Post Game Observations (Wake Forest '15)...

[arrowryan]

trumbetti interception for a TD was good too....

Oh yeah I forgot about that

 

[irishff1014]

There were 2 entertaining things that happened in the game...

1.) The 98 yard TD run

2.) The marshmallow fight we had in the student section

Other than that, it was the most boring home game of the year

The marshmallow fight on TV was annoying.

 

[kmoose]

There were 2 entertaining things that happened in the game...

1.) The 98 yard TD run

2.) The marshmallow fight we had in the student section

Other than that, it was the most boring home game of the year

No offense, ryan, but this is probably what is most "wrong" with Notre Dame football. You get 6, maybe 7 chances each year to witness a Notre Dame win in Notre Dame stadium. If that's not exciting enough for you, then maybe you don't really get what it is all about.

 

[Classic Irish]

Beautiful, sunny day yesterday. You couldn't have asked for better weather for a football Saturday in South Bend in November.

The best part of the day: my sister (ND class of 1981) turning to me and asking me if the Demon Deacon mascot was Mr. Peanut.

 

[arrowryan]

The marshmallow fight on TV was annoying.

Lol I'm sure it was! I could not walk because my shoes stuck to the marshmallows that were on the ground

No offense, ryan, but this is probably what is most "wrong" with Notre Dame football. You get 6, maybe 7 chances each year to witness a Notre Dame win in Notre Dame stadium. If that's not exciting enough for you, then maybe you don't really get what it is all about.

Don't get me wrong, I very much enjoyed the game as it was my last one as a student. But I went to every home game this year and, out of all the home games, it was the least entertaining

 

[Booslum31]

Does it mean that we have "arrived" when we are dissatisfied with a 21 point win? I heard the sports channels saying things like "ND taking care of business" or "ND getting it done". We had multiple people get some reps that needed them and others that got to take some plays off. I think I'm in the minority that thinks we did what we needed to. The coaches will work on the areas that were flat yesterday and we will be ready for BC.

 

[kmoose]

Don't get me wrong, I very much enjoyed the game as it was my last one as a student. But I went to every home game this year and, out of all the home games, it was the least entertaining

This was the first year in about 7 or 8 years that I did NOT get to a game, so I'm probably just a little bit salty about people who got to attend all of the home games.

I understand what you meant, now, though. Congratulations in advance of your presumed graduation.

 

[GowerND11]

Wake Forest took the ball out of our hands. They essentially deflated it and said play defense. It's hard to get our passing game going when we only have the ball for basically a quarter. If anyone has noticed, we are very much a rhythm team. So not being able to get into that rhythm really stalled us.

Second, they blanketed Fuller all night. It's tough to get him the ball when they are doing that. I thought that Kizer made good decisions to not force it to him, but instead take what the defense gave him.

I'm not too worried about this game, not many teams are going to take the air out of the ball in college football today.

 

[IrishLion]

There were 2 entertaining things that happened in the game...

1.) The 98 yard TD run

2.) The marshmallow fight we had in the student section

Other than that, it was the most boring home game of the year

Thanks for the almost 15-yard penalty you hooligan.

 

[irishfanjho15]

I was at the game and the marshmallow crap was ridiculous. I'm all for good fun but it was being thrown on the field and was hitting the players and coaches. That's not cool.

 

[Irish#1]

Does it mean that we have "arrived" when we are dissatisfied with a 21 point win? I heard the sports channels saying things like "ND taking care of business" or "ND getting it done". We had multiple people get some reps that needed them and others that got to take some plays off. I think I'm in the minority that thinks we did what we needed to. The coaches will work on the areas that were flat yesterday and we will be ready for BC.

To much emotion for Senior Day led to inconsistent play IMO.

 

[phgreek]

Holy hyperbole Batman! A)We haven't played with anyone named Prossise all year long, but we have had a guy named Prosise and he has been pretty good.
B)I know BC's defense is legit but to think we won't win without Prosise? Crazy talk. We may not win with "style points" but how is BC going to score? I expect a similar outcome to this Saturday next Saturday. A lot of salty ND fans moaning about "style points" after a 3 TD victory.

halfback pass...probably score on like the 3rd one they try...

 

[phgreek]

I was at the game and the marshmallow crap was ridiculous. I'm all for good fun but it was being thrown on the field and was hitting the players and coaches. That's not cool.

agree

...so what jackass decides to throw a wad of marshmallows on the field during the game?

Man...wanna see purple face...let ND get a penalty for that crap.

It happened multiple times...does no one work security?

 

[phgreek]

1. Screw the spread, screw the committee. Just win, baby! And we did. Not the prettiest win, but still a convincing one.

2. Wake Forest had 4 trips inside the Red Zone, coming away with one score; a touchdown. ND had 2 trips inside the Red Zone, coming away with two scores; both touchowns. Winning the Red Zone is a nice improvement for this team.

