Post Game Thoughts

[loomis41973]

I was never one to doubt Charlie until today. I thought not kicking the field goal in the 1st quarter was a bad idea. But when he went for it in the 4th quarter i left the game in protest. WHO IN THE MAKES THAT CALL?????? I reall dont know how to feel right now....other than sorry for the players

 

[wahoo]

It would have been nice to try and see if he could have won it in regulation. It wasn't a chip-shot but it was makeable. Thring to stop the option in OT is putting a lot of pressure on the defense

 

[kmoose]

I can't defend him anymore. I'm not willing to jump on the "Weis is a BAD coach bandwagon", but this loss is clearly on Charlie.

1. It was obvious, as earlier as the first quarter, that Navy was giving up 5-6 yards a pop, on runs up the middle. But Charlie refused to take advantage of that obvious weakness until the 4th quarter.

2. The two non field goal decisions. It's not like it was 4th and 1 or 2.

 

[BeatSC]

Poor Kids

Poor Kids

I feel bad for the team. They played Ok, but they don't make the decisions. CW is a high school coach and it's now showing. The team for the past 2 years were playing in cruise control. Not sure what to think at this point. I don't think Sharpley did anything the Clausen couldn't have done better. His passes were slow and late. He also finally had the benefit of a running gem and showed little from it. I'm sorry none of Ty's teams or Fausts teams looked anywhere this bad. Can we get a kicker to kick the ball inside the 10, forget that they can't make a field goal. This didn't need to happen.

 

[Irish Legend]

I was never one to doubt Charlie until today. I thought not kicking the field goal in the 1st quarter was a bad idea. But when he went for it in the 4th quarter i left the game in protest. WHO IN THE MAKES THAT CALL?????? I reall dont know how to feel right now....other than sorry for the players

Exactly! Way to go Charlie!!!! Great play calling! Go for it on 4th down at the end of regulation, instead of trying a game winning FG? Then to run then ball on the two point conversion?
This has been a terrible year of play calling for Charlie!

Please don't comeback with stupid comments on how Charlie made the right decisions because you would be making a fool of yourself.
Yes, Charlie is going to turn this thing around in the next few years but for right now with this team he is making poor play calling decisions.

 

[BeatSC]

Charlie Needs to be criticized!

Charlie Needs to be criticized!

I don't typically like piling on but this guy has been given a huge contract (prematurely) and he should have to deal with the slings and arrows that come with it. I only hope that we don't lose any recruits. This is the only thing keeping Charlie employed. Also, Evan is not the answer next year...period.

 

[patman1868]

Exactly! Way to go Charlie!!!! Great play calling! Go for it on 4th down at the end of regulation, instead of trying a game winning FG? Then to run then ball on the two point conversion?
This has been a terrible year of play calling for Charlie!

Please don't comeback with stupid comments on how Charlie made the right decisions because you would be making a fool of yourself.
Yes, Charlie is going to turn this thing around in the next few years but for right now with this team he is making poor play calling decisions.

I dont see what was wrong with running it on the two point conversion. The team had had success running it from there the whole game. I have no problem with that call.

 

[notredomer23]

Obviously I am pissed

Obviously I am pissed

but i think something good may have came from this. I think our team will play with a huge chip on their shoulders next year after hearing things such as: "the only losers to lose to navy, or the worst team ND has ever had". Now am i saying we are going to win the NC next year? NO. Am i saying we have a chance to win 8 or 9 games next year. YES. What say you?

 

[GoshenGipper]

I'm not willing to jump on the "Weis is a BAD coach bandwagon", but this loss is clearly on Charlie.

Those are my thoughts too. ND should have won that game in regulation. If Walker missed, then oh well, you made the right call and you still go into overtime. If he makes it you win and it gives the kid some confidence. The same goes for the 4th and 15 in the 1st half. The thing about it that really makes me question the call is hw long the down and distance were on both of them, 4th and 15 and 4th and 8. I also didn't like the decision to use TT down on the goal line at the end of the game. Go with JA or RH, they had done fine earlier. I too feel bad for the players, especially the Sr.s

 

[ACamp1900]

until today I thought 8-9 games was possible... it'll take an epic tunraround now....

 

[patman1868]

yeah I see what you are saying it makes some sense. Also with as bad as we have been this year better to lose to navy now when we have no chance at a bowl, than losing to them and ruining our shots at a bcs bowl or something like that in the future. Im not happy about seeing the team lose, but that is how I look at it.

 

[SoCalDomer]

I don't typically like piling on but this guy has been given a huge contract (prematurely) and he should have to deal with the slings and arrows that come with it.

The administration should ask him to renegotiate to a lower salary until he starts winning. Seriously.

 

[ACamp1900]

yeah I see what you are saying it makes some sense. Also with as bad as we have been this year better to lose to navy now when we have no chance at a bowl, than losing to them and ruining our shots at a bcs bowl or something like that in the future. Im not happy about seeing the team lose, but that is how I look at it.

decent perspective

 

[CNY_Domer]

Charlie made some critical errors in coaching today i.e. non field goal attempts. However, the offense did score 28 points. I wonder if this is the first time CB coached against a triple opt. it appeared that there was some half time adjustments to take away the option. But, ND was getting killed up the middle. However, no adjustments were made or even attempted.

