Politics

[irishff1014]

Sessions has resigned.

 

[Bishop2b5]

outside of continuing to rock the economy and employment...
he'll continue to be bad orange man, and make libs act like

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She got arrested shortly after this, I believe. So, you're cursing at people and throwing coffee on them because they disagree with you (and doing so politely) while ranting about Fascism and Nazis. I'm guessing the irony escapes her.

 

[Irish YJ]

She got arrested shortly after this, I believe. So, you're cursing at people and throwing coffee on them because they disagree with you (and doing so politely) while ranting about Fascism and Nazis. I'm guessing the irony escapes her.

not sure if you noticed, but she's wearing a commie button too lol...
how gillum's camp hired her as an intern (if true) is hilarious.
her fans are saying that the arrest is a nazi led campaign to silence her...
gotta love those "progressives"


Legacy/Eddy, here's a gofundme for her legal defense if you care to help.

https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/05/gofundme-gillum-intern-chocolate-milk/

 

[Irish YJ]

Sessions has resigned.

the conspiracies around MSM and the webz are a plenty....

 

[Irish YJ]

not sure if you noticed, but she's wearing a commie button too lol...
how gillum's camp hired her as an intern (if true) is hilarious.
her fans are saying that the arrest is a nazi led campaign to silence her...
gotta love those "progressives"


Legacy/Eddy, here's a gofundme for her legal defense if you care to help.

https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/05/gofundme-gillum-intern-chocolate-milk/

and saw some stuff saying she's gonna be the next Ocasio Cortez LMAO

 

[irishff1014]

the conspiracies around MSM and the webz are a plenty....

Trump is not helping himself here. Should be interesting to see what happens.

 

[Irish#1]

I was erading this article from foxnews.com and this statement caught my attention.

Most Americans know how Washington, D.C. is supposed to work, with the House and Senate drafting compromise legislation to fix the nation’s troubles while the president signs or vetoes the bills accordingly. But a recent study shows that things aren’t going as the Founding Fathers had planned. No longer are the House and Senate serving their intended functions of drafting new laws, declaring war, and serving as a check on the presidency.

Instead, the deeply divided legislative branch has delegated its powers to the executive – specifically to the president and his many executive orders.

It’s a pattern that started with President Barack Obama and has continued under President Donald Trump.

But that heavy-handed governing has led to an unending stream of lawsuits from opposing states and activist groups. That means the federal judiciary has more frequently stepped in to decide the nation’s future on the most divisive issues like abortion, immigration, and affirmative action.


I guess Legacy can blame Obama for starting this.

 

[Irish#1]

outside of continuing to rock the economy and employment...
he'll continue to be bad orange man, and make libs act like

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Just another reason to kick FSU's ass on Saturday.

Trump asked Session for his resignation letter. Session didn't do it on his own. Trump trying to get control of the Russia probe before Pelosi gets elected speaker.

 

[Irish YJ]

Trump is not helping himself here. Should be interesting to see what happens.

Not sure why anyone is surprised. But I agree, he didn't need to do this.

Perhaps Trump thinks the Russian stuff in the media was too quiet, and this will amp things back up lol. Maybe this is Trump's latest ploy to get the dems to make themselves look silly/crazy again.

On the Russian issue in general, people have grown tired of it. 2 years and nothing. I predicted they would keep it going till year 3.5 in an effort to impact 2020. That's still my bet.

 

[Irish#1]

Trump is not helping himself here. Should be interesting to see what happens.

The best thing Trump could do going forward, is cool on the bravado and just continue working on his causes without fanfare. Take away the libs ammo and they won't have a lot to talk about.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My observations:<br><br>1) GOP losses in the House are in line w the historical average. R gains in the Senate were unusual. <br><br>2) If Rs had held the House, the margin would have been so small, nothing of substance would have passed anyway. Senate continues to give R judges.</p>— Ari Fleischer (@AriFleischer) <a href="https://twitter.com/AriFleischer/status/1060170774546444289?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 7, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Some useful stats in this thread from yesterday's elections.

 

[Irish YJ]

The best thing Trump could do going forward, is cool on the bravado and just continue working on his causes without fanfare. Take away the libs ammo and they won't have a lot to talk about.

If things were normal, I would agree. But the new normal is.... the left is crazy far left, and lives in constant outrage. While I hate his bravado and antics, the left responds with much worse behavior. And that works up his base. Sad, but it's just how things are. When both parties get back to actually doing what they are elected to do (legislating), instead of campaigning and obstructing 24/7/365, perhaps we can have nice things, and a nice president.

 

[Bluto]

I was erading this article from foxnews.com and this statement caught my attention.

Most Americans know how Washington, D.C. is supposed to work, with the House and Senate drafting compromise legislation to fix the nation’s troubles while the president signs or vetoes the bills accordingly. But a recent study shows that things aren’t going as the Founding Fathers had planned. No longer are the House and Senate serving their intended functions of drafting new laws, declaring war, and serving as a check on the presidency.

