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Jiggafini19Deux when a republican president has members in his administration that worked at a conservative think tank

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The only people that are surprised are the idiots that believed Trump's lies about not being connected to it or knowing anything about it.
 

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I mean here's the thing - Trump himself did not work on it or probably have much input on it. He's not a policy wonk. However the Heritage Foundation was largely influential in his first admin and will be largely influential in this admin.

My biggest gripe was the boogeyman mentality that the left had about this thing and the straight up lies they had about the contents of it.
 

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The only people that are surprised are the idiots that believed Trump's lies about not being connected to it or knowing anything about it.
I’m only surprised that idiots are upset about this. The left found this think tank document that Trump literally had nothing to do with and thought it was extreme, so they tried to tie him to it. They made it their talking point and it didn’t really land, IMHO. I don’t know a single republican who gives a shit about it. I would be stunned to see anyone in the Trump WH even reference it. But you are acting like it is the right wing communist manifesto and they all worship it. Recall that while Trump was banging the drum on his talking points about the border-inflation-security-they/them that this was really all the left had. It’s a bizzare thing to cling to.
 

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Jigga is just trying to stir the pot. If you hadn't noticed, even though we had the new Trump thread, he kept posting in the old Trump thread so his posts would get noticed. Then, it was closed (I'm assuming by Lax) so now instead of posting in the current Trump thread, he's posting in the election thread to get noticed.
 

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I’m only surprised that idiots are upset about this. The left found this think tank document that Trump literally had nothing to do with and thought it was extreme, so they tried to tie him to it. They made it their talking point and it didn’t really land, IMHO. I don’t know a single republican who gives a shit about it. I would be stunned to see anyone in the Trump WH even reference it. But you are acting like it is the right wing communist manifesto and they all worship it. Recall that while Trump was banging the drum on his talking points about the border-inflation-security-they/them that this was really all the left had. It’s a bizzare thing to cling to.
Why would republicans give a shit about it? They agree with it.
 

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The only people that are surprised are the idiots that believed Trump's lies about not being connected to it or knowing anything about it.
Trummmmmmmmpppp!

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This is gonna be a long miserable four years for you! 🤣
 
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Garbage party. Dem’s somehow screwed themselves over…. twice. That’s almost impressive.
 

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Garbage party. Dem’s somehow screwed themselves over…. twice. That’s almost impressive.
What is funny is that prior to the election, our lefty friends kept saying the Repubs were out of touch.
 

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What is funny is that prior to the election, our lefty friends kept saying the Repubs were out of touch.
They floated her with the media and pretended she was perfect. Glad she fell flat on her face and now we have a transparent administration.



 

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You got mad when I said the same thing in the weeks leading up to the election.
I was very loudly against her being picked and predicted she would lose if she was. Polling looked better than I had expected but I never liked her as a candidate.
 

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Dodged a bullet.


The producer asks the interviewer to re-ask the question because they wanted a clearer version of what he asked and then said they needed 30 seconds of silence. You literally hear it in the audio.

Dear lord.
 

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The producer asks the interviewer to re-ask the question because they wanted a clearer version of what he asked and then said they needed 30 seconds of silence. You literally hear it in the audio.

Dear lord.
That's not the answer we want. Let's pause for a second.
 

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That's not what happened, and that's not even what that tweet was implying.

I mean, the video speaks for itself, does it not? She had plenty of time to come up with a good answer during that pause and she delivered a steaming pile of shit as she stumbled over her words. Can you imagine if she was live and got a question like that, or got a question while hosting a foreign leader? She struggled to think on her feet, and she struggled with interviews in general. When she was announced as the new candidate she had to disappear for over a month as they coached her up. She was not prepared to handle that job.
 

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I mean, the video speaks for itself, does it not? She had plenty of time to come up with a good answer during that pause and she delivered a steaming pile of shit as she stumbled over her words. Can you imagine if she was live and got a question like that, or got a question while hosting a foreign leader? She struggled to think on her feet, and she struggled with interviews in general. When she was announced as the new candidate she had to disappear for over a month as they coached her up. She was not prepared to handle that job.
She’s expounding on the answer she gave to the question the first time. The interviewer knew what she was talking about.
 

