've been more clear...
I'm of the opinion that a "true national champion" isn't necessarily the "best team in the nation". Happens all the time in the pros, just like the 18-0 Patriots were clearly the better team than the giants that year, but the Giants still took the championship.

This is where I have issue with playoff systems. We hold the much smaller sample in higher regard than the much larger one... I just don't get it...

If we all want 'real champions' then just expand each regular season and have the best record at the end of it raise the trophy, that would give us the largest sample and the most legit argument. If and only if there is a legit tie to that title, THEN and only then you play it off the way we used to do to decide pennants in baseball for example. The want for legitamacy has nothing to do with any of this if we are all honest with ourselves... though I have found some refuse to see the forest through the trees and just insist that silly one and done crap shoots somehow>>> regular season results when it comes to deciding who the best teams are.
 
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ESPN, FOX Advising Big 12 on Expansion, Adding Notre Dame : Outkick The Coverage

Big 12 interim commissioner Chuck Neinas: Notre Dame the only school that would add TV value | NewsOK.com

If Notre Dame would become a partial member, how would that impact the current membership and what does it do to further expansion?
Neinas' response: “Both representatives of ESPN/ABC and Fox Sports indicated that Notre Dame's involvement with the Big 12 Conference would increase the value of the conference relative to future television and also improve the image of the conference nationwide.”

What value would a new member bring to the conference?
Neinas' response:
“Our television partners agreed that the only new member that would enhance the Big 12 value for television was Notre Dame.”
 

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ND may change its Olympic sports to the BIG 12, but Notre Dame has no reason to give up its independence in football. NBC is reportedly offer them a huge contract, nothing for ND to gain by joining the BIG 12 in football.
 
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ND may change its Olympic sports to the BIG 12, but Notre Dame has no reason to give up its independence in football. NBC is reportedly offer them a huge contract, nothing for ND to gain by joining the BIG 12 in football.

Right. Nobody said anything about it helping ND. It helps the B12. Why would ND need to do something that doesn't benefit ND? That'd be dumb. They already can make up their schedule, travel anywhere, own TV deal, etc.
 

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Regarding Notre Dame's position in the playoffs.

Two days after Jack Swarbrick helped orchestrate a four-team playoff for college football, the Notre Dame athletic director sat down with his department's website for a 19-minute interview. When it was suggested during the interview that a selection committee would benefit the Irish, Swarbrick agreed.

"Yeah. I do, too," he said. "It's a little complicated because you have the bowls with tie-ins. So the Rose Bowl and Champions Bowl, and likely the Orange Bowl, will sort of be set. It will be the three other bowls which will be impacted by the ranking of the selection committee. But I think it's an important thing to do.

"It's gonna change I think the way people think about teams and their performance. Because the first time the selection committee reveals its standings, which we anticipate being in the middle of the season, I think you'll see significant differences between the polls that exist at that time. And it's gonna cause a good debate, a healthy debate about, OK, what are these guys looking at that the pollsters aren't?"

Who "these guys" will be is the million-dollar question. Be it former coaches, current athletic directors or conference commissioners, the postseason fate of as many as a dozen schools will be in this group's hands.

More factors -- particularly strength of schedule, an area in which Notre Dame never fails to impress -- will be considered than just the loss column. And with conference tie-ins likely being limited to three major bowls, a good-enough Notre Dame team will be coveted by many bowl executives whose options were previously limited.

Look no further than Fiesta Bowl executive director Robert Shelton's comments to the Chicago Tribune this week.
"We think the semi is going to be an exceptionally exciting game, no matter who's in it," Fiesta Bowl executive director Robert Shelton said. "We think in the other two years it's going to give us a chance at teams that maybe we wouldn't have been able to get here in the past or haven't had in a while, teams like Notre Dame.

"We're not going around cutting any deals, but as I've mentioned to Jack ... with a certain number of wins we'd take Notre Dame in a heartbeat."


Of course, being good enough is the first and only step to being in that position. Once there, though, the upper tier's newfound fluidity will only benefit an attraction as big as Notre Dame.

