Russia Invades Ukraine

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If they want to fight, good for them. Go fight then. Spend more time fighting and less time crying about the consequences.
I think everyone feels like Russian SOP in war zones is fair game to criticize. You know, bombing hospitals to cow a population into submission? Or are the ukranians to blame because they should know their kids will be targeted if they act out?

I'm sure your take on domestic violence would be fascinating too. You know, sometimes they're just asking for it
 

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russia's military is on their way to being on par with isis in terms of fire power


Not fast enough. They’re still shooting civilians and bombing cities into oblivion. Looks like they’re bombing even more aggressively after “regrouping”

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Good for them. They will die then. Not my problem.

Pretty gross that people are rooting for Ukrainian people to stand up to a country and die while we just watch on our phones. We aren't gonna do anything. They should make a deal.
Dumbest thing I’ve ever read on this site.

Yeah... because I'm American? I don't give a shit about Ukraine because I'm not from there, and really have no desire to go there. It's the poorest country in Europe. It's basically North Dakota if we didn't have money. It has no geographic beauty. No famous sites to see. They abort over half their pregnancies. Hell, until a couple weeks ago the world had apparently been mispronouncing the only city of theirs any of us had heard of.

"If you lived in Ukraine" lol chances are I wouldn't have been born. Likely would have been aborted. They aren't some noble people deserving our love and support. They are just another shitty group of people like Russians.

I stand corrected.
 

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Yeah... because I'm American? I don't give a shit about Ukraine because I'm not from there, and really have no desire to go there. It's the poorest country in Europe. It's basically North Dakota if we didn't have money. It has no geographic beauty. No famous sites to see. They abort over half their pregnancies. Hell, until a couple weeks ago the world had apparently been mispronouncing the only city of theirs any of us had heard of.

"If you lived in Ukraine" lol chances are I wouldn't have been born. Likely would have been aborted. They aren't some noble people deserving our love and support. They are just another shitty group of people like Russians.
Never said they were the bastions of morality, but you’re talking about those who have run the government and most everyone on here is more concerned for the citizens who are the victims.

Seems strange you keep saying you don’t give a crap about Ukraine, but you’re pretty active with your opinions.
 

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Yeah... because I'm American? I don't give a shit about Ukraine because I'm not from there, and really have no desire to go there. It's the poorest country in Europe. It's basically North Dakota if we didn't have money. It has no geographic beauty. No famous sites to see. They abort over half their pregnancies. Hell, until a couple weeks ago the world had apparently been mispronouncing the only city of theirs any of us had heard of.

"If you lived in Ukraine" lol chances are I wouldn't have been born. Likely would have been aborted. They aren't some noble people deserving our love and support. They are just another shitty group of people like Russians.
Wow, here I thought you were just being contrarian. Turns out you’re just a jerk..
 
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Maybe Russia will squeal.... but I have my doubts. A hard people led by a hard man. They have suffered through much worse historically.
Good chance they do squeal. For the past 20 years they have been living with the products of western civilization and not been forced to stand in bread lines. A entire new generation has grown up with shopping malls, McDonalds, cell phones, etc. They never stood in a bread line.
 

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you’re looking at this from an American prism. You’d probably have a different opinion if you lived in Ukraine.
Or if Canada was the equivalent to Russia. Then he'd be in America's Ukraine. Wonder if he'd still be Monty Hall then?
 

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So this journalist killed in Ukraine was found wearing a NYTimes press pass, but he hasn't contributed anything to the NYT since 2015 and wasn't there on assignment for them.

Something very odd about this "murder."
 

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Wow, here I thought you were just being contrarian. Turns out you’re just a jerk..

Like 99% of other Americans that just hope gas prices and food prices stabilize. If the recipe for cheaper gas, cheaper commodities and consumer goods was to nuke Ukraine the majority wouldn’t lose sleep.
 

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So this journalist killed in Ukraine was found wearing a NYTimes press pass, but he hasn't contributed anything to the NYT since 2015 and wasn't there on assignment for them.