Instead, the deeply divided legislative branch has delegated its powers to the executive – specifically to the president and his many executive orders.

It’s a pattern that started with President Barack Obama and has continued under President Donald Trump.

But that heavy-handed governing has led to an unending stream of lawsuits from opposing states and activist groups. That means the federal judiciary has more frequently stepped in to decide the nation’s future on the most divisive issues like abortion, immigration, and affirmative action.


I guess Legacy can blame Obama for starting this.

I think it goes back much further than that. I would put the beginning of that particular slippery slope around 1965 when Johnson decided to escalate things in Vietnam.

 

[ab2cmiller]

I think it goes back much further than that. I would put the beginning of that particular slippery slope around 1965 when Johnson decided to escalate things in Vietnam.

Yup. With each successive presidency, the president continues to step up to and over the line on what is being done with an executive order. I can only imagine what will be done with executive order in the future.

 

[Irish YJ]

I think it goes back much further than that. I would put the beginning of that particular slippery slope around 1965 when Johnson decided to escalate things in Vietnam.

fair enough on that one example, but the frequency/normalcy the last 10 years is the point. Irish#1 is spot on. it's become the new normal. government as a whole is failing to do as the founding fathers intended. it's more about politics and partisanship than governing.

 

[ACamp1900]

Can we please stop pretending these clowns are anything more than what they claim to be fighting against??

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-antifa-break-door-chant-fox-host/1927868002/

 

[Bishop2b5]

We all know this is wrong to the nth degree and totally against all our nation is supposed to be about, yet the leaders on the Left are almost totally silent in condemning it. Schumer and a couple of others have said something (and credit to them for doing so), but then you have Mad Maxie openly encouraging it. Total scum.

 

[RDU Irish]

Can we please stop pretending these clowns are anything more than what they claim to be fighting against??

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-antifa-break-door-chant-fox-host/1927868002/

Heard this on the radio over lunch - absolutely revolting. Not like Dems have a history of bullying and intimidating people in their homes while wearing hoods or anything. Civility is dead on the left - has been for quite some time! And you wonder why so many are quietly conservative.

One of the better panels I have been to - Tucker Carlson and Bill Kristol at a conference just after Trump won. Tucker talked about his neighborhood and the liberal bubble at length.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Justice Ginsburg fell at her office last night, breaking three ribs, and had to be hospitalized this morning.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/g...ing-3-ribs-in-fall/ar-BBPtRf3?ocid=spartanntp

 

[Irish YJ]

We all know this is wrong to the nth degree and totally against all our nation is supposed to be about, yet the leaders on the Left are almost totally silent in condemning it. Schumer and a couple of others have said something (and credit to them for doing so), but then you have Mad Maxie openly encouraging it. Total scum.

I rarely watch his show, but will be recording it tonight.
At some point, those loons are going to pound on the wrong door.

 

[Legacy]

Good for Dan Crenshaw, Pete Davidson and SNL. They even added a touch of humor. We did not know that Davidson's father lost his life in 9/11.

Weekend Update: Pete Davidson Apologizes to Lt. Com. Dan Crenshaw - SNL

 

[Whiskeyjack]

The Week's Bonnie Kristian just published an article titled "We should chop America up into 7 different countries":

Look, we had a good run.

Well, maybe "good" isn't quite the right word ... but certainly it's been interesting. These United States were a grand experiment. But the experiment has gotten out of hand. It's time to peacefully dissolve the union.

I know, I know. This is not what good Americans are supposed to suggest. "Four score and seven years ago" and all that. But to borrow a lesser-known phrase from that brief address, it seems to me we have tested whether this nation "can long endure," and increasingly it is clear it cannot. It's just not working. Do you really disagree? Do you like the way things are?

We are fresh off a midterm election which has guaranteed two years of gridlock and rancor. But the issues that animated this campaign season are in no sense resolved. David Brooks' recent diagnosis of "two electorates" conducting entirely separate conversations and motivated by entirely different primal fears remains equally perceptive. Mutual partisan hatred is still nearly total. It is still the case that the sort of person who would attend a Trump rally and one who joined the Women's March do not wish to share a country with each other.

They may not explicitly say so, but they do come very close. How else should we interpret, "If you don't like it, leave," or, "If [candidate] wins, I'm moving to Canada"? However unserious, these are basically expressions of a desire for separate nations.

So ... what if we did that? What if we stopped demanding that people with fundamentally different value systems who live nowhere near each other constantly fight about politics so they can develop temporary political compromises that are unsatisfactory to all?

That sounds nice, doesn't it? I suggest it's appealing because this nation is just too big to function. We have 325 million people flung across 3.8 million square miles. A majority will always feel forgotten by Washington, because they are. Consider that the House of Representatives has one member for every 747,000 Americans. In the first Congress, that ratio was 57,000 to one. One person may be able to fairly represent 57,000 others, but I doubt it. Representing 13 times that is impossible.

