Police State USA

[NEIIrish]

I applied for the proud boys but had to decline membership after I found out about their no masturbation policy.

 

[Irish#1]

Join the crowd.



Oregon-based Civil Rights and Community Organizations Call for Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler to Resign.
https://twitter.com/CAIROregon/status/1300132232913285120/photo/1

Join the crowd? Hell I bet they read my post and thought, “This guys a genius!”

 

[tussin]

Spin it anyway you want, but if I'm a citizen of Portland, I'm holding the mayor accountable for letting this get to where it is.

When I was young, I would look at the mayor of a major city (most politicians, actually) and think, "Wow, that person must be so smart and such a great leader." Now, I realize most are idiots like the rest of us just trying to get their 40 hours in.

 

[NorthDakota]

When I was young, I would look at the mayor of a major city (most politicians, actually) and think, "Wow, that person must be so smart and such a great leader." Now, I realize most are idiots like the rest of us just trying to get their 40 hours in.

Generally I think being a mayor would be a really thankless job. Even the partisans of your party probably hate you because they will have a lot of complaints about the city that they will attribute to you.

That said, a lot of these guys are the most tone deaf and incompetent people lol. If discussions at school ever get political or partisan, the best way to get things back to normal is bring up de Blasio lol

 

[Legacy]

Police: LA deputies shoot, kill Black man who dropped gun (AP News)

LOS ANGELES (AP) — A Black man was shot and killed by Los Angeles County sheriff’s deputies after he was stopped for a traffic violation while riding a bike, then ran from police, punched one officer and then “made a motion” toward a gun on the ground, authorities said.

The Monday afternoon shooting death of Dijon Kizzee in South Los Angeles prompted a peaceful protest hours later. Black Lives Matter marched Tuesday evening from the scene to a sheriff’s precinct station.

A Sheriff’s Department statement released Tuesday evening said deputies had tried to stop Kizzee for riding his bicycle in violation of vehicle codes, but he dropped his bike and ran. It didn’t provide any more details about the alleged violation.

The deputies momentarily lost sight of him. But when they caught up, he immediately punched one deputy in the face and dropped a jacket, causing a black semiautomatic handgun to fall to the ground, according to the statement.

The shooting occurred when the man “made a motion” toward the gun, the statement said.

Latiera Irby, 29, told the Los Angeles Times that she had stopped by her mother’s house to get her hair done when Kizzee came up to her car and told her: “They’re coming to get me; they’re coming to get me.”

Kizzee offered her money to drive him away.

“I didn’t know who he was running from, so I told him no,” she said.

Irby said a short time later, she saw Kizzee scuffle with a deputy, who backed away and then shot him.

The same deputy and another fired at Kizzee after he fell to the ground, she said, adding: “He had nothing in his hands.”

Police said the handgun was recovered, and no deputies were injured. TV news helicopters showed a gun near the body.

Dean said investigators had not yet interviewed witnesses or reviewed any surveillance or cellphone video.

“Give us time to conduct our investigation,” he said. “We will get all of the facts of this case and eventually present them.”

The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department, the largest in the nation, does not have body cameras for deputies, though that soon will change. The county Board of Supervisors on Tuesday approved funding, and the first round of deputies will be equipped with cameras next month.

Ed Obayashi, a use-of-force consultant to law enforcement agencies and a deputy sheriff in Plumas County, said the Los Angeles County deputies will need to explain how they felt Kizzee presented an immediate threat even though his weapon was on the ground.

“For the officers to justify their shooting of Mr. Kizzee, they are going to have to articulate that they reasonably feared for their safety,” Obayashi said.

It will be important for the deputies to be specific, he said.

“What made you believe that he was an ongoing, immediate threat to the public?” Obayashi said. “Did you believe he was still armed? Why? And if he was armed and running away, what was your reason for feeling that he constituted a threat to yourselves or the public?”

 

[Irish#1]

Generally I think being a mayor would be a really thankless job. Even the partisans of your party probably hate you because they will have a lot of complaints about the city that they will attribute to you.

That said, a lot of these guys are the most tone deaf and incompetent people lol. If discussions at school ever get political or partisan, the best way to get things back to normal is bring up de Blasio lol

Totally agree. Until now, Indy has had some pretty decent mayors during my time. Our current mayor (Hogsett) I'm not so sure of. He's been talking about reducing crime (particularly murder) from his first day, yet it isn't getting better.