Something very odd about this "murder."
Does he know the Clinton’s?
 

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Like 99% of other Americans that just hope gas prices and food prices stabilize. If the recipe for cheaper gas, cheaper commodities and consumer goods was to nuke Ukraine the majority wouldn’t lose sleep.
Your soul has rotted.

And on top of that you are undisciplined.

Since when do you speak for 99% of other Americans.

But, really, speaking as another American, you should try this:


God, whose nature is ever merciful and forgiving, accept our prayer that this servant of yours, bound by the fetters of sin, may be pardoned by your loving kindness.

Holy Lord, almighty Father, everlasting God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who once and for all consigned that fallen and apostate tyrant to the flames of hell, who sent your only-begotten Son into the world to crush that roaring lion; hasten to our call for help and snatch from ruination and from the clutches of the noonday devil this human being made in your image and likeness. Strike terror, Lord, into the beast now laying waste your vineyard. Fill your servants with courage to fight manfully against that reprobate dragon, lest he despise those who put their trust in you, and say with Pharaoh of old: "I know not God, nor will I set Israel free." Let your mighty hand cast him out of your servant, (The name of the person), so he may no longer hold captive this person whom it pleased you to make in your image, and to redeem through your Son; who lives and reigns with you, in the unity of the Holy Spirit, God, forever and ever.

All: Amen.

Then he commands the demon as follows:

I command you, unclean spirit, whoever you are, along with all your minions now attacking this servant of God, by the mysteries of the incarnation, passion, resurrection, and ascension of our Lord Jesus Christ, by the descent of the Holy Spirit, by the coming of our Lord for judgment, that you tell me by some sign your name, and the day and hour of your departure. I command you, moreover, to obey me to the letter, I who am a minister of God despite my unworthiness; nor shall you be emboldened to harm in any way this creature of God, or the bystanders, or any of their possessions.

The priest lays his hand on the head of the sick person, saying:

They shall lay their hands upon the sick and all will be well with them. May Jesus, Son of Mary, Lord and Savior of the world, through the merits and intercession of His holy apostles Peter and Paul and all His saints, show you favor and mercy.
 

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More like an arrogance prism, continually spouting off bullsh*t generalizations and absurdist hyperbole. Most posters on here don’t want nuclear war and are intelligent enough to understand the actions that can lead to this. Most posters on here recognize the humanitarian crisis that citizens in Ukraine are suffering in live-time, and feel for their plight without virtue signaling or using their struggle as political posturing. Most posters on here want a resolution that involves an immediate ceasefire and withdrawal of Russian troops, not escalation or the hope more people will die. Most posters on here do not view the general Russian populace as deserving of the suffering that is already crippling their economic existence, nor the disposal of young men forced to die for a despot. Most posters on here have a nuanced understanding of politics and global affairs, and are discussing what is happening in Ukraine with differing opinions and anecdotes. But only a few feel cozy writing sh*t comments like “Congrats on rooting for millions to die” and referring to Ukrainians being “jailsexed”.
My sole quibble with your post, and it may be "de minimis" is that the prism is 100% NARCISSISM, in which arrogance is a "lesser included offense."
But I may be incorrect. You have, indeed, succinctly summarized the weight of opinion on this board.

One other question: "Have we spoiled our young people?"
 

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A curated summary of
North Dakota´s humor
for Sunday readers catching up


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Starting with


"Doubt Old Man Mike has any understanding…."

and then

I love German culture. My ancestry is nearly entirely Kraut. They make good cars and great weapons.... but they are a useless country filled with useless people.

I don't give a shit about Ukraine because I'm not from there

My mom's family came from Odessa. Are you gonna tell me i can't opine about my own tribe?

They aren't some noble people deserving our love and support. They are just another shitty group of people like Russians.

Being slightly less shitty than your neighbor doesn't make you a good person.

I give zero shits about a largely Godless country who aborts their children at 50%+ rates....

