Police State USA

[NorthDakota]

You are talking about people convicted of crimes. That is not what I’m saying. I’m saying people commit crimes approximately at the same rates. They are CAUGHT and prosecuted at different rates.

And I’m also not specifically talking about violent crimes which are a small minority of all crimes committed. I understand there are significant differences in violent crimes and who does them disproportionately. Only 30-40% of nonviolent crimes are reported and of those less these 20% are generally closed via capturing the suspect and prosecution. Hell less than 45% of violent crimes ever go full closure though prosecution.

There is no significant different in drug use, traffic violations, larcenies, property theft, vandalism, minor assaults, And a whole host of other non violent crimes… by race.

Is the issue white people are better at committing crime? Or black folks are worse? Or Asians are really good at crime?

Just trying to figure out where you are at on this.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Is the issue white people are better at committing crime? Or black folks are worse? Or Asians are really good at crime?

Just trying to figure out where you are at on this.

Really lol?

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

 

[GATTACA!]

Is the issue white people are better at committing crime? Or black folks are worse? Or Asians are really good at crime?

Just trying to figure out where you are at on this.

What if I told you it’s basically a direct correlation with average household income? Asians are highest followed by whites, Hispanics, and African Americans in that order.

 

[NorthDakota]

What if I told you it’s basically a direct correlation with average household income? Asians are highest followed by whites, Hispanics, and African Americans in that order.

That's sorta where I'm at. Without looking at data I'm just assuming the poors commit crimes, based on a variety of things. And poors in certain densely populated areas are more heavily policed.

 

[Irish#1]

You are talking about people convicted of crimes. That is not what I’m saying. I’m saying people commit crimes approximately at the same rates. They are CAUGHT and prosecuted at different rates.

And I’m also not specifically talking about violent crimes which are a small minority of all crimes committed. I understand there are significant differences in violent crimes and who does them disproportionately. Only 30-40% of nonviolent crimes are reported and of those less these 20% are generally closed via capturing the suspect and prosecution. Hell less than 45% of violent crimes ever go full closure though prosecution.

There is no significant different in drug use, traffic violations, larcenies, property theft, vandalism, minor assaults, And a whole host of other non violent crimes… by race.

We're talking about violent crime and the reason there are more police assigned in those areas.

 

[Irish#1]

More bad apples

Edit: No idea why that reddit link isn't working.

Not a good look for those policemen. Hopefully they are held accountable. Would also like to know the entire story.

 

[Irish#1]

Obviously the deep state, baby-eating media doesn’t want us to see it. 😉

Worked for me. They probably don't want you leftist pinko commies watching it.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

 

[drayer54]

So lots of theories online about the Tyre fella hooking up with one of the cops' ex and perhaps gloating via text to the cop, and then the cops beat the guy to the death and supposedly allegedly maybe sent a pic of him back to the ex who also worked at Fed-ex.
It's all internet gossip, but let's say it is 90% or more true. Is racism still a thing here?

 

[ulukinatme]

So lots of theories online about the Tyre fella hooking up with one of the cops' ex and perhaps gloating via text to the cop, and then the cops beat the guy to the death and supposedly allegedly maybe sent a pic of him back to the ex who also worked at Fed-ex.
It's all internet gossip, but let's say it is 90% or more true. Is racism still a thing here?

Obviously this is all rumor at this point, but if some of this is true I'm really not sure you can cry racism. Definitely seems more like a jilted lover/revenge angle.

 

[Irish#1]

It would be a stretch to say this was a racists act. This is just a group of cops that let their emotions and not their brains dictate their actions.

 

[ndfanatic78]

Only quoting you jprue cuz this photo is from the link.

"Racism dies community thrives - plant seeds of change"

And yet they'll go vote for the same ole democrats that have DESTROYED our urban centers since the 60's. How do people still vote for them?

Also:

F the Party for Socialism & Liberation. They're Communists. Hard stop. The end. All communists are evil.

You all are fucking repugnant

 

[Wild Bill]

You all are fucking repugnant

Good morning to you as well.

 

[NorthDakota]

You all are fucking repugnant

Found the commie

 

[Bluto]

Found the commie

In all fairness, in light of how fond Bobby M is for constantly reminding people how smart he is, that post of his was an incredibly stupid hot take.

 

[NorthDakota]

In all fairness, in light of how fond Bobby M is for constantly reminding people how smart he is, that post of his was an incredibly stupid hot take.