 

[Legacy]

Neither great patriots nor Christians

Portland killing renews focus on tactics of far-right group Patriot Prayer.

Trump can pardon them all when they are convicted or invite them to the WH.

 

[Sea Turtle]

Neither great patriots nor Christians

Portland killing renews focus on tactics of far-right group Patriot Prayer.

Trump can pardon them all when they are convicted or invite them to the WH.

How awful! They carried flags and wore hats and marched. Don't they know that ANTIFA/BLM own the cities? Nobody else is allowed to voice their opinion. Serves that guy right for getting killed because he dared to be there.

Typical Washington Post.

And you seem to be obsessed with groups like the Proud Boys. Maybe you should take a tenth of that concern and direct it at what we've being seeing from BLM and ANTIFA on a nightly basis.

The average person doesn't even know who the Proud Boys or Patriot Prayer are. At this point, the average person doesn't want to be anywhere near the BLM/ANTIFA.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Neither great patriots nor Christians

Portland killing renews focus on tactics of far-right group Patriot Prayer.

Trump can pardon them all when they are convicted or invite them to the WH.

For the past 3 months what Antifa/ BLM have done to American cities has been called "revolution" and "peaceful protest" by many on the left. Now that the other side is getting tired of it and fighting back, it's a right wing militia.

Full. of. $hit.

 

[Legacy]

Antifa in Portland

Antifa in Portland

Young, white, anarchists, anti says it.

Endemic, swarms, leaves destruction as it moves, goes to ground when the rains come in October. Looking for ways to destroy property and what others have built. Often nocturnal. Attracts others from nearby to increase their numbers. They look for a focus - alt-right, neo-Nazis, feds, Portland PD, local government. Punks.

Kudos to Portland DA for keeping violent offenders without bail.

The Oregonian sometimes posts booking photos of those arrested for violence. BLM in Portland calls for violence to end because message is being obscured and co-opted. Portland businesses and volunteers will rally to clean up downtown from damage.

Portland businesses plan rally to clean downtown area Thursday

Most of my thoughts on removal would violate 1st, 2nd and 4th Amendments.

 

[MJ12666]

Young, white, anarchists, anti says it.

Endemic, swarms, leaves destruction as it moves, goes to ground when the rains come in October. Looking for ways to destroy property and what others have built. Often nocturnal. Attracts others from nearby to increase their numbers. They look for a focus - alt-right, neo-Nazis, feds, Portland PD, local government. Punks.

Kudos to Portland DA for keeping violent offenders without bail.

The Oregonian sometimes posts booking photos of those arrested for violence. BLM in Portland calls for violence to end because message is being obscured and co-opted. Portland businesses and volunteers will rally to clean up downtown from damage.

Portland businesses plan rally to clean downtown area Thursday

Most of my thoughts on removal would violate 1st, 2nd and 4th Amendments.

Oregon law enforcement would beg to differ on your conclusion regarding the Portland DA. For example, earlier this week the Oregon governor proposed a plan having sheriff deputies (from two nearby counties) and the Oregon State Police assist Portland police in maintaining some semblance of order in the city. Both the county sheriffs rejected the proposal as reported by the local news:

The rejection by the two sheriffs, elected as nonpartisans, increases uncertainty about Portland’s future just as Trump puts the chaos in Portland in his campaign crosshairs as part of his law and order re-election campaign theme.

Clackamas County Sheriff Craig Roberts said inundating the city with more law enforcement would not work because Portland’s newly elected district attorney has dismissed charges against hundreds of protesters arrested for non-violent, low-level crimes.

“The same offenders are arrested night after night, only to be released by the court and not charged with a crime by the DA’s Office,” Roberts said. “The next night they are back at it, endangering the lives of law enforcement and the community all over again.”

And as far as the state police are concerned (again according to local news outlets):

Earlier this month, the state police announced they would be moving troopers out of downtown, where they had been protecting the federal courthouse from demonstrators. In doing so, the agency included a jab at Schmidt, the Multnomah County prosecutor.

