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Coach Hot Seat Ratings - CBSSports.com - Dennis Dodd

Dennis Dodd's Grading
0 Untouchable
1 Very safe, change unlikely
2 Safe... but you never know
3 Starting to feel the pressure
4 Warm, better start winning
5 Hot seat! Win or be fired


Two coaches drew a 5, the worse score, "Win or Be Fired", Illinois' Tim Beckman and UVA's Mike London. Beckman has had a winning year in his 3 seasons at UI but he's getting close at 6-7, trending upward. London's had one winning season - 3 years ago. Both might have been gone last season but for late season wins ... one each, Beckman over PSU and London over Miami.

Seven coaches got a 4, "Warm, better start winning, like Beckman and London they coach at school's that usually dwell in the subbasements, Ron Turner, FIU, Trent Miles, GSU, Norm Chow UHI, Paul Petrino, UID, Paul Rhoades, ISU, and Paul Haynes, Kent St.


Charlie Strong, UTX, drew a 3, "Starting to feel the pressure". He drew the lowest score of the major programs but he's only entering his 2nd year. Dodd usually gives the new or relatively new coaches a secure grade.

I've got to think it's Warm for Al Golden, at da U. Mike London saved his job with a late season win over Miami. What did that say about Golden? It's year #5 at Miami.

Dana Holgerson's averaging 7-6 through 4 season at WVU. Doesn't strike me as Safe.

Brian Kelly is "Safe" at ND averaging 9-4 yearly, 0.692. Good for Monk's Decades of Doom but he needs to average 10-3 to get in Holtz's Territory, and average 11-2 to walk with Rock, Leahy, and Ara.

Bob Davie also drew a 2 from Dodd, "Safe" although he's averaged less than 4 wins a season at UNM. Whole different expectation level.


ND's Opponent Coaches Grades
UTX Strong 3 (Starting to feel the pressure)
UVA London 5 (Hot seat! Win or be fired)
GT Johnson 1 (1 Very safe, change unlikely)
UMA Whipple 2 (Safe... but you never know)
CL Swinney 0 (0 Untouchable)
NAV Niumatalolo 0
USC Sarkisian 1
TEM Ruhle 2
PIT Narduzzi 1
WF Clawson 3
BC Addazio 2
SU Shaw 0

Only one opponent coach on the block, London UVA.

Three opponent coaches, "Untouchable", Swinney CL, Niumatalolo NAV, and Shaw SU.
 

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I'm surprised Shaw is untouchable. I certainly don't think he's higher than a 1 or a 2, but Stanford certainly seemed to take a step back last season. The last of Harbaugh's players have moved on and it's all Shaw now. They struggled last season, and unfortunately we wound up in another tight game with them despite the fact they also ended with an 8-5 schedule. Other than an upset against UCLA, Stanford really didn't impress in any of their games last season. They lost to all their other ranked opponents. I don't expect him to get the boot as a result of that, but I'd wager he's closer to a 1 or a 1.5 right now as alumni will start watching him closer and deciding if they can keep the Harbaugh magic going.
 

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I'm surprised Shaw is untouchable. I certainly don't think he's higher than a 1 or a 2, but Stanford certainly seemed to take a step back last season. The last of Harbaugh's players have moved on and it's all Shaw now. They struggled last season, and unfortunately we wound up in another tight game with them despite the fact they also ended with an 8-5 schedule. Other than an upset against UCLA, Stanford really didn't impress in any of their games last season. They lost to all their other ranked opponents. I don't expect him to get the boot as a result of that, but I'd wager he's closer to a 1 or a 1.5 right now as alumni will start watching him closer and deciding if they can keep the Harbaugh magic going.

That's Dodd's grading. I'm sure fans at a lot of schools differ with his grading.


Shaw has the second best record of any football coach at SU that's coached at least 20 games going back over 100 years. He trails only Pop Warner and that by less than 0.004 percentage points.

Yes, he had a 5 loss season last year after averaging 2 losses a season. Harbaugh by comparison only had one season where he didn't lose 5 games while at SU.

Yes, there was a franchise QB involved but what most people tend to forget is Shaw was Harbaugh's OC. When Harbaugh left the offense stayed the same. Shaw had luck but probably more significantly Luck had Shaw to ease the coaching transition.

Despite the loss of Harbaugh's draw with recruits Shaw has done well. He has SU in Top 20 classes (rivals) except for one year ('12?) when they only took about a dozen in the class.