3. ND played a lot of young guys, which might explain some of the struggles. Also, looking at the participation report, it looks like a lot of the seniors got a chance to get in, as well. Guys like Turner, Ossello, Cavalaris, Daly; all got reps tonight.

4. Considering that we started a true freshman RB, putting up 28 points is not such a bad thing. I'm sure they COULD have done better, but they did win rather easily. Which leads me into my next observation:

5. It seems like this offense sometimes goes into "cruise mode", when they get an early lead. The coaches don't seem to let it last that long, but it does seem like it allows opponents an opportunity to keep it closer than it should be.

6. The Offensive Line seemed to have an off night. It seemed like I saw a lot more D Linemen in the backfield than at any other time this year. But, again, I think that might have been a little bit of sleepwalking, once they got the lead.

7. The ND Club of NENY had a GREAT game watch. They had a "dj" there, to provide all of the sounds that you would hear at the stadium, minus Crazy Train. Played the fight song after each touchdown; played the 1812 Overture at the start of the 4th Q. I told them, "If you really want to simulate the stadium experience, you should pair everyone up, and make each pair share one chair."

My game ball goes to...... you have to give it to Josh Adams. Longest run from scrimmage in ND history.

Re-watched the game...

I'll take the W. However, this is the least impressed I've been outside the Clemson loss. Wake's RB had his season high rushing. (and yes I heard Flutie stress how badly they have sucked running the ball over the last two seasons). Wake QBs were very effective. Wake shot themselves in the foot in the Red Zone, otherwise this is a shootout. ND O line was sleepwalking. Corners are Gary Grey reincarnate...what I thought would be a strength is clearly THE most consistent point of failure on the defense. Kicking consistency is not good.

It is a W but I'm guessing film review was interesting...

 

[Crazy Balki]

agree

...so what jackass decides to throw a wad of marshmallows on the field during the game?

Man...wanna see purple face...let ND get a penalty for that crap.

It happened multiple times...does no one work security?

Hey now, can't you see they're busy making sure everybody is sitting down and golf clapping for 4 quarters?

 

[Crazy Balki]

Re-watched the game...

I'll take the W. However, this is the least impressed I've been outside the Clemson loss. Wake's RB had his season high rushing. (and yes I heard Flutie stress how badly they have sucked running the ball over the last two seasons). Wake QBs were very effective. Wake shot themselves in the foot in the Red Zone, otherwise this is a shootout. ND O line was sleepwalking. Corners are Gary Grey reincarnate...what I thought would be a strength is clearly THE most consistent point of failure on the defense. Kicking consistency is not good.

It is a W but I'm guessing film review was interesting...

I agree with you, outside of WF shooting themselves in the foot in the redzone. Our defense deserves a ton of credit for keeping them in check when they got inside our territory.

 

[phgreek]

I agree with you, outside of WF shooting themselves in the foot in the redzone. Our defense deserves a ton of credit for keeping them in check when they got inside our territory.

Yea, I gotta tip my hat to their intensity...well and it looks like Jaylon is NDs best pass defender too...

But wake did have some self-inflicted wounds ...

 

[irish o'phile]

I hate their coach.

 

[NDRock]

I agree with you, outside of WF shooting themselves in the foot in the redzone. Our defense deserves a ton of credit for keeping them in check when they got inside our territory.

It was a Diaco defensive performance. The other team went for a lot of yards, led in TOP but we held them in the red zone and ultimately gave up only 7 points.

 

[phgreek]

It was a Diaco defensive performance. The other team went for a lot of yards, led in TOP but we held them in the red zone and ultimately gave up only 7 points.

may have looked like it on the stats sheet...except Diaco was assignment football, base(ish) defense, fill gaps, discipline, discipline discipline. Van Gorder dials something up nearly every play, and tries to take away things based on tendency, down and distance, knowing he creates serious mismatches against himself elsewhere hoping pressure covers it. As a result I think you can expect a couple of runs a game where someone catches him. Wake actually did far more than catch ND on a couple plays.

Consider also how hard it is to have a very young line (D and O)...wake is very, very young, and they put it to ND on both sides of the ball.

ND held wake in the Redzone due to effort, but also a fumbled snap and some untimely penalties. As Pitt was not as close as the score indicated, wake was closer than the score indicated....a lot closer.

I'll take the W...but like I said, I'd love to hear the game reviews, particularly discussion of O and D line grading...

 

[phgreek]

I hate their coach.

I wasn't impressed with a number of things he did. There is working the refs, then there is someone doing ....THAT. Although I thought the refs were indeed horrible enough to merit discipline.

 

[arrowryan]

agree

...so what jackass decides to throw a wad of marshmallows on the field during the game?

Man...wanna see purple face...let ND get a penalty for that crap.

