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Probably stated a thousand times at this point but ND played really well today, all the way down to the backups. I was hoping to see Pyne mid way through the 3rd. Not sure what exactly is going on with Book though? Either way we looked like the team we are supposed to look like against an inferior team. Can’t ask for much more. I hope USF does well the rest of the way. They met a championship caliber team today.
 
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Lucky the Leprechaun lodged a formal complaint that ND was guilty of mythical cultural appropriation, so ND had to go out and get a real and proper Leprechaun. Just watch your gold around him if we're ever allowed to attend games.

Fair play. But do you know the real answer, too, though? Lol
 

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Fair play. But do you know the real answer, too, though? Lol

ND runs with a few mascots, maybe 3 or 4. Pretty sure there were 3 last year. You're probably talking about Conal Fagan assuming he's still around from 2019. He's from Derry NI. So not really proper Irish, but a damn Brit!. Samuel Jackson and Lynette Wuhkie (sp?) I believe were the other two from last year. Just not sure if they are still here this year.
 

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ND runs with a few mascots, maybe 3 or 4. Pretty sure there were 3 last year. You're probably talking about Conal Fagan assuming he's still around from 2019. He's from Derry NI. So not really proper Irish, but a damn Brit!. Samuel Jackson and Lynette Wuhkie (sp?) I believe were the other two from last year. Just not sure if they are still here this year.

I believe Samuel Jackson graduated.

Lynette Wukie is actually the "in-game host" (think minor-league baseball - student trivia, dance-offs, etc. during TV timeouts). She does a pretty good job.
 

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I believe Samuel Jackson graduated.

Lynette Wukie is actually the "in-game host" (think minor-league baseball - student trivia, dance-offs, etc. during TV timeouts). She does a pretty good job.

Thanks. Wasn't sure.

Just found this too. Couldn't find anything on the 20-21 season though.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Notre Dame’s 2019 leprechauns are groundbreaking, featuring the first woman and first actual Irish student to appear as the mascot. <br><br>How they and others across college football are changing the face of sideline entertainment:<a href="https://t.co/LzIJINOMwI">https://t.co/LzIJINOMwI</a> <a href="https://t.co/vg51nYS99v">pic.twitter.com/vg51nYS99v</a></p>— Rachel Bachman (@Bachscore) <a href="https://twitter.com/Bachscore/status/1199042200916680709?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 25, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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DJ Brown the weak link? DJ Brown is only starting because Kyle Hamilton is out. Once Kyle returns DJ’s role will be diminished. So yes he is a weak link right now. but couldn’t you say that for any second stringer who is starting In replace for someone else at the safety spot though? The safety spot the DJ is playing is very difficult, it may be the most challenging position on the whole defense. That spot calls out the defense plays and also sets the alignment.


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Well, I saw Brown playing quite a bit last week prior to Hamilton going down. He may be a #2, but he’s getting a lot of playing time and I still think he’s the weak link on the D so far from what I’ve seen. The other backups seem to be playing well. I understand the importance of his position, but it doesn’t excuse poor angles and missed tackles.
 

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Did JOK play today? I was surprised to see his name missing from the defensive stat sheet on the Score site.
 

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Did JOK play today? I was surprised to see his name missing from the defensive stat sheet on the Score site.

Yes he played. He’s just such a badass that USF built their whole game plan on staying as far away from him as possible.
 

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Whens the last time ND broke 50 with zero passing TDs

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They can win every game like they won yesterday!! If the running game keeps up the way it's going, Rees could start to incorporate a 'Triple-Option-type' play here and there and with that would really screw up some defenses. Especially the way our TE's can block.


Wish we would have at least tried to air it out with Book today. Definitely the glaring weakness on the team right now.


Agree to disagree---although I wish Book would have hit McKinnley WIDE FREAKING OPEN in the middle, he can manage the offense and I would be happy. The way the Irish was managing the run game controlled the clock and the O-Line along with great TE blocking and RB patience was fun to watch.
 