As for SU alumni watching the coach more closely, do they sell out the stadium yet?
 

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In those 5 loses last year, SU lost to USC, ND, and Utah eadch by 3 pts.

ASU beat SU by 2 TDs and ORE took'em to the woodshed, a 4TD loss.

Shaw's defense only gave up 213 pts on the season with ASU and ORE scoring 71 of those points.

His offense last year scored about 100 fewer points than the year before but also allowed about 50 fewer points.
 

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They certainly were in some close games. I don't think they should have lost to Utah though. Utah isn't a terrible team at all, but I thought Stanford was tougher. This should be an interesting year for the Cardinal. If they take a step back again, maybe they're returning to mediocrity? Maybe they smash Oregon in the mouth again, but they could also drop a game against Washington. They've got UCLA again, Arizona, us, and of course USC. They very well could wind up with 5 losses again.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Breaking news: FootballScoop has learned that Illinois has fired Tim Beckman <a href="http://t.co/9L3QTETngN">http://t.co/9L3QTETngN</a></p>— FootballScoop Staff (@FootballScoop) <a href="https://twitter.com/FootballScoop/status/637328101022679040">August 28, 2015</a></blockquote>
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I'm fine with Illinois never making any traction in football. We don't need an Illinois recruiting battle with how many we already have.
 

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Wow. He must have screwed up big time to be fired just a week before the start of the season.
 
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Wow. He must have screwed up big time to be fired just a week before the start of the season.

Coming out that he deferred injury reporting and pushed players to continue to play that had injuries and to put off medical treatment.
 

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I'm fine with Illinois never making any traction in football. We don't need an Illinois recruiting battle with how many we already have.

Illinois is not really a football power. To be honest, the vast majority of their fans would rather see their football team wallow in nothingness forever if it means the basketball program took off again like it did with Self.
 

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Report: Maryland to fire coach Randy Edsall as soon as this week - CBSSports.com

By Tom Fornelli
October 8, 2015 11:14 am ET

Maryland's game against Ohio State on Saturday could be the last of the Randy Edsall Era in College Park.

According to a report from InsideMDSports, Edsall is "unlikely to survive as Maryland's football coach" through the weekend, barring an unexpected change of heart by the administration. With Maryland having a bye next week, it would be the most opportune time for the Terps to make such a move if they plan on doing so during the season.

The report also states that, while the athletic department is certainly unhappy with the results on the field, another factor in the decision is that the players have "begun tuning him out."

A source told the site that Edsall, who actually received a three-year contract extension in June for the purposes of program stability, "doesn't have too many fans left in the locker room."

In his fifth season at Maryland, Edsall is 22-33 with the Terrapins after a 2-3 start to the 2015 campaign. That overall record includes a 10-23 mark in conference play (6-18 in the ACC, 4-5 in the Big Ten).

If Maryland fires Edsall, it's unknown who will serve as an interim head coach, but offensive coordinator Mike Locksley does have prior head coaching experience.
 

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Friedgen was the only UM coach with a winning record in the last 30 years.
 

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UnderArmour says to Chip Kelly at the end of the year when he gets canned, "Here is a brinks truck, but we pay in Gold Bars, where would you like it?"
 

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UnderArmour says to Chip Kelly at the end of the year when he gets canned, "Here is a brinks truck, but we pay in Gold Bars, where would you like it?"

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I think Charlie Strong is gone as soon as the "right" candidate is within reach.

Longhorn fans feel entitled to the best and nothing less, but will strike when the opportunity arrives.

Why on earth would a talented kid in Texas go to Austin over A&M/BU/TCU if he wanted to stay in state? This dismal situation won't get better soon.

My guess is Chip Kelly gets canned in Philly in a year and then exchanges his green for burnt orange. They'll pay him....

You can watch it unfold for a low rate on the Longhorn Network....


What about Butch Davis? Golden?

Ohh and I think Shaw is without question untouchable at Stanford. He's the perfect fit for that job and a great coach.
 

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I think Beamer is done after this year.

Spurrier can't be far behind. I doubt SC ever fires him though.
 

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I think Charlie Strong is gone as soon as the "right" candidate is within reach.

Longhorn fans feel entitled to the best and nothing less, but will strike when the opportunity arrives.

Why on earth would a talented kid in Texas go to Austin over A&M/BU/TCU if he wanted to stay in state? This dismal situation won't get better soon.