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I listened to the whole interview and really nothing that she said was damning or that bad. Which makes you question why they didn't just release this in the first place? I'm assuming they had an agreement beforehand with the Harris campaign that nothing would come out without their explicit review and agreement. I swear, I don't think Kamala is naturally an unlikable person and think she would be fun to get wine drunk with. The DNC machine that she inherited was so accustomed to having to work in the shadows and puppet Biden around to hide who he truly was, and Kamala wasn't confident enough to tell them to shove it and do and say what she wanted.
 

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She’s expounding on the answer she gave to the question the first time. The interviewer knew what she was talking about.

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Ok, I'm sorry. The American people would have loved to have their taxes increased as she suggested so we can pay for more bullshit that we don't need. I see the light now, Kamala was an excellent candidate, and it's clear that racism in this country is the only reason she failed to win the White House. It had nothing to do with policy, ability, or the results of that last four years under the Biden/Harris administration. Thanks for helping me see the truth.
 

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Ok, I'm sorry. The American people would have loved to have their taxes increased as she suggested so we can pay for more bullshit that we don't need. I see the light now, Kamala was an excellent candidate, and it's clear that racism in this country is the only reason she failed to win the White House. It had nothing to do with policy, ability, or the results of that last four years under the Biden/Harris administration. Thanks for helping me see the truth.
I'm not sure what you're even mad about at this point? Your side won. Move on.

The tweet was factually wrong.
 

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I listened to the whole interview and really nothing that she said was damning or that bad. Which makes you question why they didn't just release this in the first place? I'm assuming they had an agreement beforehand with the Harris campaign that nothing would come out without their explicit review and agreement. I swear, I don't think Kamala is naturally an unlikable person and think she would be fun to get wine drunk with. The DNC machine that she inherited was so accustomed to having to work in the shadows and puppet Biden around to hide who he truly was, and Kamala wasn't confident enough to tell them to shove it and do and say what she wanted.
Is it common to release full interviews with boring behind the scenes stuff included?
 

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Is it common to release full interviews with boring behind the scenes stuff included?
No, but I think the entire content of discussion should normally be released. The candidates full an unedited response should be publicly available by the media outlet. If you chose not to air the unedited version on TV to cut out filler, that's fine I guess, but not releasing it and refusing to release it when called upon to is sketchy at best.
 

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Pennsylvania Democratic Sen. John Fetterman agreed that his party’s brand has grown "toxic" after years of "shaming and scolding" voters and even questioned if they can turn it around.

While appearing on the "Somebody’s Gotta Win" podcast on Thursday, host and journalist Tara Palmeri asked Fetterman about how even insiders within the Democratic Party acknowledged the damage their image has taken since the 2024 election.

Fetterman reiterated his belief that the party did it to itself by constantly attacking and demeaning their opponents.

"I think their primary currency was shaming and scolding and talking down to people and telling them ‘Hey, I know better than you, or you’re dopes, or you’re a bro, or you’re ignorant or, how can you be this dumb? I can’t imagine it. And then, by the way, they’re fascists. How can you vote for that?’" Fetterman said.
He's exactly right, and I don't see much indication that anyone on the left learned this lesson. They seem to be continuing the same mistake. I'm sure it'll work better next election, though!
 

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He's exactly right, and I don't see much indication that anyone on the left learned this lesson. They seem to be continuing the same mistake. I'm sure it'll work better next election, though!

The stroke survivor proving once again he's the smartest Democrat in Congress. I think it's going to take more Fettermans getting elected, or it's going to take a lot of Trump screw ups over the next four years before liberals right the ship. The rest are playing by the same set of rules and standards that got them in the hole to begin with.
 

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I'm not sure what you're even mad about at this point? Your side won. Move on.

The tweet was factually wrong.

The tweet was kinda of irrelevant, the video said enough. The guy asked how she was going to pay for the awesome plan she was suggesting. She fired back "raising taxes" and stumbled all over her words. It's pretty obvious she was not the candidate we needed, and it's no surprise that CBS cut content like that. She wasn't going to win any voters with that answer. That was the Kamala people should have gotten to see, but instead they propped her up and made her look better than she was.

You're the one that fired back defending her, you could have let it go. I'm not mad about anything, I'm quite happy the way things happened. I've moved on, it just happened that the full CBS footage just got released and it further underlined that we made the right choice.
 
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