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Agree to disagree---although I wish Book would have hit McKinnley WIDE FREAKING OPEN in the middle, he can manage the offense and I would be happy. The way the Irish was managing the run game controlled the clock and the O-Line along with great TE blocking and RB patience was fun to watch.

Yup. And yup (especially the yup on DM). I think Book will be better once some WRs emerge, but overall he just needs to be a short to intermediate game manager type of QB. That doesn't mean we have to run it twice as much as we pass, just simply do what works for Book. Folks expecting him to air it out will continue to be miserable and wonder why he doesn't look like Lawrence. A couple deep shots per game to keep Ds honest with a WR that can get separation is perfectly adequate. Keep in simple, and high % stuff. We have the RBs and TEs to do that. If a #1 WR emerges to take Chase's place a bit later, all the better.
 

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Did JOK play today? I was surprised to see his name missing from the defensive stat sheet on the Score site.


I recall him blowing up a play getting in the backfield. He wasn’t out there a ton though as I recall...... Likely due to the dominant performance. I’m happy with that as I know what he can do. Learning about Kiser, etc was fun
 

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Did Devin Studstill get in today for USF?

He used his last year of eligibility last season w/ USF. You can catch him on the Pod of Gold podcast w/ Eric Hanson & Tyler James from the SBT this past week. They interviewed him about his time at ND, his transfer to USF & his NFL tryout. Still very supportive of ND and really saw how ND is head & shoulders above most programs after spending a season at another FBS school that doesn’t offer what ND does to its student-athletes. He is still enrolled at USF as he finishes his Masters Degree. Also he & his dad run a non-profit in FL
 

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Let's be honest though..... the Irish were 'got' some breaks in this game. USF special teams sucked. A couple(few) of calls the wrong way, pass interference not called.....



The actual final score could have easily been 38-ish to 7-ish Non-recovered fumbles and correct USF special teams plays could have made this a totally different scored game. I'm not trying to be negative 'Nanny' but..... it's truth.



That does not negate the awesome O-Line play, RB production, and Book running the 'O' decently. Not to mention Rees calling good plays and the 'D' playing at a high level.



There is still room for improvement for sure.


Just re-watched the game because I was bored and wanted to give a true, honest opinion.
 

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If ND can build off the versatility of Tommy Tremble, especially blocking for our RB's this could be big for them against the tougher competition on our schedule.

Jack Kiser also had a heck of a game for being 4th on the depth chart.
 

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Let's be honest though..... the Irish were 'got' some breaks in this game. USF special teams sucked. A couple(few) of calls the wrong way, pass interference not called.....



The actual final score could have easily been 38-ish to 7-ish Non-recovered fumbles and correct USF special teams plays could have made this a totally different scored game. I'm not trying to be negative 'Nanny' but..... it's truth.



That does not negate the awesome O-Line play, RB production, and Book running the 'O' decently. Not to mention Rees calling good plays and the 'D' playing at a high level.



There is still room for improvement for sure.


Just re-watched the game because I was bored and wanted to give a true, honest opinion.

Game could have more easily been in the 70's to nothing. Remember we were grinding it out because we could but we also took Book out midway thru the third quarter and Dry Pyne is not ready for prime time. BTW Daelin Hayes seems to be a no show as am impact player. HE might start the game because he is a captain but his play so far will give way to Foskey who looks like we were promised Hayes would look since he was a Freshman.
 

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Game could have more easily been in the 70's to nothing. Remember we were grinding it out because we could but we also took Book out midway thru the third quarter and Dry Pyne is not ready for prime time. BTW Daelin Hayes seems to be a no show as am impact player. HE might start the game because he is a captain but his play so far will give way to Foskey who looks like we were promised Hayes would look since he was a Freshman.

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Gents I don't think we can really glean much from this game. USF was bad, bad, bad. Yes it was good that we didn't them hang around and that we finally hung 50+ on a team in a shutout. Those are good things that show some progression. But I saw this more as us throttling a bad team versus us being dominant from start to finish. There were drives when Kizer was our QB where we'd march down the field in 6 plays with very solid chunk plays where the opposing defense looked like they were reeling.

