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You know you are going to give up big plays against DR. The key is limiting them to 30 yards and under. You can allow him to have multiple plays over 50 yards. Those are back-breakers.
 
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You know you are going to give up big plays against DR. The key is limiting them to 30 yards and under. You <can't?> allow him to have multiple plays over 50 yards. Those are back-breakers.

Nother cup of coffee?

Don't compare anything to last year.

Don't compare different paths to the same objective (OMM handled that very well), different teams, or different days.

Who has the overall speed advantage?
Who has the better strategy?
Since this is a sixty minute game and at lease one team has sixty players ready, who has the most balanced attack?
If anyone thinks they have seen the best of ND's offensive attack, they should go back to grammar school.
I have seen a lot of people claim that ND's defensive front seven isn't that good. Why?
(People can convince themselves of almost anything.)

I would rather be playing Michigan this week and be done with Purdue and MSU. They are going to kill some people this year! And they are much better than the credit they get.

Defense: Notre Dame does something a little different on defense than what Purdue, MSU, Michigan, or Alabama does. They play a predominance of two gap defense. The down linemen play head up and are responsible to the gap to the right and left of themselves. They have used this scheme two thirds of the time and more in games.

In the MGoBlog breakdown of the Irish Defense, when he pointed out how much of a danger man Seacláid na hÉireann was, (Irish Chocolate), his vidio software broke down, so he could only show stills of a play Louis blew up at the nose. I think it was a conspiracy. If his video software had worked it would have shown Seacláid in a two gap, driving the MSU center off the ball. Had the truth of this come out, Michigan fans and players would be running away in mortal fear.

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Here is the defensive end. Two gap gives you the opportunity to disguise everything. It also allows you to defend a smooth seamless front. Those can be huge advantages.

The disadvantage is that it is tiring and physically incredibly demanding on the defensive front.

Last year that is the real reason we lost. Our players were exhausted.

What is the difference this year? Kappy is better. Nix is way better. Schwenke is as good as Nix. Springman; welcome to the neighborhood. Tuitt is off the frickin chart. Houndshell and Day are better than any relievers that we had last year. (Contrary to what I have seen in print, Lynch and Tuitt never saw action last year against Michigan.) So to the man, this year every position grades out significantly higher. Last year we had four defensive linemen. Hell, even Sean Cwynar was in a cast and had a bum foot. And as far as using AL, his coach said he would not play assignment correct. Day will. In the fourth quarter. There will be much better legs.

We have eight ready defensive linemen for three spots this year. Plus we can move some CAT's around to make it look like nine or more. We can play them like hockey lines. No opponent can deal with that.

So not only will the legs be better, they will be fresher. And that is why ND's defense will have success against Michigan.
 

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Two more days meatchicken, two more fuggin days. That much deserved A$$ whoopin is a comin.
 

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I just watched the TP Protect This House Friday video and it got me thinking (daydreaming) of a nice intro video that would really work on a jumbotron before kickoff...

How many people in that stadium Saturday night remembers or even knows about the 1988 game where the fans were so loud ND actually got a penalty? Wouldn't it be nice to show or remind them what a loud crowd can do?

Also, the idea of having the audio of Manti saying, "who's house is this!?" and the entire 80,000+ screaming "OUR HOUSE!" gives me chills.

Make it happen ND stadium crew..."WHO's HOUSE IS THIS?"

Here is the TP video: Protect This House Friday Notre Dame. Michigan Week featuring Warriors by Santiago X The Natural - YouTube
 
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Great insight, Bogs!


By the way, I said before that I hoped it would rain...

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Showers / Wind

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Under a Blue-Grey sky....
 

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Great insight, Bogs!


By the way, I said before that I hoped it would rain...

Sat
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Showers / Wind

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Under a Blue-Grey sky....

Why would you hope for rain? Rain is worse for defenders trying to make reactionary cuts.... could lead to a ton of big plays for Michigan. And it would suck to watch the game in.... 45 degrees and raining? That would make for a HORRIBLE official visit for tons of prospects.
 

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Why would you hope for rain? Rain is worse for defenders trying to make reactionary cuts.... could lead to a ton of big plays for Michigan. And it would suck to watch the game in.... 45 degrees and raining? That would make for a HORRIBLE official visit for tons of prospects.

First of all, it is mainly because the last NDvUM game I went to it poured and ND was victorious. It was one of my finest ND memories, and as I said in my previous post, was mentioned earlier. So most of it is nostalgia. If the recruits had the same experience I had last time, then they will enjoy it. Don't be so dramatic, football is played outside.


That being said, I also don't buy that rain helps one team or the other. Sorry, but while it may make it harder for defenders to make reactionary cuts, it also makes it harder for Denard to make ankle-breaking jukes (and keep his shoes on, seriously). If you go back to games played in the pouring rain, you will find that it usually ends up not making a difference. Finally, if sloppy conditions dictates one type of football, it forces teams to focus more on their interior run game. UM is one of the worst between the tackle rushing teams in CFB, we also have one of the best front 7 in football.
 
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Great insight, Wooly!

Looking good, Bogs!

Feeling good, Wooly!

For any who don't get it yet, Wooly is right. Take everybody's ability to cut away, and who loses their advantage? NOT STEPHON, NOT MANTI, NOT PRINCE, NOT DANNY, NOT CAPPY, NOT SEACLÁID NA HÉIREANN!
 

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First of all, it is mainly because the last NDvUM game I went to it poured and ND was victorious. It was one of my finest ND memories, and as I said in my previous post, was mentioned earlier. So most of it is nostalgia. If the recruits had the same experience I had last time, then they will enjoy it. Don't be so dramatic, football is played outside.