“At this time we are inclined to move those resources back to counties where prosecution of criminal conduct is still a priority,” OSP Capt. Timothy Fox said at the time.

Don't think they will be returning anytime soon unless the Portland AD is removed or resigns.

https://ktvz.com/news/2020/08/31/2-...-in-governors-plan-to-curb-portland-violence/

https://www.opb.org/article/2020/09/01/portland-area-agencies-say-they-wont-help-police-protests/

 

[Irish#1]

Portland businesses and volunteers will rally to clean up downtown from damage.

Portland businesses plan rally to clean downtown area Thursday

Self preservation for the businesses. Who wants to visit the businesses when the stores and are are a mess? They need the business before they go out of business. They should send the mayor the bill for the cleanup.

 

[irishff1014]

Self preservation for the businesses. Who wants to visit the businesses when the stores and are are a mess? They need the business before they go out of business. They should send the mayor the bill for the cleanup.

And the coward Mayor will just ask the state and the feds for money.

 

[Legacy]

Oregon law enforcement would beg to differ on your conclusion regarding the Portland DA. For example, earlier this week the Oregon governor proposed a plan having sheriff deputies (from two nearby counties) and the Oregon State Police assist Portland police in maintaining some semblance of order in the city. Both the county sheriffs rejected the proposal as reported by the local news:



And as far as the state police are concerned (again according to local news outlets):



Don't think they will be returning anytime soon unless the Portland AD is removed or resigns.

https://ktvz.com/news/2020/08/31/2-...-in-governors-plan-to-curb-portland-violence/

https://www.opb.org/article/2020/09/01/portland-area-agencies-say-they-wont-help-police-protests/

I read that OPB article a couple of days ago. Anyway, I wouldn't make too much of it. But outside of the I-5 corridor and part of Deschutes (Bend) Oregon is very red both in voting and law enforcement with more than a tinge of racism. The sheriffs outside of Multnomah Cty (Portland) mostly ignore gun restrictions, are reliably red on attitudes and issues, don't like Oregon's marijuana laws and look upon themselves as the patriots in the state. The GOP, relying heavily on them, have tried to recall Kate Brown, who is openly bisexual, twice.

Most counties in Oregon do not exceed 1.5% black populations in fairly rural areas. (One black family or two moving from the county would make a signifiant difference.) About half the counties in Oregon have less than 1% blacks. Washington County is second in percent of AA residents - 2.5%. A number of recent Portland PD Chiefs have been black. The head of Portland's City Council is black. Whether the sheriffs in those counties believe there is racial injustice in law enforcement might be inferred. One of the reasons Sheriff Pat Garrett gave for not sending his police to Portland was "...the current volatility combined with intense scrutiny on use of force presents an unacceptable risk if deputies were deployed directly.”

I don't think the deputies in these counties wear body cams and if they were asked to wear them should they come to enforce law and order in Portland.

Clackamus County is where the right wing extremists and militia groups gathered in the town's biggest mall for their trip to Portland this past weekend. Refusing to help law enforcement, the Gov or mayor in Portland is a political statement. The City DA dropped the hundreds of non-violent people rounded up because they would plead the 1st Amendment. Legal time and money would have been wasted while violent offenders at nights would pile up case loads.

The U.S. District Attorney is working with the DA and state. State police are being deputized as U.S. Marshalls to fight the violence, since the nearby counties don't care or refuse. Having those Sheriffs' force might be problematic might be problematic anyway if plans were made to diminish the provocative demonstrations and atttacks with weapons by right wingers.

https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/united-states/quick-facts/oregon/black-population-percentage#map

The Oregon constitution had a black exclusion clause in iit - "No free negro, or mulatto, not residing in this state at the time of the adoption of this constitution, shall come, reside, or be within this State, or hold any real estate." In. 2002, Measure 14 to remove this from their constitution. Thirty-one percent voted to leave the wording in it.

 

[MJ12666]

I read that OPB article a couple of days ago. Anyway, I wouldn't make too much of it. But outside of the I-5 corridor and part of Deschutes (Bend) Oregon is very red both in voting and law enforcement with more than a tinge of racism. The sheriffs outside of Multnomah Cty (Portland) mostly ignore gun restrictions, are reliably red on attitudes and issues, don't like Oregon's marijuana laws and look upon themselves as the patriots in the state. The GOP, relying heavily on them, have tried to recall Kate Brown, who is openly bisexual, twice.

