Racism

[SeekNDestroy]

World history/civilization seems to be a college thing, unfortunately.

I took world civ in high school but it mostly focused on the western world. If I remember correctly, Egypt was really the only history taught outside of Europe.

 

[SeekNDestroy]

To be fair, though, when the ancestors of a majority of your students, as well as the primary culture of your country come from Europe, why would you expect different? When I was in HS we touched on most or all of the things you mentioned, but you don't have the time to cover every topic and culture and country and people in depth. You focus on the ones most relevant to the majority of your students. How much in-depth US or European history do you think they teach in Mongolia, The Congo, or Yemen?

I definitely agree with the time constraints. I just disagree with so much ‘whitewashing.’

 

[Bluto]

World history/civilization seems to be a college thing, unfortunately.

That’s kind of the point.

To be fair, though, when the ancestors of a majority of your students, as well as the primary culture of your country come from Europe, why would you expect different? When I was in HS we touched on most or all of the things you mentioned, but you don't have the time to cover every topic and culture and country and people in depth. You focus on the ones most relevant to the majority of your students. How much in-depth US or European history do you think they teach in Mongolia, The Congo, or Yemen?

I personally don’t care what is taught in Mongolia, ect…and nobody mentioned “every culture”.

As to the whole “the majority” was from Europe, well ok then teach a fucking accurate history of Europe. The Iberian Peninsula was Muslim for 700 years more or less for cryin out loud, never mind the mongols, Huns and Turks (who have more in common historically, politically and culturally with most Europeans than say the House of Saud).

As far as US history, what was presented to myself was a bunch of bullshit that only presented selective narratives. The presentation of the industrial period was particularly egregious in that there was little if any mention of how divided the country was, how shitty working conditions were, how industry controlled damn near everything and how violent things got.

Not enough time? High school is four years with another eight leading up to that.

Now, what I would expect in any teaching of history is a history taught from multiple perspectives and multiple narratives which at the end of the day presents a wonderful opportunity to demonstrate how interconnected we all are and always have been.

Unfortunately what I was presented with was linear, great man, WASP bullshit that more often than not devolved into a cheerleading session for dudes from Europe.

 

[Sea Turtle]

That’s kind of the point.

I personally don’t care what is taught in Mongolia, ect…and nobody mentioned “every culture”.

As to the whole “the majority” was from Europe, well ok then teach a fucking accurate history of Europe. The Iberian Peninsula was Muslim for 700 years more or less for cryin out loud, never mind the mongols, Huns and Turks (who have more in common historically, politically and culturally with most Europeans than say the House of Saud).

As far as US history, what was presented to myself was a bunch of bullshit that only presented selective narratives. The presentation of the industrial period was particularly egregious in that there was little if any mention of how divided the country was, how shitty working conditions were, how industry controlled damn near everything and how violent things got.

Not enough time? High school is four years with another eight leading up to that.

Now, what I would expect in any teaching of history is a history taught from multiple perspectives and multiple narratives which at the end of the day presents a wonderful opportunity to demonstrate how interconnected we all are and always have been.

Unfortunately what I was presented with was linear, great man, WASP bullshit that more often than not devolved into a cheerleading session for dudes from Europe.

Yep. The Moops invaded Spain in the 8th century.

 

[drayer54]

😂

 

[GATTACA!]

😂

What an apt name.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

 

[jprue24]

Florida Prosecutor's 'Racism Policy' Leaked

An attorney whistleblower from State Attorney Jack Campbell’s office alleges widespread racism throughout Jefferson County office.

ourtallahassee.com

 

[GATTACA!]

Come on that's just a little locker room talk between the guys.

 

[drayer54]

How would this be perceived differently had it been a white teenager? We have a cultural problem.

 

[Rockin’Irish]

How would this be perceived differently had it been a white teenager? We have a cultural problem.

No entitlement sentiments from that young lady, proud of her.

 

[drayer54]

Notorious racist finds out

 

[SeekNDestroy]

Notorious racist finds out

If only you’d read more than the completely made up headline. Absolute fake news and I don’t even like the race baiter.

 

[Irish#1]

WA's first director of equity was fired after saying she didn't trust Mexicans because they could choose to be white, among other indiscretions | Blaze Media

Dr. Karen Johnson was fired as the first director of the "Office of Equity" for Washington state after she made derogatory comments about Mexicans and other people, including white people. Those were some of the revelations found in an investigation by the Washington State Office of Financial...

www.theblaze.com

 

[drayer54]

WA's first director of equity was fired after saying she didn't trust Mexicans because they could choose to be white, among other indiscretions | Blaze Media

Dr. Karen Johnson was fired as the first director of the "Office of Equity" for Washington state after she made derogatory comments about Mexicans and other people, including white people. Those were some of the revelations found in an investigation by the Washington State Office of Financial...

www.theblaze.com

Isn’t that what Equity folks do? Seems par for the course to me.