I was at that game (if you're referring to '08). Admittedly awesome. It was also warm that day and in the afternoon haha. 44 degrees and raining is borderline freezing rain. Completely different animal from 70 degrees or 80 degrees. NOBODY enjoys sitting outside in that.

That being said, I also don't buy that rain helps one team or the other. Sorry, but while it may make it harder for defenders to make reactionary cuts, it also makes it harder for Denard to make ankle-breaking jukes (and keep his shoes on, seriously). If you go back to games played in the pouring rain, you will find that it usually ends up not making a difference. Finally, if sloppy conditions dictates one type of football, it forces teams to focus more on their interior run game. UM is one of the worst between the tackle rushing teams in CFB, we also have one of the best front 7 in football.

Slick conditions help the guy making the first cut because he knows which direction he is going. It hurts players reacting. That's pretty much a commonly accepted fact.
 

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IMO Rain, snow and mud always make for a better football game.
 

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Bog, I know you mentioned our CAT's being included in the down linemen, but I feel there is one that needs individual mention.

Prince Shembo.

He will be a terror coming off the edge again this week. Breaking Denard.
 

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I was at that game (if you're referring to '08). Admittedly awesome. It was also warm that day and in the afternoon haha. 44 degrees and raining is borderline freezing rain. Completely different animal from 70 degrees or 80 degrees. NOBODY enjoys sitting outside in that.



Slick conditions help the guy making the first cut because he knows which direction he is going. It hurts players reacting. That's pretty much a commonly accepted fact.

Was at the 08 game as well and it was pretty awesome.

The slick conditions are the same for everyone though. Our receivers will have the same advantage as theirs. I will take that every day of the week because the bottom line is you still have to catch the ball, wet, soggy, and slick.

I give the advantage to us, in that, our qb is capable of delivering a better ball.

And for those who say will Golson has never played in the rain, let us not forget that two years ago in his first spring game it was POURING!
 
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I just watched the TP Protect This House Friday video and it got me thinking (daydreaming) of a nice intro video that would really work on a jumbotron before kickoff...

How many people in that stadium Saturday night remembers or even knows about the 1988 game where the fans were so loud ND actually got a penalty? Wouldn't it be nice to show or remind them what a loud crowd can do?

Also, the idea of having the audio of Manti saying, "who's house is this!?" and the entire 80,000+ screaming "OUR HOUSE!" gives me chills.

Make it happen ND stadium crew..."WHO's HOUSE IS THIS?"

Here is the TP video: Protect This House Friday Notre Dame. Michigan Week featuring Warriors by Santiago X The Natural - YouTube

I want to see everyone in the stands wearing plastic flowers, spontaneously point their right hand to the sky and cheer Man-ti! Man-ti! Man-ti . . .
 
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Bog, I know you mentioned our CAT's being included in the down linemen, but I feel there is one that needs individual mention.

Prince Shembo.

He will be a terror coming off the edge again this week. Breaking Denard.

Exactly, disguise him. Bring him off either edge, and with the three down linemen, that will be enough. I don't believe UMfans arguements that their big lt will be enought to handle the Prince of Pandemoneum. I don't think he is that quick. The problem, and if you watch the MSU tape. Shembo on a number of plays just threw the MSU tackle to the ground. I don't care if he was a rookie. He was a big rookie. Shembo coming takes herculean strength and mercurail speed. Maybe some got both but, not Michigan, not Saturday . . .
 

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So apparently we actually did do something last year....

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"UM Girls...so easy a caveman could do it" draped by ND students at Michigan last year

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I was at that game (if you're referring to '08). Admittedly awesome. It was also warm that day and in the afternoon haha. 44 degrees and raining is borderline freezing rain. Completely different animal from 70 degrees or 80 degrees. NOBODY enjoys sitting outside in that.



Slick conditions help the guy making the first cut because he knows which direction he is going. It hurts players reacting. That's pretty much a commonly accepted fact.

Agreed. But the reason this does not help Denard is that. Help. Nobody on his team is going to be likely to keep up with him when he is making his cut.

And I played against a guy like him in the old days. Nowhere near a Denard, but still massively shifty. So I saw it; in the same conditions. The weather may favor even a guy like him on the first cut, but it works against him on his bread and butter, which is his second or third cut.
 

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I was at that game (if you're referring to '08). Admittedly awesome. It was also warm that day and in the afternoon haha. 44 degrees and raining is borderline freezing rain. Completely different animal from 70 degrees or 80 degrees. NOBODY enjoys sitting outside in that.



Slick conditions help the guy making the first cut because he knows which direction he is going. It hurts players reacting. That's pretty much a commonly accepted fact.

"Commonly accepted"? I disagree as do others, which kinda invalidates "commonly accepted". But whatever, I really don't care if you disagree with me on this, I still want it to rain.

If this game turned into a rushing battle, we win that department over UM, period. They cannot pound between the tackles, we can. They have a weak Dline, we do not.

Great insight, Wooly!

Looking good, Bogs!

Feeling good, Wooly!

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If it's muddy, you have to think that gives DR some advantage once he gets his straight-line speed.

On the other hand, we can power-run better than them, so it could be USC 10'.
 
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That is because you are from California, pussy!

(I think earthquakes do, too!)

Haha! I've also lived in Colorado, Indiana, Georgia, Washington, Rhode Island and Florida. As kids, the first thing we would think of to do if it started to rain or snow, was to get up a football game. Every Thanksgiving I spent in Colorado was started off with an early AM football game and we always hoped for snow.
 

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Protect This House Friday. UM week. The guys how do the music for the first part of the video will be performing at the pep rally tomorrow.

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Michigan is going into this game weaker on both sides of the line. Not to mention weaker at LB and at RB. If you count Eifert as a WR, we probably have better WRs as well. D-backs? Push?

This should be lop-sided.
 
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