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Ukraine and Russia…speak (from what my friends tell me) the same language for all intents and purposes.
(from what my friends tell me)


… my buddy's parents are from Ukraine. They are Jewish for what it's worth. God's Chosen could easily have a unique perspective from the Slavs.

Ukraine belongs with Russia.... the two are related. That only gives him a casus belli as far as I'm concerned.

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Russia has no intention of liquidating what they perceive as their own people.

Ukraine has already lost. Their cities are being besieged. Millions have fled.
Thousands have died and that number will only go up.


Congrats on rooting for millions to die.

Good for them. They will die then. Not my problem.

Russia has no intention of liquidating what they perceive as their own people

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Time for Ukraine to make a deal.
…they are getting jailsexed.


Ukraine isn't worth dying for and I'm guessing their leadership has found that out the last week or two.

If I was leading Ukraine, I'd take that deal in a heartbeat.

Yeah… because I´m American


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OK, now you can go back to Comics Section

We can read. Stop being that annoying 4th grader yelling “he said your momma” from the back of the crowd. You could just start your own North Dakota thread.
 

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Your soul has rotted.

And on top of that you are undisciplined.

Since when do you speak for 99% of other Americans.

But, really, speaking as another American, you should try this:


God, whose nature is ever merciful and forgiving, accept our prayer that this servant of yours, bound by the fetters of sin, may be pardoned by your loving kindness.

Holy Lord, almighty Father, everlasting God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who once and for all consigned that fallen and apostate tyrant to the flames of hell, who sent your only-begotten Son into the world to crush that roaring lion; hasten to our call for help and snatch from ruination and from the clutches of the noonday devil this human being made in your image and likeness. Strike terror, Lord, into the beast now laying waste your vineyard. Fill your servants with courage to fight manfully against that reprobate dragon, lest he despise those who put their trust in you, and say with Pharaoh of old: "I know not God, nor will I set Israel free." Let your mighty hand cast him out of your servant, (The name of the person), so he may no longer hold captive this person whom it pleased you to make in your image, and to redeem through your Son; who lives and reigns with you, in the unity of the Holy Spirit, God, forever and ever.

All: Amen.

Then he commands the demon as follows:

I command you, unclean spirit, whoever you are, along with all your minions now attacking this servant of God, by the mysteries of the incarnation, passion, resurrection, and ascension of our Lord Jesus Christ, by the descent of the Holy Spirit, by the coming of our Lord for judgment, that you tell me by some sign your name, and the day and hour of your departure. I command you, moreover, to obey me to the letter, I who am a minister of God despite my unworthiness; nor shall you be emboldened to harm in any way this creature of God, or the bystanders, or any of their possessions.

The priest lays his hand on the head of the sick person, saying:

They shall lay their hands upon the sick and all will be well with them. May Jesus, Son of Mary, Lord and Savior of the world, through the merits and intercession of His holy apostles Peter and Paul and all His saints, show you favor and mercy.
You are giving people too much credit.
 

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The Battle is as old as civilization

GOOD VERSUS EVIL

RIGHT VERSUS WRONG

Thugs and Bullies versus free people and humans


Stay focused

Scotland and William Wallace versus the British empire and Longshanks

Mahandas Gandhi and Indian versus the British empire

Mandela and apartheid

The Allied Expeditionary Force and the Third Reich

Ukraine is closer to good, Putin pure evil

Ukraine is right, and the invaders, the thugs, the war criminals are wrong.

Don't get confused.

Ya either in or ya out
 

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Oy vey!


One wonders when the suckers in Russia will start to get suspicious.

Maybe we can start a line of Sweatshirts and TSHIRTS

"VLAD SANCTION PROoFED RUSSIA"
 

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Oy vey!


One wonders when the suckers in Russia will start to get suspicious.

Maybe we can start a line of Sweatshirts and TSHIRTS

"VLAD SANCTION PROoFED RUSSIA"
@Te'o4Heisman can help with the shirt order, FYI.
 

