Rumored Violations

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autry_denson

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Except we're forever tossing away the #1 winning percentage and will never chase down all-time wins.

yup. a very big part of the lore of ND is its history, tradition, legacies. numbers play an important role in that. if wins are vacated in my mind it may be the most damaging part of this whole fiasco.

from the start I think the biggest mistake (of many) was to even mention the idea of vacating wins in the first press conference.
 

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I mean, if the players would be allowed to return in 2015, I seriously doubt vacating wins will happen then IMO.
 

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Also strange that a guy with 18 followers on Twitter initiated the message. Why would Sampson allow himself to be scooped?
 

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Damn I don't care what the result is...I just want some damn closure. So I'm running with this!
 

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It's just sad that literally all of the bad consequences could've been avoided by:
1. Catching people cheating in a timely manner instead of it taking years.
2. Instead of launching a giant probe, just dealing with the specific cheating initially brought to their attention.

So, kudos to the administration on a job well done.
 

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It's just sad that literally all of the bad consequences could've been avoided by:
1. Catching people cheating in a timely manner instead of it taking years.
2. Instead of launching a giant probe, just dealing with the specific cheating initially brought to their attention.

So, kudos to the administration on a job well done.

Screw the valiant fact finding and Opus Dei style approach.
 

IrishSteelhead

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Anybody want to grab a beer and reminisce about the "Rumored Violations" thread from a few minutes ago?
 

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I moved on from them a long time ago. Sure, the process was bullshit but fact is, they were caught doing shit they shouldn't have been doing. Nobody else to blame but yourself.

Of course I support them and hope they can return/play a la Golson but we're too deep into the season for me to give a shit.

Again, process is archaic and bullshit but I gave up on it a long time ago.
 

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I wouldn't get too worked up about these rumors just yet. Remember all the rumors swirling around the first few weeks? Everyone thought this or that was about to happen and look for that turned out? 2 months later we are still here. With the decision coming soon, people could be making shit up just like last time. Let's see how this plays out when it's offical.
 

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I want to make this very clear. Vacating wins is not. an. option. If the university is seriously considering vacating wins, then I want all involved parties in that process fired immediately. The admin has already reached the point of no return, but if the university actually thinks that vacating wins is anything but a completely brainless idea, then heads need to roll.

What happens to these kids will ultimately fall on them. They made the mistake (supposedly) and THE UNIVERSITY caught them. That I understand, but don't you even DARE take the team down with them. That would be about as disgraceful as you can get.
 

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Random question: if these guys are not allowed to come back this season, how many scholarship players would that leave nd with?
 

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I want to make this very clear. Vacating wins is not. an. option. If the university is seriously considering vacating wins, then I want all involved parties in that process fired immediately. The admin has already reached the point of no return, but if the university actually thinks that vacating wins is anything but a completely brainless idea, then heads need to roll.

What happens to these kids will ultimately fall on them. They made the mistake (supposedly) and THE UNIVERSITY caught them. That I understand, but don't you even DARE take the team down with them. That would be about as disgraceful as you can get.

yep...you've made yourself pretty clear.
 

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Why is Phillip Daniels so quiet?

He and Koon are huddled in the back of a van that looks like a telephone company vehicle, outside of Jack Swarbrick's house. And all the damn neighbors have their wifis passworded!
 

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I want to make this very clear. Vacating wins is not. an. option. If the university is seriously considering vacating wins, then I want all involved parties in that process fired immediately. The admin has already reached the point of no return, but if the university actually thinks that vacating wins is anything but a completely brainless idea, then heads need to roll.

What happens to these kids will ultimately fall on them. They made the mistake (supposedly) and THE UNIVERSITY caught them. That I understand, but don't you even DARE take the team down with them. That would be about as disgraceful as you can get.

Better get your YouTube podcast ready for this, Sean. I'm sure you have it recorded and everything already.
 

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He and Koon are huddled in the back of a van that looks like a telephone company vehicle, outside of Jack Swarbrick's house. And all the damn neighbors have their wifis passworded!
I actually can envision that
 

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If they don't come back I hope they were honest with the rest of the team. In other words, I hope they weren't telling all their teammates that would definitely be found innocent because that's what will kill the team morale more than anything.
 

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If they don't come back I hope they were honest with the rest of the team. In other words, I hope they weren't telling all their teammates that would definitely be found innocent because that's what will kill the team morale more than anything.

I believe KVR already Instagrammed words to that effect.


Whatever, this latest 'news' is probably bullshit too.
 

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I want to make this very clear. Vacating wins is not. an. option. If the university is seriously considering vacating wins, then I want all involved parties in that process fired immediately. The admin has already reached the point of no return, but if the university actually thinks that vacating wins is anything but a completely brainless idea, then heads need to roll.

What happens to these kids will ultimately fall on them. They made the mistake (supposedly) and THE UNIVERSITY caught them. That I understand, but don't you even DARE take the team down with them. That would be about as disgraceful as you can get.

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