Found another commie.

I kid.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

 

[SeekNDestroy]

Mississippi gonna Mississippi.

 

[Irish#1]

Mississippi confirms their standing as the poorest most illiterate state in the union.

 

[NorthDakota]

We got a court district in ND that covers Fargo and 2 neighboring unpopulated counties. Its probably busiest district in the state.

Is that bad?

 

[irishff1014]

CO Man's Death After Restraint by Medic, Cop Ruled Homicide

Body cam footage of the Colorado Springs incident shows the victim becoming unresponsive.

www.firehouse.com

This flat out bullshit. Another money hungry family. You can even hear the witness on the side say man you did a good job handling that I am proud of you.

Incase you aren’t aware if you have heart issues and breathing issues such as COPD you shouldn’t be using Meth.

Oh that’s right it’s illegal anyway!

 

[Rockin’Irish]

CO Man's Death After Restraint by Medic, Cop Ruled Homicide

Body cam footage of the Colorado Springs incident shows the victim becoming unresponsive.

www.firehouse.com

This flat out bullshit. Another money hungry family. You can even hear the witness on the side say man you did a good job handling that I am proud of you.

Incase you aren’t aware if you have heart issues and breathing issues such as COPD you shouldn’t be using Meth.

Oh that’s right it’s illegal anyway!

Based on the article description……sounds like he was already having a health emergency before the confrontation. Unless there is a lot more info that we don’t know, ruling it a homicide is ludicrous. Money hungry is right!

 

[IRISHDODGER]

 

[GATTACA!]

Violent arrest in Paulding County goes viral | Attorneys for detainee address injuries

During a press conference Monday, the attorneys accused the Paulding County deputy of leaving their client with $75,000 worth of medical bills.

www.11alive.com

Anyone wanting to know more: the guy’s name is Tyler Canaris. He sustained multiple fractures, including a fractured skull, as well as a ruptured eardrum. He has been left with $75,000 of medical bills and is currently filing a civil rights suit. He was innocent.

 

[IrishLax]

His crime?

Ward was sitting in the car with his mother and her boyfriend waiting for his younger brother to get out of Liberty Point International School in Pueblo West. According to family attorney Darold Killmer, Ward got out of the car to stretch his legs and smoke a cigarette. When he returned, Killmer said he accidentally got into another SUV that looked like his mother’s. Killmer said he quickly got out of that car and walked back to his mother’s car.
“At worst, he had startled a lady by opening her car door, though it was accidental, and nothing further happened when he realized his mistake,” Killmer said. “The officers had no basis to believe Richard had committed any crime, and absolutely no basis to believe that Richard was a danger to them or anyone else.”

But too many cops are incompetent shitheads with no ability to manage even non-threatening situations. So they murdered him in front of his mom while waiting for his little brother to get out of school.

They also lied about what happened afterwards saying he "jumped out of the vehicle" when the truth is that they aggressively pulled him out and then shot him three times. Thank god for body cameras.

 

[irishtrooper]

His crime?

But too many cops are incompetent shitheads with no ability to manage even non-threatening situations. So they murdered him in front of his mom while waiting for his little brother to get out of school.

They also lied about what happened afterwards saying he "jumped out of the vehicle" when the truth is that they aggressively pulled him out and then shot him three times. Thank god for body cameras.

Are you serious?! You quote his family’s attorney (no bias I’m sure). I watched the video and since you clearly are foolish with regard to policing or laws that govern protecting yourself, let me offer the following-

The officer responds to a report of a subject getting in the wrong car in clear daylight (possibly indicating some sort of impairment). Definitely cause for some level of alert or concern.

He locates the subject and is greeted with disdain (no surprise this day in age - particularly when there are so many experts on tactics out there). Anti police sentiment is not only embraced by people like you, it’s encouraged by jumping to snap judgments without a full investigation (something every citizen- EVEN POLICE have a fundamental right to).

He is difficult to understand and offers a confusing account of why he’d get into the wrong car. While being id’d he states he might have a knife (whether you agree - all courts have held that is a deadly weapon, a deadly weapon with which you as a police officer have a right to defend yourself from with deadly force).

The subject reaches for something (knife?), puts something (drugs?) in his mouth, and this officer in a literal split second decides to physically engage. He doesn’t just shoot him, he tries to control him and handcuff him. The subject clearly physically resists and there’s a struggle. I can’t tell from a quick view, but the officer claims (reasonably) that he was grabbing his ”stuff” while motioning toward his firearm.