 

[drayer54]

This should fix it.

 

[Blazers46]

This should fix it.

When will people realize racism is a hustle

 

[GoIrish41]

When will people realize racism is a hustle

Right after people stop going into grocery stores, WalMarts, churches and synagogues to kill minorities.

 

[ulukinatme]

Right after people stop going into grocery stores, WalMarts, churches and synagogues to kill minorities.

Based on data from the Department of Justice and the Violence Project you're talking about a small minority of mash shootings. Not saying they're right by any means, but I've been told here recently that when something happens infrequently it's not a concern and just a point of faux outrage. Are we now saying that's incorrect?

According to the numbers from the Department of Justice, white people account for 45.3% of all homicides while making up 82.9% of the population, while black people account for 52.5% of homicides while only making up 12.6% of the population. The victims 50.3% of the time are white, while 47.4% of the victims are black. While they're just a fraction of the population, black people are disproportionally shooting other people at a far greater rate than white people, and there's slightly more white people getting shot. So is it only racism when it's a white shooter?

 

[TorontoGold]

Based on data from the Department of Justice and the Violence Project you're talking about a small minority of mash shootings. Not saying they're right by any means, but I've been told here recently that when something happens infrequently it's not a concern and just a point of faux outrage. Are we now saying that's incorrect?

According to the numbers from the Department of Justice, white people account for 45.3% of all homicides while making up 82.9% of the population, while black people account for 52.5% of homicides while only making up 12.6% of the population. The victims 50.3% of the time are white, while 47.4% of the victims are black. While they're just a fraction of the population, black people are disproportionally shooting other people at a far greater rate than white people, and there's slightly more white people getting shot. So is it only racism when it's a white shooter?

When it's something that the "treatment" for it is much worse than the actual "damage" - yes it is faux outrage. Apples and oranges here.

To GI41's point I would make the case that it's more over policing, rather than targeted shootings by white people. I would refine the idea that it's white people killing black people since as you pointed out the over representation by black people does not show that to be the case (open to be proven wrong).

I think the argument that many should be making is that the law enforcement system is setup in a way that protects the capital owners rather than the general population, in that if you have means you can get favorable treatment. It becomes a "race thing" as there is historical precedent and systemic parts that feel like it's more targeted towards black communities, but if you're a poor white person it's really not all that different. Being poor sucks and I don't think 99% of the population cares if you're black/white.

 

[ulukinatme]

When it's something that the "treatment" for it is much worse than the actual "damage" - yes it is faux outrage. Apples and oranges here.

To GI41's point I would make the case that it's more over policing, rather than targeted shootings by white people. I would refine the idea that it's white people killing black people since as you pointed out the over representation by black people does not show that to be the case (open to be proven wrong).

I think the argument that many should be making is that the law enforcement system is setup in a way that protects the capital owners rather than the general population, in that if you have means you can get favorable treatment. It becomes a "race thing" as there is historical precedent and systemic parts that feel like it's more targeted towards black communities, but if you're a poor white person it's really not all that different. Being poor sucks and I don't think 99% of the population cares if you're black/white.

I think you've hit the nail on the head in the last bit. While there certainly still is a racism issue in this country, the difference between the have's and the have not's can be large. The bigger issue is a class war. It's typically not the well off family man pulling the trigger, it's the guy scraping by who just got fired, or the man struggling due to past abuse, etc. The family man will get special treatment more often than not.

 

[RDU Irish]

Based on data from the Department of Justice and the Violence Project you're talking about a small minority of mash shootings. Not saying they're right by any means, but I've been told here recently that when something happens infrequently it's not a concern and just a point of faux outrage. Are we now saying that's incorrect?

According to the numbers from the Department of Justice, white people account for 45.3% of all homicides while making up 82.9% of the population, while black people account for 52.5% of homicides while only making up 12.6% of the population. The victims 50.3% of the time are white, while 47.4% of the victims are black. While they're just a fraction of the population, black people are disproportionally shooting OTHER BLACK people at a far greater rate than white people, and there's slightly more white people getting shot. So is it only racism when it's a white shooter?

FIFY

 

[drayer54]

Based on data from the Department of Justice and the Violence Project you're talking about a small minority of mash shootings. Not saying they're right by any means, but I've been told here recently that when something happens infrequently it's not a concern and just a point of faux outrage. Are we now saying that's incorrect?

