Sep 14 | Purdue

[stlnd01]

How can you be so sure that it is not TR changing the play at the line of scrimmage. He certainly seems to be doing something on almost every play. Maybe Martin is calling for a run or a pass down the field and TR is changing it to a three yard out.

Because Rees isn't throwing a lot of three-yard outs? I've got to think a lot of that audibling is changing out of the run. He sees a loaded box and switches to a pass. At this point Tommy's got the arm strength, and the receivers, for a decent vertical game. We've used it in the second half of both of the last two games (and early against Temple). And then it stretches out the defense so we can run. Not sure why we're not using more often.

 

[Buster Bluth]

How can you be so sure that it is not TR changing the play at the line of scrimmage. He certainly seems to be doing something on almost every play. Maybe Martin is calling for a run or a pass down the field and TR is changing it to a three yard out.

That wouldn't explain the screens and predictable run plays.

Reesus is on pace to throw for more than 4,000 yards, which would be a Notre Dame record. He's not the problem. Hell he probably could have thrown for 400 yards in each of the first three games, not 300.

 

[Irish Insanity]

Does Rees get a list of plays he can check in to, or just one or two? Serious question as I don't know. If its a list then he needs to call the long ball more, if its a few then its on the coordinator for limiting what he can check to. Either way, Rees isn't our issue. And all the screens need to stop. We aren't that good at them when its 50% of the plays.

 

[Pa Golden Tate Fan]

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[tko]

We rarely find out.

Go to class. it's that simple.

 

[Irish Insanity]

Go to class. it's that simple.

Love that our program disciplines players for what other teams see as a normal behavior. STUDENT athletes.

 

[MJ12666]

That wouldn't explain the screens and predictable run plays.

Reesus is on pace to throw for more than 4,000 yards, which would be a Notre Dame record. He's not the problem. Hell he probably could have thrown for 400 yards in each of the first three games, not 300.

You cannot state that for a fact, unless of course you are sitting in on the pregame meetings or are plugged into the game day communication system. TR may very well be checking into screen passes and or run plays, we just do not know and will probably never know.

4,000 yards would be an exceptional personal achievement. Personally I would be happier if TR would pass for a few more yards in the red zone; maybe the offense could score more then three TD's against a quality opponent.

 

[Irish#1]

I was at the game so I don't know what was mentioned on TV and I haven't read the previous posts, but here's my own two cents worth.

1. We had a hangover from the Michigan game.
2. Purdue was fired up.
3. Purdue changed their offensive game plan to take advantages of their QB's strengths unlike the first two games. This through us off for most of the game.
4. Boilers kept loading one side but throwing to the opposite to try and get one on one match-ups. We finally figured it out in the fourth with the pick six.
5. Tommy was off early bit found a groove.
6. Kelly has to stop going to the quick out and bubble screens so much. We run that play way too much and teams are ready for it.
7. Still lacking in solid play by our backers.
8. Loved that the team kept fighting and finally turned it up in the fourth.

 

[FearTheBeard]

I was there too and one thing that is for sure is the playcalling needs to quit being so predictable. It was the same way last week so i feel like im beating a dead horse but its terrible, although did improve some later on. I could sit next to my buddy and some guy next to me and call out plays. I dont study film and spent all day tailgating so i cant imagine how well the other teams see what were going to do. You cant keep telegraphing the plays, thank god Rees kept us hanging in there.

Also, Purdue definitely thrived off the atmosphere but thats no excuse to not perform like we should. Our defense should really be tighter, 24 points isnt terrible but then again it is purdue. Theres no question that we arent where we were last year on d and thats fine, but we desperately need more speed at ILB...oh and toss that terrible WR screen out of the playbook

Edit: im not panicking at all. some people keep talking about panicking, theres no reason for it. but there is a lot of improvements needed

 

[NDWorld247]

Also, Purdue definitely thrived off the atmosphere but thats no excuse to not perform like we should. Our defense should really be tighter, 24 points isnt terrible but then again it is purdue. Theres no question that we arent where we were last year on d and thats fine, but we desperately need more speed at ILB...oh and toss that terrible WR screen out of the playbook

Two comments here...

1. Re: speed at ILB...I watched the first quarter earlier today and it's not that our ILB's are slow (I'm not saying they're fast either), we're just asking them to play man coverage against a RB and that's not a favorable matchup for 90+% of defenses/LBs in the country. Purdue ran two successful screen passes on the first drive of the game that people will likely blame the ILB's for, but it's not easy to cover your man while fighting through lead blockers. We didn't ask Manti to do it last year and we run the risk of getting exposed if we continue to ask our ILBs to do it this year.

