Yes, I saw that. I see that one of my points - on unions - is clear enough whether Phoenix, NYC, Chicago or any of the other PDs I've posted about. You seem to see only Dem-Rep, left-right.
Now, in those cities, which vary in their oversight and accountability processes - or those recentky passed as Phoenix's - do you have any opinion or thoughts on the best way those should be constructed witth the purpose of separating those officers who abuse their authority from the others who protect us?
Do you have any opinion on Christie working with the Camden city fathers (sorry, I don't know their politics) to effectively "defund" their police? Or on the NYC mayors who were Reps with union support? Or whether Trump's support of PDs and their unions similarly puts him in the same category you place Dem mayors and city council?
I've made it very plain that both parties' mayors in NYC were elected with police union support and that the egregious behavior and racism of some. How would you improve NYC's oversight? Are in support of Phoenix's and the state of Arizona's by Rep AGs? Would you bust their unions as others have done whether businesses or generally Republicans advocate?
Logically, you appear to be an advocate for Rep control of metropolitan areas to break up unions because Dem leadership has led to protecting the Police unions - "in their pockets"? With Rep leadership in the state of Arizona effectively concluding that similar to Dem leadership of the City Council and mayor of Phoenix on the same page, do you have any opinion on whether both are trying to solve the same problems? Pick a city with Rep leadership to demonstrate their successes in oversight and accountability.
Bullet point or list your answers to each of these. Any comment on the racism in the Elkhart or SB police departments - or others?
Take the opportunity to escape politics and engage on the issues the protests and city managements concerns are about across America.
Yes, like another posted said, "Oh the irony". I'll tell you what. I'll make you a deal. I'll provide you bullet point replies on each, as soon as you provide simple yes or no acknowledgements to the following 9 statements.
1. The overwhelming majority of documented problems with police behavior (consent decrees) were in cities with decades of Dem control.
2. The overwhelming majority of cities with the highest murder and violent crime rates were cities with decades of Dem control.
3. Union of all kinds make it hard to remove bad apples.
4. Unions of all kinds are overwhelmingly Dem in nature.
5. Local government controls the police department by funding them, appointing their leadership, approving their policy, and by approving or rejecting their contracts every few years.
6. Unions of all types, do their best to get local politicians elected to suit their needs by rallying their members, and funding their campaigns.
7. Whenever a situation like this happens, and police are pulled back in large urban areas, violent crime increases (per the article I posted with stats, and given what we already see).
8. If the gov (dem or republican) controls funding, contract and policy approval, and appoints leadership, aren't all failures squarely on the gov?
9. If the overwhelming majority of issues/consent-decrees, and overwhelming majority of the highest violent crime cities are under dem/progressive control, why should we even contemplate another radical progressive idea such as "defunding", instead of changing out the gov that created the train wreck in the first place.
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I'll answer on the Camden topic now....
Camden was under Dem control for decades, and was so corrupt, 3 of the mayors in the last 40 years were indicted on federal corruption charges. The "defunding" of their police department wasn't really "defunding". They busted the union and shifted policing from city level to county level. In fact, the number of police increased (IIRC, the force in the city almost doubled). If anything, you can call it a union-busting move paired with taking the PD out of the hands of corrupt city Dems. It's funny though, a couple years later, the FOP union was voted back in.... They did some great things, but calling it "defunding" is disingenuous. It's also a small city so not really comparable on the scale of the large cities we're talking about.
So how about we union bust, and take PDs out of City gov's hands? I'm all down for that!