Most counties in Oregon do not exceed 1.5% black populations in fairly rural areas. (One black family or two moving from the county would make a signifiant difference.) About half the counties in Oregon have less than 1% blacks. Washington County is second in percent of AA residents - 2.5%. A number of recent Portland PD Chiefs have been black. The head of Portland's City Council is black. Whether the sheriffs in those counties believe there is racial injustice in law enforcement might be inferred. One of the reasons Sheriff Pat Garrett gave for not sending his police to Portland was "...the current volatility combined with intense scrutiny on use of force presents an unacceptable risk if deputies were deployed directly.”

I don't think the deputies in these counties wear body cams and if they were asked to wear them should they come to enforce law and order in Portland.

Clackamus County is where the right wing extremists and militia groups gathered in the town's biggest mall for their trip to Portland this past weekend. Refusing to help law enforcement, the Gov or mayor in Portland is a political statement. The City DA dropped the hundreds of non-violent people rounded up because they would plead the 1st Amendment. Legal time and money would have been wasted while violent offenders at nights would pile up case loads.

The U.S. District Attorney is working with the DA and state. State police are being deputized as U.S. Marshalls to fight the violence, since the nearby counties don't care or refuse. Having those Sheriffs' force might be problematic might be problematic anyway if plans were made to diminish the provocative demonstrations and atttacks with weapons by right wingers.

https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/united-states/quick-facts/oregon/black-population-percentage#map

The Oregon constitution had a black exclusion clause in iit - "No free negro, or mulatto, not residing in this state at the time of the adoption of this constitution, shall come, reside, or be within this State, or hold any real estate." In. 2002, Measure 14 to remove this from their constitution. Thirty-one percent voted to leave the wording in it.

The Oregon State Police left Portland at the end of August and have refused to return for the same reason the sheriffs will not return.

Oregon State Police are “continually reassessing our resources and the needs of our partner agencies, and at this time we are inclined to move those resources back to counties where prosecution of criminal conduct is still a priority,” spokesman Timothy Fox said in a statement.

The police force is angry at Multnomah County District Attorney Mike Schmidt’s decision not to prosecute many people arrested during weeks of protests at the courthouse, Fox said.

There are multiple articles on the Oregon State Police leaving Portland, no idea how you could not know this.


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...tland-over-lack-of-prosecutions-idUSKCN25915Z

 

[Legacy]

The Oregon State Police left Portland at the end of August and have refused to return for the same reason the sheriffs will not return.



There are multiple articles on the Oregon State Police leaving Portland, no idea how you could not know this.


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...tland-over-lack-of-prosecutions-idUSKCN25915Z

See:
https://www.oregonlive.com/portland...-many-will-assist-with-portland-protests.html

The two Wash counties just north of Portland refuse to cooperate to help establish law and order. Not surprising since Patriot Prayer is located in Vancouver. Patriot Prayer's founder Joey Gibson is being prosecuted in Portland for felony riot.
Vancouver police, Clark County Sheriff’s Office not sending officers to Portland

Kate Brown's spokesman said:
“The U.S. Attorney and Multnomah County D.A. work together every day deciding which cases each will prosecute.”

Similar to the passive approach to a change in Oregon's gun law (red flag law), at least 20 county sheriffs in Washington state – more than half of the state’s total – are now publicly refusing to police new gun laws. Several county governments have also passed local resolutions officially opposing enforcement of the laws.

 

[SonofOahu]

You see what you want to see. Right wing biker riots?? I gave you links, photos, dates.

Patriot Prayer and Proud Boys and Three Percenters will be looking for vengeance. Trump will stoke this for all its worth, praise the right wing scum, and do anything to keep power. It worsens if closer to the election he sees he's losing. He's not looking to heal the nation's wounds and find common ground for discussion about race.

In addition to all the other dates, in August 2019, the white nationalist group American Guard joined in. At the June 2018 Gibson for Freedom Senate (for Washington) March he went to Portland.

Gibson said, “We’ve always had guns at the rally.” Even after everyone was searched at Terry Schrunk Plaza, where weapons are prohibited, several Patriot Prayer members still had guns.