Side note: My high school played a "screen" team this weekend and before the game I told our DC that we should play less man coverage to help defend against it. He said we would be fine in man because the LB had the RB. Well, we were torched on the screen all night and it wasn't a speed issue. They sent 4 verts and slipped the RB out. Our LB was there, but so weren't two blockers and all of our DBs were running downfield with their backs to the LOS. We made adjustments (i.e. played more zone and put a "red light" on 1-2 of our DL on every play) and won the game.

2. The bubble screen is a great play when it's not telegraphed. They ran one in the 2nd half with Jones and Daniels split to one side that went for 10-12 yards. It worked against Temple with Niklas split out but now teams have had the chance to review film and know every time Niklas and Smith are out there they need to watch for the WR screen. That play I'm referring to leaves me somewhat encouraged that the diversity in play calling will improve as we move through the season.

 

[JughedJones]

I think that our simplistic D play calling is absolutely killing us.

We run a straight base 3-4 two deep most of the time, then when we blitz, it's always straight up telegraphed.

I'm no football genius, but when you show a decent opponent what you're going to do pre-snap... you're going to get smoked.

We don't have Manti or Motta out there anymore, we have to get a little more exotic. A good team is going to absolutely crush us if we don't disguise our defense a little better.


I said it during the game, and I'll say it now. I'm not sure Diaco is the genius defensive mind we might think he is.

He can recruit, get his guys pumped, and instill trust, but I don't think he's a terribly good tactician.

 

[Buster Bluth]

I think that our simplistic D play calling is absolutely killing us.

We run a straight base 3-4 two deep most of the time, then when we blitz, it's always straight up telegraphed.

I'm no football genius, but when you show a decent opponent what you're going to do pre-snap... you're going to get smoked.

We don't have Manti or Motta out there anymore, we have to get a little more exotic. A good team is going to absolutely crush us if we don't disguise our defense a little better.


I said it during the game, and I'll say it now. I'm not sure Diaco is the genius defensive mind we might think he is.

He can recruit, get his guys pumped, and instill trust, but I don't think he's a terribly good tactician.

You're not giving him any credit for how well he makes adjustments. There aren't many games during which the defense doesn't adjust and clamp down. Purdue was doing well initially rolling the pocket and whatnot, but it didn't last very long.

I mean you do realize that Purdue rushed for thirty yards right? People are posting as if they just gave up 600 yards of offense.

 

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[Irish#1]

You're not giving him any credit for how well he makes adjustments. There aren't many games during which the defense doesn't adjust and clamp down. Purdue was doing well initially rolling the pocket and whatnot, but it didn't last very long.

I mean you do realize that Purdue rushed for thirty yards right? People are posting as if they just gave up 600 yards of offense.

You could see we made adjustments, but we always telegraph our blitzes and they tend to only come when the opposing team gets around the 30 or deeper. I don't think we need to blitz all the time, but I would like to disguise it until the snap.

 

[Cackalacky]

I've got both the Michigan and Purdue games, but I'm limited to only uploading 15 minutes on Youtube. I could try to post the video on a download site, but there's probably some limitations on size.

Try Dropbox. I use it all the time.

 

[NDFan4Life]

Try Dropbox. I use it all the time.

I upgraded my Youtube account. I'll upload it there when I get home from work. If that doesn't work, I'll try there. Thanks.

 

[dublinirish]

alpha beta or noonkick will the game on youtube by wednesday at the latest ill bet

 

[NDFan4Life]

alpha beta or noonkick will the game on youtube by wednesday at the latest ill bet

I believe Alpha Beta and noonkick are the same people. They still don't have the ND/Michigan game up. I'll try to get it uploaded later today.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I believe the ground is somewhere in the middle with Bob Diaco.

Full disclosure: I am so terribly colored by Freddy-gate from last year, and some other rumors I have heard about "certain coaches not getting along with certain recruits," that it is not easy for me to be objective.

Bad: 3-4 bend but don't brake. In college ball you need a defense that punches the opponent in the mouth, and gets them out of their offensive rhythm.