My guess is Chip Kelly gets canned in Philly in a year and then exchanges his green for burnt orange. They'll pay him....

You can watch it unfold for a low rate on the Longhorn Network....


What about Butch Davis? Golden?

Ohh and I think Shaw is without question untouchable at Stanford. He's the perfect fit for that job and a great coach.

Shaw is a great coach? You owe me a beer after causing me to spit mine out. That is some funny shit right there.
 

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I think Beamer is done after this year.

Spurrier can't be far behind. I doubt SC ever fires him though.


Spurrier has more wins than any coach in SC history.

He as the highest winningest percentage of any SC coach with more than 2 seasons.

Cocks first 10 win season was in '84 under The Man In Black.

SC waited 27 years for another double digit win season, Spurrier had back to back to back 11-2 seasons in "11-'13

More significantly The Program is under .500 for it's history without Spurrier.


But he has raised the expectation level.
 

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Shaw is a great coach? You owe me a beer after causing me to spit mine out. That is some funny shit right there.

2 Rose Bowl's and a Fiesta Bowl in 4 years. An off bowl in the other.

Finished with a top ten ranking in 3 of the 4.

Doing it at a smart kid school. He is a Stanford guy after all.

He isn't leaving anytime soon.
 

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Spurrier has more wins than any coach in SC history.

But he has raised the expectation level.

I lived in Charleston the year he was hired and remember how excited they were to get him.

He definitely boosted the program. As bad as they are this year, I can't see them firing him ever.
 

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2 Rose Bowl's and a Fiesta Bowl in 4 years. An off bowl in the other.

Finished with a top ten ranking in 3 of the 4.

Doing it at a smart kid school. He is a Stanford guy after all.

He isn't leaving anytime soon.

I agree that he isn't leaving anytime soon, but lets see what he does with his own players before calling him a great coach. His play calling has been absolutely tragic. One of my brothers is a big Stanford fan and he would love to get rid of Shaw.
 

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Shaw is a great coach? You owe me a beer after causing me to spit mine out. That is some funny shit right there.

Shaw's the most successful coach at Stanford since Pop Warner. He has a better record than guys like Walter Camp, Hurry Up Yost, Bill Walsh, Dennis Green, and Harbaugh ... and Tyrone.


Shaw was Harbaugh's OC at both Stanford and San Diego. Part of Harbaugh's success was on Shaw's shoulders.

He's a perfect fit for Stanford. I'd love to see him move on.
 

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Shaw's the most successful coach at Stanford since Pop Warner. He has a better record than guys like Walter Camp, Hurry Up Yost, Bill Walsh, Dennis Green, and Harbaugh ... and Tyrone.


Shaw was Harbaugh's OC at both Stanford and San Diego. Part of Harbaugh's success was on Shaw's shoulders.

He's a perfect fit for Stanford. I'd love to see him move on.

Of course he had a better record than Harbaugh but that is because Harbaugh inherited a dumpster fire. Harbaugh is 10x the Coach that Shaw is. Again, lets see how Shaw does as Harbaugh's players leave the program.

Also to be fair their system was more like ours this year with Harbaugh, Roman (Roman is the person that Harbaugh took with him to SF as his OC) and Shaw all being involved in the play calls (and Harbaugh probably had the biggest input).
 

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Sark record through a season+ is now 12-6 .667.

Kiffin was 28-15 0.651


It's early in the Sarkisian Era but global warning is approaching Sepulveda Blvd.
 

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Sark recruited so god damn well that if they get someone actually competent in there they could be a top 10 team instantly. Kinda like Michigan with hoke.
 

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I think people are over reacting. They are still down numbers and he is playing a ton of true freshmen. Sanctions don't go away overnight and it takes time to build a program from where they were.

Imagine if we were down 30 scholarships and had to right the ship a year out. It is not going to happen.
 

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Spurrier has more wins than any coach in SC history.

He as the highest winningest percentage of any SC coach with more than 2 seasons.

Cocks first 10 win season was in '84 under The Man In Black.

SC waited 27 years for another double digit win season, Spurrier had back to back to back 11-2 seasons in "11-'13

More significantly The Program is under .500 for it's history without Spurrier.


But he has raised the expectation level.



He won't be fired, but the natives here in Columbia are definitely restless.

Last week's loss really got the fans fired up about the direction of USC and Spurrier.

If they win five games or less this year, which is very likely, there will be a lot of noise in Columbia.
 
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