Gibson - “I cannot think of one rally when we didn’t have guns with us. Everywhere we go, we have guns.” He also added that everyone should “be carrying around guns at all times — especially people in our situation.”

At that 2019 August rally, the police encountered four PPs on the top level of a parking garage with a "cache" of rifles and handguns. All the men has concealed handgun permits. Police confiscated the rifles and gave them back afterwards.

At last weekend's rally into Portland:
Protesters fight using pepper spray, baseball bats in Portland on Saturday

Proud Boys at last weekend's rally

At this one, they faced off with the violent left groups and charged into them. Members of the crowd used an array of weapons, including baseball bats and firearms to beat and threaten those they opposed. Portland cannot deny any requests for permits due to free speech and cannot block them from rolling through downtown streets in provocations.

I mean, at least they started wearing masks.

 

[Legacy]

Unfortunately, the current violence is going to pale in comparison to what happens when the police officer who shot Blake is acquitted and Rittenhouse is found guilty of just a gun charge.

They are going to burn this bitch down.

Witnesses describe the night Kyle Rittenhouse opened fire during protests after the shooting of Jacob Blake in Kenosha
(Milwaukee Journal Sentinel)

 

[Legacy]

In Rochester as far as the asphyxiation death of Daniel Prude, the Police Union President Mike Mazzeo said the union was told by Police Chief La’Ron Singletary’s office that
"there was no concern of the actions of our members and that they had followed correct protocols per their training,”

Rochester police union: Officers followed protocol during Prude arrest
(Rochester First)

“A couple of these officers are pretty young officers and they’re confused as well,” Mazzeo said. “I think when this investigation is over and you compare it to just what the training went through, to me, it looks like they were watching the training in front of them and doing it step by step by what that training says to do. So if there is a problem with that, if there’s an issue with that, lets change it.

“What is going to prevent the same occurrence from happening tonight, or this weekend, to officers who have to follow a protocol?” Mazzeo said. “If the officer does something wrong outside of protocol, then they should be disciplined. If they follow protocol to a T, then what do you say to them? The questions should go to New York State Division of Criminal Justice Service. There’s videos that show exactly why and how that tactic is used to a t to what that officer did. They explain it.

No need for retraining or psych eval or disciplinary letters. According to the Union or the Chief. The ME report listed the Cause of Death as "Homicide".

Autopsy report: Daniel Prude death ruled a homicide, died from asphyxia due to ‘physical restraint’ (ME report included)

Prude was naked, handcuffed, no weapon, face pressed against the ground and in a mental health crisis. The family called for help not to watch him die in custody with an excessive use of force.

Union Prez Mazzeo -

“We believe that that individual had a severe problem or issues, there’s documentation there that listed various drugs. It’s unfortunate what we’re dealing with, way more than we should be dealing with — it’s a national crisis. It’s not that uncommon which is unfortunate and telling to what our problems are. We have a number of overdose deaths in this community, daily, weekly , monthly — way more than we should.”

The police are not properly trained to safely resolve mental health crises like this. Funding needs to be redirected to professionals that are best suited for these. Or there will be more deaths like this.

 

[Irish#1]

Heard on the news yesterday that police deaths by suicide are at an all time high.

 

[Bluto]

Heard on the news yesterday that police deaths by suicide are at an all time high.

The suicide rate in the US has been climbing for awhile now. Apparently it’s been increasing sharply for white males and using a firearm is the most common means.

 

[Legacy]

Portland

Portland

A family member who lives in NE Portland went downtown with a friend last weekend to listen to speeches and show support for one of the many organizations involved. Before crossing into the park, the right wing extremists and Pro-Trumpers "rally" came roaring into town from Clackamus. Says they were whoopin' and a hollerin', honking, flag-waving, wearing weapons including semi-automatic rifles, yelling at those they thought were antifa, some spraying the crowd with pepper spray and paint and looking to verbally engage and confront any Portlanders. This went on for at least twenty minutes with cars remaining behind as far as she could see. They gave up listening to hearing speakers and left.