Bad: ND's defense is about as hard to predict as ND's offense, (personel groups and packages). Purdue knew exactly when to put their personel groupings in and exactly how to throw back to weak man coverage. Or should I say to get the weak man coverage they wanted.

Bad. Defense has not progressed this year. Yet.

Good. Adjustments. Bob is a good adjuster. It would break my heart if Elston, Cooks, or Kelly were the ones making the adjustments.

 

[NDFan4Life]

Youtube says, 300 minutes to go. I've been uploading it for over an hour and a half already. Over 5 hours to upload a 2 hour video?!?!?

 

[MJ12666]

I believe the ground is somewhere in the middle with Bob Diaco.

Full disclosure: I am so terribly colored by Freddy-gate from last year, and some other rumors I have heard about "certain coaches not getting along with certain recruits," that it is not easy for me to be objective.

Bad: 3-4 bend but don't brake. In college ball you need a defense that punches the opponent in the mouth, and gets them out of their offensive rhythm.

Bad: ND's defense is about as hard to predict as ND's offense, (personel groups and packages). Purdue knew exactly when to put their personel groupings in and exactly how to throw back to weak man coverage. Or should I say to get the weak man coverage they wanted.

Bad. Defense has not progressed this year. Yet.

Good. Adjustments. Bob is a good adjuster. It would break my heart if Elston, Cooks, or Kelly were the ones making the adjustments.

Issue #1 - You can only play aggressive and "punch the opponent in the mouth" if you have the personnel. ND does not and the last two games the defense played way to aggressively and blitzed way to much. If you cannot sack the QB or make him through the ball away when you blitz, all you are doing it opening up the field and giving receivers more room to operate and making your DB's play man to man. I think you should re-evaluate your conclusion on the bend don't break approach.

Issue #2 - Can't agree with you more. He needs to put his best players on the field and unless it is third and 1 or less or 10 or more, he should not substitute.

Issues #3 - I agree. They do not seem to be getting any better from game 1 through 3.

Issue #4 - I think you need to re-evaluate your conclusion. I remember after the Navy game a few years ago Bob saying you can't really make any adjustments to your game plan. Now he may have changed but quite frankly I don't see it and that could be why you have not seen any progression in the defense this year.

 

[NDdomer2]

anybody know the guy in this picture?

 

[BeauBenken]

Youtube says, 300 minutes to go. I've been uploading it for over an hour and a half already. Over 5 hours to upload a 2 hour video?!?!?

Dang! Did you let it upload over night?

 

[dublinirish]

Youtube says, 300 minutes to go. I've been uploading it for over an hour and a half already. Over 5 hours to upload a 2 hour video?!?!?

Tis the bane of youtube uploading alright, People who post regularly always complain about upload speeds being awful. Its quite intermittant too i have heard, somedays uploads are slower than others.

 

[aubeirish]

Tis the bane of youtube uploading alright, People who post regularly always complain about upload speeds being awful. Its quite intermittant too i have heard, somedays uploads are slower than others.

The amount of videos being uploaded is just ridiculous...

 

[dublinirish]

The amount of videos being uploaded is just ridiculous...

I have a buddy who works at Google HQ here in Dublin and they have a team of guys whose job it is to vet new uploads to Youtube for dodgy material etc. The amount of SH1TE they must have to sit through..

 

[aubeirish]

I have a buddy who works at Google HQ here in Dublin and they have a team of guys whose job it is to vet new uploads to Youtube for dodgy material etc. The amount of SH1TE they must have to sit through..

There must be some pretty random stuff indeed.

 

[NDFan4Life]

Tis the bane of youtube uploading alright, People who post regularly always complain about upload speeds being awful. Its quite intermittant too i have heard, somedays uploads are slower than others.

I let it upload overnight, and I got a "failure to upload" error. I hate when that happens. The video's about 2.5 GB, so it's kind of difficult to find someplace to store it for free. I'll try to upload it agian tonight.

 

[BeauBenken]

I let it upload overnight, and I got a "failure to upload" error. I hate when that happens. The video's about 2.5 GB, so it's kind of difficult to find someplace to store it for free. I'll try to upload it agian tonight.

I'm currently getting one from a torrent. Hope it's good quality. It's been going for about 30 minutes and is at 72 percent. Not bad.

 

[NDFan4Life]

I'm currently getting one from a torrent. Hope it's good quality. It's been going for about 30 minutes and is at 72 percent. Not bad.

That's how I got mine. If it's the same one, it's pretty decent quality.