120629 selection committee - College Football Nation Blog - ESPN
 

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i wish college football would not put out rankings until halfway through the season. now with a new selection committee - preseason rankings will be less profitable media stories.

at least i hope.

also - super conferences are dead. losers of conf. championship games can still get in, winning 1 serves no benefit.
 
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i wish college football would not put out rankings until halfway through the season. now with a new selection committee - preseason rankings will be less profitable media stories.

at least i hope.

also - super conferences are dead. losers of conf. championship games can still get in, winning 1 serves no benefit.

I agree, but then ESPN couldn't market Week 3 games as "The number 1 team in the country takes on the number 3 team!" Also casual fans would have no idea who is good or not.
 

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Swarbrick not only successfully navigates the college football landscape on our behalf but he was the one out front as the defacto speksperson for all this. GREAT JOB JACK.
can anyone imagine Kevin White dealing with all this? (he would have probably jumped into a conference already). Jack is one cool customer and we should all be grateful he is leading us thru this major transition in college football.
 

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Swarbrick not only successfully navigates the college football landscape on our behalf but he was the one out front as the defacto speksperson for all this. GREAT JOB JACK.
can anyone imagine Kevin White dealing with all this? (he would have probably jumped into a conference already). Jack is one cool customer and we should all be grateful he is leading us thru this major transition in college football.
I hope we can keep Jack for a long time-put him in the Moose Krause catagory and that aint bad. Great job Jack-now win some football games!
 

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Reports of a meeting between the ACC and Notre Dame on the Clemson Rivals site.

No specifics given in the article
 

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Bringing it back from the dead!

Realignment scoop


"Informed sources tell us that North Carolina and Virginia could be headed to the Big Ten and that NC State and Virginia Tech could leave for the SEC"
 
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depends on what Clemson and FSU do. They have SEC written all over them

They won't add SEC teams in states that already have SEC teams. Allegedly Georgia, Florida, and South Carolina have a gentlemen's agreement to block any additions in their states so no Georgia Tech, Florida State, or Clemson.

I'd say Louisville, Cincinnati, Florida State, and Clemson would end up in the Big 12 if everything came crashing down. I honestly can't imagine the ACC losing anymore though.
 

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They won't add SEC teams in states that already have SEC teams. Allegedly Georgia, Florida, and South Carolina have a gentlemen's agreement to block any additions in their states so no Georgia Tech, Florida State, or Clemson.
I'd say Louisville, Cincinnati, Florida State, and Clemson would end up in the Big 12 if everything came crashing down. I honestly can't imagine the ACC losing anymore though.

Thats intresting i didn't know that.
 

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This could be the beginning of the end of our independence
Well it depends. If we can get a set up like we have (had??) with the ACC with the B1G or the Big 12 we can salvage it.

An undefeated season and playing for the NCG couldn't have come at a better time by the way. This will only strengthen our hand in future negotiations.
 

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They won't add SEC teams in states that already have SEC teams. Allegedly Georgia, Florida, and South Carolina have a gentlemen's agreement to block any additions in their states so no Georgia Tech, Florida State, or Clemson.

I'd say Louisville, Cincinnati, Florida State, and Clemson would end up in the Big 12 if everything came crashing down. I honestly can't imagine the ACC losing anymore though.

it has more to do with tv markets than the " gentlemen's agreement"
 

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Doubt it they would have no reason to give you a deal.

Yea, I can think of millions of reasons.$$$$. The Big 12 is looking for stability anywhere they can get it. If they were able to nab ND for 5 games a year and at least 2 big name ACC teams, that would give them a national TV market and dig into the SEC's TV market.
 

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Yea, I can think of millions of reasons.$$$$. The Big 12 is looking for stability anywhere they can get it. If they were able to nab ND for 5 games a year and at least 2 big name ACC teams, that would give them a national TV market and dig into the SEC's TV market.

For some reason I read BIG10 instead of BIG12 when I made that comment. That being said the BIG12 is stable. Still not sure if the BIG12 will add any teams since they dont have their own network.
 
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