It happened multiple times...does no one work security?

There were probably 3 or 4,000 seniors participating in the marshmallow fight. I'm not really sure what the ushers could've done to make it stop. I wasn't one of the jackasses that threw a wad of marshmallows on the field as I was sitting too far up and my arm wasn't strong enough lol. But its a senior day tradition and I'm glad the refs tolerated it

 

[phgreek]

There were probably 3 or 4,000 seniors participating in the marshmallow fight. I'm not really sure what the ushers could've done to make it stop. I wasn't one of the jackasses that threw a wad of marshmallows on the field as I was sitting too far up and my arm wasn't strong enough lol. But its a senior day tradition and I'm glad the refs tolerated it

...I'm glad they did too. I think the Marshmallow thing is cool. I do NOT think it is cool to lob stuff onto the field. I do not think any that made the field were accidental. I think you'd be surprised how fast hauling someone out of the game followed by a PA announcement highlighting the punishment would impact that conduct.

If it was not somehow safe or possible to stop it at the time...Personally, I'd be telling security personnel they'd all get a 1K bonus if they could find just one person via tape review, and send them through disciplinary process to serve as a future deterrent.

Lots of ways to shut down bad actors w/o taking it away from the kids who aren't being morons.

 

[IrishinTN]

I was there and saw people on the sidelines- reporters or hosts or ushers or whatever they were, laughing and picking them up and throwing them back into the crowd. This might have encouraged some to throw them back at them on the sideline again and there really isn't a lot of room on the sidelines for it.

 

[Wingman Ray]

Defense was really bad. You say ND stopped in the red zone. I say BC surrendered 0 pts vs WF. WF moved the ball all day long. Everyone acting like ND has some smashmouth fb because it stopped one the nations worst teams by 3 scores, including a defensive score and a 98 yard 1 play gain.

ND has no right to be top 4. Im not even convinced top 10.

 

[kmoose]

Defense was really bad. You say ND stopped in the red zone. I say BC surrendered 0 pts vs WF. WF moved the ball all day long. Everyone acting like ND has some smashmouth fb because it stopped one the nations worst teams by 3 scores, including a defensive score and a 98 yard 1 play gain.

ND has no right to be top 4. Im not even convinced top 10.

But you see, they aren't in the top 4 simply because they beat Wake Forest. They are in the Top 4 because they have earned it based on the entirety of their season thus far, which has been highly successful against one of the tougher schedules in the country.

And for all of those looking to discount the 98 yard TD run: each and every play counts, so get out of here with all of the "if you take the 98 yard run out" crap. It wasn't a play where lightning struck the field and only the defenders were knocked down. It was a great play. Josh Adams earned those yards. You could make an argument that the Trumbetti play was just dumb luck for us, but the Adams run was nothing more than everyone doing their job, and the better talent clearly showing through.

 

[PigtownIrish]

Did anyone else love the moment where Kizer lowered his shoulder and smashed their DB on his way to first down?

 

[connor_in]

But you see, they aren't in the top 4 simply because they beat Wake Forest. They are in the Top 4 because they have earned it based on the entirety of their season thus far, which has been highly successful against one of the tougher schedules in the country.

And for all of those looking to discount the 98 yard TD run: each and every play counts, so get out of here with all of the "if you take the 98 yard run out" crap. It wasn't a play where lightning struck the field and only the defenders were knocked down. It was a great play. Josh Adams earned those yards. You could make an argument that the Trumbetti play was just dumb luck for us, but the Adams run was nothing more than everyone doing their job, and the better talent clearly showing through.

This.

You see this from nearly every game with nearly every fanbase. It can always be turned back against people too. Remember, if you take away the play where WF scored the TD, then we pitched a shutout. scUM fans say you take away the "fluke" last play then they win. But if you take away the bizzaro 12 second goal line play that was called for a TD for them when they never crossed the stripe then MSU already has the lead on the last drive. The thing is these games don't just come down to one play. If your RB takes it to the house on his first 3, 5 or 7 touches, then you put the games out of reach and one play won't turn the game late in the 4th

 

[IrishLion]

Some people just can't help but be miserable no matter what. It's impossible for them to enjoy the ride.

Even if ND played perfect in every game and won a national championship, some people would still find something to bitch about.

Whenever ND wins another National Championship, some people in the ND fan base will be worse than the ESPN/SEC crowd and will probably say "we were just lucky that college football was down in general" or some such nonsense.

 

[Te'o4Heisman]

Did anyone else love the moment where Kizer lowered his shoulder and smashed their DB on his way to first down?

Jonathan Vilma said he loved it I thought it was awesome too. I know we can't afford for Kizer to get hurt, but I love physicality from the QB position. There is nothing more demoralizing than getting trucked by a QB other than maybe getting lit up by a kicker or punter.