I just didn't see us pushing the ball downfield. Yes I believe we're a top 10 team, but the ability to push the ball and score at will is what puts a team into the top 5 threshold. We're emphatically not there. We will not keep up with Clemson, Bama, Georgia, OSU, OU right now.

Not trying to take anything away from the progress this team has made since 2010, but it's time to make the next jump. Kelly needs to develop a freaking QB and get us into the top 5 consistently. We've reached the point where we are New Years 6 game contenders year in and year out. But we cannot be complacent with that. We're very close to being back, but this game doesn't show me we're any closer to top 5 status. Gotta keep pushing. And with so many teams probably rusty, this is the year get into top 5 discussion and REMAIN THERE EVERY YEAR.
 

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Here's Bill Connelly's early overreaction to our game:

Is Notre Dame ready for an ACC title push?

Notre Dame's offense started about as slowly as possible against Duke in Week 2, going three-and-out on its first three possessions and scoring only one touchdown in its first eight drives. The Fighting Irish finished the game with 17 points in four possessions to pull away to a 27-13 victory and then absolutely laid waste to poor South Florida on Saturday.

In six first-half possessions, they scored five touchdowns and missed a field goal. Because their defense was so thoroughly squashing the USF attack (65 total yards in the first half, 42 on one play), they generated a massive field position advantage -- average drive start in the first half: ND 50.2, USF 20.7 -- and rode a powerful run game to easy scores. They took their foot off the gas in the second half and still won 52-0. C'Bo Flemister, Chris Tyree and Kyren Williams combined for 31 carries and 254 yards.

USF isn't very good, but adjusting for opponent, the performance was still impressive enough for the Irish to hop Oklahoma and Texas into eighth in SP+. And now they get what should be a tuneup game at Wake Forest before visits from offensively challenged Florida State and defensively challenged Louisville. Even with Oct. 24 opponent Pitt looking pretty good, SP+ projects the Irish as a double-digit favorite in every game until the Nov. 7 showdown with Clemson. North Carolina and Miami should assure that this isn't a Big 12-style two-team race, but it's clear who the two best teams are at the moment.

And here's the post-USF Rakes Report:

1) If you’re going to trudge forward with a college football season as the country crumbles you might as well settle a couple old scores in the process. Last week, the Irish avenged their 2016 home loss to Duke, which remains the biggest upset by point spread of the Brian Kelly Era (Notre Dame was a three touchdown favorite, for some reason). This week, they took care of South Florida, the team that stunted the early momentum from Kelly’s first season with their improbable win in the 2011 opener. The Irish were victorious in style, despite missing a number of key players, to improve to 2-0 on the season and 26-3 since the calendar flipped to 2018.

2) I don’t want to oversell South Florida here, as they were big underdogs and clearly had a new head coach for a reason, but that was utter destruction. The Bulls mustered one (1) first down in the first half and went oh-for-third down over that same period, as Clark Lea’s lads were masterful despite missing five players from the two-deep. Between filling in for the absences to start and deep reserves getting on the field during a lengthy garbage time, we were able to welcome so many new characters from various parts of the Irish roster.

Perhaps the most pleasant surprise was Jack Kiser, who went from the scout team earlier this week to starter at linebacker after Shayne Simon and Marist Liufau were ruled out. If you’re unfamiliar with Kiser’s background, he was the 704th ranked player in the 247 Composite when he committed, playing at the lowest levels of Indiana state football. There was some message board concern it was a wasted scholarship by Lea because Kiser just wouldn’t be able to adjust to the level of competition faced by the Irish but one game of extended action and I think he acquitted himself quite well, leading the team in tackles, including two for loss. Tests will get much, much stiffer but South Florida had some speed at the skill positions and Kiser seemed unfazed.

It was also fun to see some of the younger guys show up. Isaiah Foskey had a couple more terrifying pursuits and another sack as he continues a strong start to his sophomore campaign. The freshmen also had some moments, with corner Clarence Lewis eyeing up the ball for a couple nice plays in coverage. Sophomore Cam Hart also calmly knocked down an end zone heave. Early Mike Mickens returns? Positive, even if we’re grading on a curve against a dreadful passing offense.