 

[notredomer23]

if anybody jumps ship after this go right ahead. We wont pull you back in 2 years. This is where the line is drawn. This game is going to take out the real fans and the "fans"

 

[NDFan4Life]

Those are my thoughts too. ND should have won that game in regulation. If Walker missed, then oh well, you made the right call and you still go into overtime. If he makes it you win and it gives the kid some confidence. The same goes for the 4th and 15 in the 1st half. The thing about it that really makes me question the call is hw long the down and distance were on both of them, 4th and 15 and 4th and 8. I also didn't like the decision to use TT down on the goal line at the end of the game. Go with JA or RH, they had done fine earlier. I too feel bad for the players, especially the Sr.s

My thoughts exactly, GG. Thank you.

BTW, looks like IrishOrange picked a bad time to come in and stir the pot.

 

[NDFan4Life]

if anybody jumps ship after this go right ahead. We wont pull you back in 2 years. This is where the line is drawn. This game is going to take out the real fans and the "fans"

I like your style, 23.

I'm not going anywhere, though.

 

[Junkhead]

I like your style, 23.

I'm not going anywhere, though.

I'm trying to find some kool-aid. No such luck. Maybe in a few days.

 

[SouthernIrish]

if anybody jumps ship after this go right ahead. We wont pull you back in 2 years. This is where the line is drawn. This game is going to take out the real fans and the "fans"

absolutely.

i am leaving right now to go do some shoe shopping therapy and am wearing my ND sweatshirt.

 

[GoshenGipper]

My thoughts exactly, GG. Thank you.

BTW, looks like IrishOrange picked a bad time to come in and stir the pot.

He's just a Tennessee flamer and he probably should have been gone a long time ago. I certainly wasn't about to put up with any crap from him.

 

[loomis41973]

Im not going anywhere as a fan either. Just not sucking up the kool-aid anymore. THat was the most horrific playcalling i have ever seen. Going for on twice on forth and long in FG range. Abondoning the run at critical times. Thomas and AS in the backfield on the goaline? The 2 non fieldgoal attemts where TecmoBowl easy calls. He has made very questionable calls during his whole time at ND if you think about it.

 

[GoshenGipper]

if anybody jumps ship after this go right ahead. We wont pull you back in 2 years. This is where the line is drawn. This game is going to take out the real fans and the "fans"

I agree, great post! I've been saying this all year. Bandwagon fans don't cut it and if you can't support the team when times are bad, no matter how bad they get, then you don't deserve to share in the celebration when they're able to turn things around.

 

[NDFan4Life]

I'm trying to find some kool-aid. No such luck. Maybe in a few days.

Do what I do. Kool-aid is not required.

Buy a 12 pack of Bud and a bottle of tequila. It's guaranteed to make you forget all about the game.

 

[kmoose]

I mentioned, earlier this week, that I would be paying close attention not to who was successful in this game, but to who wasn't. Based on that, here are my observations:

1. The defensive line got almost NO penetration all day. Penetration is HUGE to disrupting the option offense. It stuffs the fullback if he gets the ball, it forces the QB to pitch early, and it can even account for some turnovers. I know that Navy is a well disciplined team, but our D linemen should have been able to blow them off the ball and into the backfield.

2. Our linebackers are terrible. The two freshmen are playing well, for true freshmen. But they still aren't anywhere near GOOD college linebackers. Crum makes a lot of tackles, but 97% of them are five yards downfield.

3. Sharpley showed why he is not a starting QB in D-IA football....his accuracy is bad, he doesn't feel pressure well, he doesn't protect the ball in the pocket, and the one run that got blown up in the backfield was entirely his fault. In watching the replay, it's obvious that the D-lineman was left free, to be picked up by the TE coming in motion. Sharpley called the snap count too early, and the TE couldn't get there in time, leaving the guy completely free.

4. Even taking the two 4th down decisions out of the equation, the Irish were outcoached. Especially in the OT periods. In the third overtime, the Midshipmen came out throwing, and ND was in no way prepared for either the TD pass, or the 2 pt. conversion pass.

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

I am completely disgusted.

 

[ackirl]

I can rationalize that the team wasn’t as talented as USC or LSU, but things were going to get better. I understand that the team wasn’t as experienced as most of the opponents this year, but things were going to get better. This was an extremely difficult schedule compared to ranked team such as Hawaii or South Florida, but things were going to get better.

This devastating loss makes no sense and seemed preventable.

 

[SoCalDomer]

Do what I do. Kool-aid is not required.

Buy a 12 pack of Bud and a bottle of tequila. It's guaranteed to make you forget all about the game.

And other things like your name and not to pee in your pants. grin:

 

[WaveDomer]

BTW running AA out wide before a possible game winner is just not done. That seems like hash mark 101 to me. All said, the offense did play well today. Sharpley needs to learn how to both avoid and to take a sack. The fumble return was the game.

 

[SoCalDomer]

I mentioned, earlier this week, that I would be paying close attention not to who was successful in this game, but to who wasn't. Based on that, here are my observations:

(I didn't think I needed to fully quote you just to say good analysis) Good analysis.

 

[GoIrish41]

if anybody jumps ship after this go right ahead. We wont pull you back in 2 years. This is where the line is drawn. This game is going to take out the real fans and the "fans"

I'm with you on not jumping ship notredomer23.

As to earlier posts. I'm as pro-Weis as anyone there is, but I'm with all who said 'I can no longer defend him.' The decision not to kick the FG at the end of regulation was not only the worst call he ever made, it is probably the worst football decision I have ever seen. Even if your kicker is 50-50, you gotta take that chance. The result of the play would either have been a win or had the exact same result as going for it and missing.

Also, if your average HS coach would have been wearing the headset today, Aldridge and Allen would have had 200 yards each, and Hughes would have had another 100. It was so obvious that they couldn't stop the run inside the tackles. Why do anything else.

Sorry Charlie, this game was all on. I'll start defending you again when you stop making decisions like those.

:banghead2