There will be a full investigation and if charges are merited, then the officer will likely be charged. It’s totally lawful and reasonable based on the initial review that this was probably justified. However if evidence is presented to the contrary, I’ll support full prosecution. NOBODY has more scrutiny on them than police, and for an armchair prosecutor to convict him based on a video that doesn’t show what he so badly wants it to show serves nobody, except for the anti police amongst the board.

I feel for the subject’s family and better communication would’ve likely prevented a loss of life. I don’t think the officer can just wait to see if the subject was grabbing for a knife. When the struggle began, grabbing for the firearm (if true) or just physically resisting after saying you have a knife (and don’t like cops), and swallowing possible evidence isn’t a good way to ensure personal safety.

I’m disappointed that the snap judgment here is to assume he was just killed while innocently waiting for his little brother. That’s clearly only part of the story. Perhaps adding that he was killed while waiting for his brother after saying that he might have a knife, swallowing something (typically drug evidence), reaching for something and fighting (resisting physical control to ensure safety) and allegedly grabbing the officer’s weapon wouldn’t be as inaccurate

 

[GATTACA!]

Are you serious?! You quote his family’s attorney (no bias I’m sure). I watched the video and since you clearly are foolish with regard to policing or laws that govern protecting yourself, let me offer the following-

The officer responds to a report of a subject getting in the wrong car in clear daylight (possibly indicating some sort of impairment). Definitely cause for some level of alert or concern.

He locates the subject and is greeted with disdain (no surprise this day in age - particularly when there are so many experts on tactics out there). Anti police sentiment is not only embraced by people like you, it’s encouraged by jumping to snap judgments without a full investigation (something every citizen- EVEN POLICE have a fundamental right to).

He is difficult to understand and offers a confusing account of why he’d get into the wrong car. While being id’d he states he might have a knife (whether you agree - all courts have held that is a deadly weapon, a deadly weapon with which you as a police officer have a right to defend yourself from with deadly force).

The subject reaches for something (knife?), and this officer in a literal split second decides to physically engage. He doesn’t just shoot him, he tries to control him and handcuff him. The subject clearly physically resists and there’s a struggle. I can’t tell from a quick view, but the officer claims (reasonably) that he was grabbing his ”stuff” while motioning toward his firearm.

There will be a full investigation and if charges are merited, then the officer will likely be charged. It’s totally lawful and reasonable based on the initial review that this was probably justified. However if evidence is presented to the contrary, I’ll support full prosecution. NOBODY has more scrutiny on them than police, and for an armchair prosecutor to convict him based on a video that doesn’t show what he so badly wants it to show serves nobody, except for the anti police amongst the board.

I feel for the subject’s family and better communication would’ve likely prevented a loss of life. I don’t think the officer can just wait to see if the subject was grabbing for a knife. When the struggle began, grabbing for the firearm (if true) or just physically resisting after saying you have a knife (and don’t like cops) isn’t a good way to ensure personal safety.

I’m disappointed that the snap judgment here is to assume he was just killed while innocently waiting for his little brother. That’s clearly only part of the story. Perhaps adding that he was killed while waiting for his brother after saying that he might have a knife, reaching for something and fighting (resisting physical control to ensure safety) and allegedly grabbing the officer’s weapon wouldn’t be as inaccurate

 

[Bishop2b5]

Gattaca, everything irishtrooper said is correct. Why call him a clown for that, just because you don't like that he rebuts the original story? Are police and the public supposed to just take every shooting victim's word that they were totally innocent and did nothing wrong, or are we to look at all the evidence and try to find the truth?

 

[GATTACA!]

Gattaca, everything irishtrooper said is correct. Why call him a clown for that, just because you don't like that he rebuts the original story? Are police and the public supposed to just take every shooting victim's word that they were totally innocent and did nothing wrong, or are we to look at all the evidence and try to find the truth?

I did look at the evidence. Watch the video. That guy was compliant and answering their questions. They ask him if he has anything on him so he starts to go through his pockets. Big bad pussy cop decides to rip him out of the vehicle and ends up shooting him. Throw that fucker in prison and lose the key.

I’m sure they’ll investigate and decide he did nothing wrong. Then people will continue to cry about how everyone hates cops. Gee I wonder why?