Jordan Botelho showed off his, uh, enthusiastic personality while abusing South Florida’s poor punter and getting a touchdown that probably should have been ruled down outside the goal line but the refs weren’t going to quibble with the margin as wide as it was. Alexander Ehrensberger, the German wild card/project, notched his first career sack and looked like he belonged already so a really nice day for the freshmen defensive ends getting their feet wet. K.J. Wallace and Houston Griffith were flying around while D.J. Brown was steady as they filled in for most of the snaps usually taken by Kyle Hamilton. Osita Ekwonu blocked a very flustered punt attempt. Ten different players recorded at least half a tackle for loss, an absolute flex from Lea and the depth chart he’s crafted.

3) Offense just ran over an overmatched Bulls front, but I want to note that one of the things that made it look easy was that Notre Dame went play-action on the first play, and then threw on the next two snaps as South Florida was geared up for rushes like Duke was to start. You don’t have to “Establish The Run” by running at the beginning of the game – you establish it on film in prior games and needn’t waste plays crashing head-on into the line to prove your manhood or whatever. Tommy Rees called a masterful game, making use of his deep well of tight ends and running backs while reincorporating Braden Lenzy into the fold. Javon McKinley was involved a bit more as the Irish were again shorthanded at wide receiver with Ben Skowronek and Lawrence Keys both missing the game.

(I was surprised to find out that coming into this game the South Florida defense was rated 34th out of 77 teams in the SP+ and 50th out of 130 in the FEI. I find it unlikely they’ll be that high when we reach December because that was not a good team, but at least on paper they were supposed to be respectable.)

If we were giving a game ball to an offensive player, it would be tough not to hand it to Tommy Tremble, who was the leading receiver, a devastating blocker and threw in one carry for a first-down conversion as a fullback. It was also the finest game of C’Borius Flemister’s career, as he ran for 127 yards and a touchdown. He got many of the second half carries because Kyren Williams and Chris Tyree did their damage early, building on the excitement of last week. Williams again showed off his tremendous balance while Tyree showed he’s as comfortable running inside for tough yards and showing patience waiting for blocks as he is frolicking through open space with the burners engaged. These two are going to mess around and put up 300 combined yards from scrimmage one of these days.

In all, Williams, Tyree and Flemister combined to rush for 259 yards on 31 carries, or over eight yards per tote. The offensive line, whose performance against Duke received raves from the analysts at Pro Football Focus, was excellent again in just completely mashing. Complementing them were Tremble, Michael Mayer and Brock Wright, who were all strong in run blocking as Rees used multiple tight end formations to build the early blowout (see above). Ian Book looked more comfortable from the start than last week, going seven of nine in the first quarter to help establish the 21-0 lead. He also ran for three touchdowns and worked in a couple of nice throws during a light day of work, including 30 accurate yards on the move to Lenzy for Zero’s first catch of the season.

4) If we want to nitpick, Book was solid but missed a few times, which contributed to the wide receivers totaling a scant four receptions - slightly troubling since “receiver” is in the name of the position and everything. The running backs also fumbled twice, and while the Irish were lucky enough to recover both please don’t do that. Also Jonathan Doerer missed a field goal, which was only the third or fourth weirdest special teams thing to happen in the game because South Florida was a mess in that department.

(I am of two minds on playcalling for Drew Pyne. One of them says if you’re going to put your back-up in in the third quarter, he should run the offense and throw more than twice. The other is that it’s possible Brendon Clark got way more reps than normal only to find out just before the game he wouldn’t be participating and/or considering everything swirling the goal was to just get out of there as quickly as possible. This was Kelly’s postgame quote on Pyne: "Drew is out there to eat clock. We gave him a couple of tough looks in the passing game where he didn't have much of a look there in terms of being able to throw it, but we really like Drew, and he'll be fine. He's smart. He works hard in all of the meetings, and he's always well prepared." I know they’re doing their best to keep Book in a bubble of one but hopefully both Clark and Pyne are ready for spot duty.)