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Missing italics?
99% is def a stretch but lets be real. The average AMERICAN probably just knows "Russia bad" and dont have a clue where Ukraine is on a map or that it even existed before 2022. Can't speak for Canada though.
 

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This is the time to be planning a unified Europe whose sphere of influence stretches from the Atlantic to the Pacific, pushes down into the Caucasus to connect with Georgia / Armenia and supports the 'Stans that want to align with the West. Let those who profit from making Russia the boogeyman, finally die off with their anti-Soviet fetishes.

Putin will not survive this, so be prepared.

In the words of the great Rahm Emanuel:

"Never let a good crisis go to waste."
 

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99% is def a stretch but lets be real. The average AMERICAN probably just knows "Russia bad" and dont have a clue where Ukraine is on a map or that it even existed before 2022. Can't speak for Canada though.
The average American is indeed very ignorant on geopolitics as has been established in many polls and studies. However, its disingenuous to say that most Americans would prefer innocent people get nuked if it meant saving a buck on gas and groceries. On the whole, people are much more empathetic than that.
 

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This is the time to be planning a unified Europe whose sphere of influence stretches from the Atlantic to the Pacific, pushes down into the Caucasus to connect with Georgia / Armenia and supports the 'Stans that want to align with the West. Let those who profit from making Russia the boogeyman, finally die off with their anti-Soviet fetishes.

Putin will not survive this, so be prepared.

In the words of the great Rahm Emanuel:

"Never let a good crisis go to waste."
First, Russia under PUTIN is ANTI=FREEDOM
a THUG nation
an aggressor nation
a War crime nation.

Not all of the Russian people are complicit, that is clear. They have been propagandized and duped.

But you are WAAAAAAAAAYYYYY off on your NEW WORLD ORDER.

That ship has sailed.

The days of empires and "planning unity" are OVER.

The EU is working together because of commonality of interest and "mutually assured desire for profit and trade.": There is a reason the dickheads from Britain took their football and went home to their detriment

NATO is more unified than ever for fear "THESE CRAZY RUSSIANS WANT To kill us all."

It is bottom up rather than top down.

Your "tell" Bobby is "anti-Soviet fetishes" Say what now? Kindly elucidate.

But the days of four mopes sitting either at the Mystic Knights of the Sea table or at a mahogany table in Versailles with these overblown dumbasses"

Lloyd George
Clemenceau
Woody "I went to Princeton!!" Wilson
and Orlando

and planning a new world order
to usurp, oppress and suppress the sovereignty of nations?????.

Uh, uh, not now. Not in this "morning in the world."
 

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First, Russia under PUTIN is ANTI=FREEDOM
a THUG nation
an aggressor nation
a War crime nation.

Not all of the Russian people are complicit, that is clear. They have been propagandized and duped.

But you are WAAAAAAAAAYYYYY off on your NEW WORLD ORDER.

That ship has sailed.

The days of empires and "planning unity" are OVER.

The EU is working together because of commonality of interest and "mutually assured desire for profit and trade.": There is a reason the dickheads from Britain took their football and went home to their detriment

NATO is more unified than ever for fear "THESE CRAZY RUSSIANS WANT To kill us all."

It is bottom up rather than top down.

Your "tell" Bobby is "anti-Soviet fetishes" Say what now? Kindly elucidate.

But the days of four mopes sitting either at the Mystic Knights of the Sea table or at a mahogany table in Versailles with these overblown dumbasses"

Lloyd George
Clemenceau
Woody "I went to Princeton!!" Wilson
and Orlando

and planning a new world order
to usurp, oppress and suppress the sovereignty of nations?????.

Uh, uh, not now. Not in this "morning in the world."
You sound like a relic.

We've flipped 2/3's of the governed Slavic-world to be pro-west. Tha doesn't include any west leaning people in Russia / Belarus.

Why do we have to remain in yesterday's US v. Comrade Lenin mentality? China and militant/fundamentalist Islam are rivals you can't fix. If you need bogeymen, look no further.
 
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