And even if real representation were feasible at this scale — even if we enormously expanded the number of seats in Congress and made other major structural reforms to how our elections work — that would only highlight the depth of our disagreements. What strikes someone in California or Vermont as a necessary freedom may herald the breakdown of society in Mississippi or Utah. One American's noble mission to spread democracy is another's war crime.

But practically, could we really divide the United States of America? How would it work?

A quick Google search will summon proposals for slicing the United States into two, five, seven, a different seven, eight, nine, 11, 12, or 13 smaller nations. I don't have a particular favorite, though I suspect simply cutting the country in half risks unnecessary conflict without solving many of the problems of size.

What sort of division we pursue is crucial. Many of those maps make their cuts to give each new nation a population equal with all the rest. That has a certain tidiness, but it is politically unwise. Splitting up the union should prioritize and honor regional differences, even if that means ending up with countries of unequal proportions. Electoral maps can be deceiving, but they offer some basic direction in this regard. States need not stay intact, though that would be more convenient for maintaining local governance structures.

On a smaller scale, many of the maps listed above chop up the Black Belt, which strikes me as a mistake. Likewise, while several recognize unique cultural influences along the Gulf Coast, only one notes the concentration of Mormon communities in and near Utah, and none to my knowledge do anything to acknowledge Native American tribal lands. These are the sorts of details a workable split must incorporate.

This may strike you as a defeatist proposal. Perhaps, after nearly 250 years, you believe the union is inherently worth preserving. But what are we really trying to keep? The vague and frankly outmoded idea that "America" is the most important nation on Earth, and must be the most powerful? This is a puerile fantasy. And splitting up won't undo our history together or cause us to forget our culture. If anything, it might stave off some of the bland national homogenization that threatens to blot out distinct features of our most interesting places. Having, say, seven nations of America wouldn't make us any less American in any way that really matters.

What it would do is make truly representative and responsible government significantly more possible. It would cut down on political anger and argument, allowing us to work within a smaller range of regional perspectives. We could find nuance in fresh solutions that our hateful red vs. blue fights cannot permit. We could preserve the good things about the United States while losing the bitter and unwieldy national politics which almost none of us can meaningfully influence.

Ironically, chopping up the United States could make us more united.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Perhaps those seven nations each have a leader, and they will offer a sort of ruler over the entire land. We could call them electors; maybe it's best if these electors are tied to a family. The new ruler could have a title that reflects some sort of Roman descent, like Imperator. How about that?

 

[ACamp1900]

Perhaps those seven nations each have a leader, and they will offer a sort of ruler over the entire land. We could call them electors; maybe it's best if these electors are tied to a family. The new ruler could have a title that reflects some sort of Roman descent, like Imperator. How about that?

30 Man No Holds Barred Battle Royal,... each nation selects 4 entrants, plus Dwanye Johnson and Lenny Dykstra... whichever region's entrant lasts the longest is given that nation's title of 'Grand Master of Funk'. GMF will essentially act as Conan at the end of CtB... but that's another story. Region to Region disputes are reconciled during the yearly Grand Master Diss Battle... DJ Jazzy Jeff will oversee final approval of Diss Battle outcomes.

Utopia.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

30 Man No Holds Barred Battle Royal,... each nation selects 4 entrants, plus Dwanye Johnson and Lenny Dykstra... whichever region's entrant lasts the longest is given that nation's title of 'Grand Master of Funk'. GMF will essentially act as Conan at the end of CtB... but that's another story. Region to Region disputes are reconciled during the yearly Grand Master Diss Battle... DJ Jazzy Jeff will oversee final approval of Diss Battle outcomes.

Utopia.

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[ACamp1900]

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[Wild Bill]

The Week's Bonnie Kristian just published an article titled "We should chop America up into 7 different countries":

Ironically, chopping up the United States could make us more united.

Interesting article. Moving borders, which the author focuses on, is the easy part of secession. The hard part is moving people. I can't imagine that's going to unite us. It would be a difficult time even if those removed are compensated and it's done peacefully. Over time, I could envision a scenario where we are more united after a secession.

 

[loomis41973]

So is this guy still gonna run in 2020?

http://www.tmz.com/2018/11/14/michael-avenatti-arrested-domestic-violence-stormy-daniels-attorney/

"She hit me 1st" is a great defense from a great lawyer.

Your 5 minutes is up bitchboi.

 

[ab2cmiller]

So is this guy still gonna run in 2020?

http://www.tmz.com/2018/11/14/michael-avenatti-arrested-domestic-violence-stormy-daniels-attorney/

"She hit me 1st" is a great defense from a great lawyer.

Your 5 minutes is up bitchboi.

Do the Libs still believe survivors?

 

[loomis41973]

Amazingly....Every news or pseudo news website I've looked at EXCEPT for CNN has this story....even the local news channels.


Tucker is gonna have fun tonight.