5) Winning Is Hard Schadenfreude Round Up: A pretty light week, with most of the Big 12 on a bye and the SEC not revving up until next week. Duke turned it over five times against Boston College to lose 26-6 at home, with Phil Jurkovec earning a victory in his first career start. Louisville’s defense looked lost against Miami, who rolled to a road victory. Pitt was a three-touchdown favorite but had trouble putting Syracuse away at Heinz Field.

In the one Big 12 game that did happen, Oklahoma State looked awful against an equally woeful Tulsa team that appeared to have no idea how a play clock worked, but the Pokes escaped with a win. Tulane blew a 24-0 halftime lead against Navy, who eventually figured out how to tackle. Western Kentucky lost to Liberty at home as a two-touchdown favorite (I’m trying here). The schedule on Saturday starts to look a little more normal, but it’s very weird when the day of games is wrapped up by midnight with no kickoffs from the Pac-12 or Mountain West.

6) Notre Dame has won 20 straight home games, their last loss in the Stadium coming to Georgia at the beginning of the 2017 season. They have now won games 52-0 in consecutive seasons, following up last year’s devastation of Bowling Green with Saturday’s performance. One of the recurring themes of the last few freshman orientation podcasts is how few scholarships are wasted at this point on players who never really have a chance to contribute. Some guys don’t hit, sure, because scouting and development aren’t exact sciences but this roster is so deep and so good and built to survive this incredibly stupid season where players will be unavailable and games will be dropped 24 hours before kickoff. If you’re going to play college football during a pandemic, this weekend’s situation of losing a bunch of guys from the two-deep in the hours before kickoff and then rolling anyway is getting off easy.

The one big question remaining for this Irish is whether its passing game has enough upside to truly challenge for a playoff spot. A fair inquiry, but we’re not going to be able to answer it in either direction against Wake Forest in the next game. All the Irish can do is go on the road for the first time this year, absorb any additional roster losses like we saw Saturday and take care of business against a team they’re supposed to beat, a task they’ve done consistently for the last three-plus seasons. The real tests don’t start coming until October, but dropping the final game of September as an 18-point favorite is an easy way to make them all matter less.
 

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I didn't have a chance to watch the game until last night so I'm behind with my comments.

- That was really fun to watch. It's always enjoyable to watch so many guys get opportunities. You could feel the energy it brought to the team to see 3rd and 4th stringers play and play well. I think we got a glimpse of the future with this team and it looked pretty darn good.

- However, I'm not sure USF is a good measuring stick for whether all or some of these guys should be getting more PT this year. It's insanely fun to watch, don't get me wrong, but I'm think the opponent did have a lot to do with it. USF was really bad.

- The couple of instances where I think it's clear they need to be more involved is Foskey and Kiser.

- I thought it would be important for Book to be under Center this week (posted that in the Duke thread) as well as going forward. It was an emphasis this week and it worked out quite well. Book's numbers with play action were very good. He was 6 for 6, 91 yds and 15 yds/att on play action. We've seen it work against ISU and I think they need to stick with it. I would start every game under center and using play action. Make a team consistently stop it and here's why.

- The bad is, that outside of play action Book was 6 of 13 for 4 yds/att. Those are terrible. It's good that play action is working so well but this is where the opponent needs to be considered. Other, better, teams will probably be able to stop the run more effectively, without needing to add numbers, and won't have to commit it as much as USF did. Therefore, we need to continue to run it but we have to be able to generate more offense from the QB outside of it. The fact that Book overall didn't even avg over 8 yds/att against that team tells you where we are with him. Having to run Play action to get the QB comfortable against that defense is smart but it's not ideal long term. This is what we have and hopefully we continue to run the ball like we have for the last 6 quarters.

- RTDB! Exciting to watch these young backs eat. Chris Tyree is much better between the tackles than given credit for during his recruitment. C'Bo is more of a playmaker than most thought he would be. And, Kyren Williams is the real deal. I said during the offseason I thought this group was better than most media were giving them credit for and sometimes I'm right.
 
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