According to the numbers from the Department of Justice, white people account for 45.3% of all homicides while making up 82.9% of the population, while black people account for 52.5% of homicides while only making up 12.6% of the population. The victims 50.3% of the time are white, while 47.4% of the victims are black. While they're just a fraction of the population, black people are disproportionally shooting other people at a far greater rate than white people, and there's slightly more white people getting shot. So is it only racism when it's a white shooter?

Yes- that’s why the media zooms in on the incidents that support the agenda. 5 major mass shootings by transgender this year, but they are still clearly the victims. Black committed violence is statistically dominant, but not on the media coverage or debate.

 

[Bishop2b5]

When will people realize racism is a hustle

Some people have known it for ages.

"There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs -- partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs." - Booker T. Washington

"There is a certain class of race problem-solvers who don't want the patient to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to make themselves prominent before the public." - Booker T. Washington

"Racism is not dead, but it is on life support -- kept alive by politicians, race hustlers and people who get a sense of superiority by denouncing others as racists." - Thomas Sowell

 

[GoIrish41]

^ not racist. 🙄

 

[Irish#1]

^ not racist. 🙄

All this time I always thought Booker T. Washington was black!

 

[Bishop2b5]

All this time I always thought Booker T. Washington was black!

Sowell and Washington aren't allowed to speak for Blacks. They don't follow the narrative. Only white libs know what's best for black people today.

 

[GoIrish41]

All this time I always thought Booker T. Washington was black!

I’m not talking about Booker T. Washington. I’m talking about the rednecks who find one quote in a sea of grievances and offer it as definitive proof that racism is a “hustle.” They are the same goobers who piss your pants at the notion that Black Lives Matter or when someone wants to teach their kids how profoundly racist their grandparents were.

 

[Bishop2b5]

I’m not talking about Booker T. Washington. I’m talking about the rednecks who find one quote in a sea of grievances and offer it as definitive proof that racism is a “hustle.” They are the same goobers who piss your pants at the notion that Black Lives Matter or when someone wants to teach their kids how profoundly racist their grandparents were.

Serious question, 41: is this a calculated routine to virtue signal to the other fools, or are you genuinely this misinformed? Bitter nonsense is a poor substitute for intelligent observation and discussion. Seriously, over the past two years, you've seemed to go out of your way to spout some of the most ridiculous, misinformed, bitter tripe on the internet.

Calling everyone who disagrees with you a racist, fascist, redneck, dickhead, asshole, bigot, or any of the other names you enjoy tossing about doesn't hurt anyone's feelings. It just makes you look incapable of genuine debate or serious thought. You're wrong about virtually ALL of the issues we discuss. Demonstrably wrong. Ridiculously wrong. And you get mad when we rebut your silly nonsense. Get some better ideas, educate yourself instead of gullibly swallowing and then parroting the factually wrong nonsense you see on MSNBC, and bring something of substance to the discussions instead of this shallow butthurt drivel.

 

[GoIrish41]

Serious question, 41: is this a calculated routine to virtue signal to the other fools, or are you genuinely this misinformed? Bitter nonsense is a poor substitute for intelligent observation and discussion. Seriously, over the past two years, you've seemed to go out of your way to spout some of the most ridiculous, misinformed, bitter tripe on the internet.

Calling everyone who disagrees with you a racist, fascist, redneck, dickhead, asshole, bigot, or any of the other names you enjoy tossing about doesn't hurt anyone's feelings. It just makes you look incapable of genuine debate or serious thought. You're wrong about virtually ALL of the issues we discuss. Demonstrably wrong. Ridiculously wrong. And you get mad when we rebut your silly nonsense. Get some better ideas, educate yourself instead of gullibly swallowing and then parroting the factually wrong nonsense you see on MSNBC, and bring something of substance to the discussions instead of this shallow butthurt drivel.

In fairness, I’ve not called everyone who disagrees with me a racist, fascist, asshole, bigot, etc. … only those such as you who advertise it through their posts. And it isn’t because you disagree with me. I legitimately believe you are a racist who eagerly joins on to defend racist ideas like “racism is a hustle.” I legitimately believe you are a fascist because you refuse to acknowledge and lukewarm defend those who participated in a violent political coup designed to reverse the results of an election and are a devout culture warrior who cannot help offering his “insight” on everything while belittling anyone who has a more empathetic sensibility to the world. I legitimately think you are an asshole. Your views betray the hue of your neck. You are a dickhead! Don’t water it down like I’m spreading it to “everyone who disagrees with me.” Everyone earns their own merit badges!