The Proud Boys announced they will rally at Terry Schrunk Plaza downtown on Sept 26th according to their head who lives in Florida. Maybe Alex Smith will come from Austin, or other groups from around the U.S. The Plaza is not city-owned but federal. That way they can avoid any problems with Portland city code. No loaded weapons are allowed on city public areas. Perhaps this is the reason state National Guard has been deputized as federal agents.

Similar to a sh*tshow of a rally in August 2019 where they faced off with the antifa. The advance timing allows both to muster their participants from areas in the areas outside of the state.

This has to stop. These three groups - Patriot Prayer from Vancouver WA, Proud Boys, and the antifa - need to be kicked out and prevented from entering. Big money behind this for lawyers.

 

[Sea Turtle]

A family member who lives in NE Portland went downtown with a friend last weekend to listen to speeches and show support for one of the many organizations involved. Before crossing into the park, the right wing extremists and Pro-Trumpers "rally" came roaring into town from Clackamus. Says they were whoopin' and a hollerin', honking, flag-waving, wearing weapons including semi-automatic rifles, yelling at those they thought were antifa, some spraying the crowd with pepper spray and paint and looking to verbally engage and confront any Portlanders. This went on for at least twenty minutes with cars remaining behind as far as she could see. They gave up listening to hearing speakers and left.

The Proud Boys announced they will rally at Terry Schrunk Plaza downtown on Sept 26th according to their head who lives in Florida. Maybe Alex Smith will come from Austin, or other groups from around the U.S. The Plaza is not city-owned but federal. That way they can avoid any problems with Portland city code. No loaded weapons are allowed on city public areas. Perhaps this is the reason state National Guard has been deputized as federal agents.

Similar to a sh*tshow of a rally in August 2019 where they faced off with the antifa. The advance timing allows both to muster their participants from areas in the areas outside of the state.

This has to stop. These three groups - Patriot Prayer from Vancouver WA, Proud Boys, and the antifa - need to be kicked out and prevented from entering. Big money behind this for lawyers.

'Says they were whoopin' and a hollerin', honking, flag-waving,'

LOL

 

[Legacy]

Multiple arrests after Trump supporters, Proud Boys gather for Labor Day caravan, Salem rally

 

[Irish#1]

Not all of those protesting in Portland are peaceful. I saw on the news Portland protesters were fighting with the police. Saw one clip where a protester was going to hurl a gasoline bomb and somehow managed to set himself on fire.

 

[ACamp1900]

Not all of those protestors in Portland are peaceful.

Thanks Captain obvious.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Not all of those protesting in Portland are peaceful. I saw on the news Portland protesters were fighting with the police. Saw one clip where a protester was going to hurl a gasoline bomb and somehow managed to set himself on fire.

The video of that guy with his shoes on fire and him trying to stomp the fire out is funny, especially the version with the song Footloose dubbed in. Sorry, but I have NO sympathy for some dipshit hurling Molotov cocktails who sets himself on fire. That's as much righteous justice as a terrorist bomb maker accidentally blowing himself up.

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[ulukinatme]

That is a thing of beauty.

 

[Sea Turtle]

Multiple arrests after Trump supporters, Proud Boys gather for Labor Day caravan, Salem rally

BLM visiting McDonalds. It goes how you'd expect. Feel bad for the customers and employees.


https://twitter.com/stillgray/statu...-protesters-assault-black-restaurant-manager/

 

[Legacy]

I would not be surprised if the guy with the pants on fire thought how cool it would be to jump through the flames.

The caravan from Clackamus to Salem of Proud Boys/Patriot Prayer/Pro-Trumpers takes about fifty minutes going south on I-5. They drove through downtown Salem with licenses taped. There was a small amount of pro-BLMers in front of the Capital Building, who stood for a while on one side of the street. The Proud Boys group decided, after a bunch of yelling at the others, to rush them, resulting in five arrests of individuals in their group for assault. They sprayed paintballs and pepper spray at the pro-BLMers. The Pro-Trumpers wore their weapons including semi-autos, stomped around, carried bats and knives, ready for a fight. The Capital is not in session. The Salem police won't put up with.BS.

But the BLMers held up their signs and left the Capital steps after a short while. The Pro-Trumpers stood in front with flags for photos.

https://www.statesmanjournal.com/st...ts-demonstrators-converge-capitol/5741875002/ (Photos)