Police State USA

[Irish#1]

Isn't their reason that the rioters are attempting to burn down a federal courthouse?

I agree with your overall sentiment, but assuming Trump loses, is there any chance in hell that Biden doesn't give all of these cities federal aid?

Good point, I totally forgot about the courthouse itself. Just withhold more funds to cover the cost of a new building?

 

[Irish#1]

Outside of your first two sentences, this is a not the way America works, Congress appropriates federal taxpayer money often for specific reasons in the form of grants, for instance. The CARES Act has sent lump sums to states to do as they wish in amounts varying by state for losses due to coronavirus.

You seem to be advocating that Congress as a whole not allocate any funding for one particular city and, in the case of allocations going to a state requiring that city not to receive any. Or that a President intervene in Congressional appropriations - something we have seen with this President and has been found in court as unconstitutional. He specifically targeted appropriations for Oregon and Portland's grants for funding the police.

Judge: Feds Wrongfully Interfered With $6M In Grants Over Oregon Sanctuary Law
(Oregon Public Broadcasting)

No other President has interfered with Congressional grants and considers those under his control to disburse. If he really wanted stronger police forces, he would not act to weaken those on a targeted basis. You seem to be advocating that type of illegality. Anything similar will continue to be found unconstitutional with the result being all those allocations over the years they are being illegally held up will go to those cities on resolution of those cases.

lol............Thanks for the government lesson. I realize I probably graduated HS long before you were born, but believe it or not, Government and U.S. History were requirements to graduate back in my day.

I noticed you have a hard time reading into things at times. Like police review boards. I mentioned several times to revamp them so review boards have the teeth to fire or hold the bad cops accountable. You kept referencing current police boards that don't work realizing the current structure of most boards don't allow for that. Also, please show me where I advocated for doing something illegal. I said withhold funds. Why can't withholding of funds be worked through Congress as a bill? I realize the likely hood of the happening is slim to none, but the overall point of my simple post was to show people there are consequences for breaking the law.

BTW.....I tried to read the article, but the Marxist newspaper said I had to turn off my ad blocker before I could read the article.

 

[Legacy]

Is there any evidence this is actually happening? Taken to places other than jails?

Yes. I gave you the link. Look it up from Oregonlive or many other sources. It's probably not on Fox News or the other right-wing sources.

As mentioned, the fed presence, Trump's remarks and their jack-booted responses has thrown gasoline on the fire. Despite his attempts assert federal control over states and cities, we still have a constitutional government based on federalism and not an imperial one.

Thousands protest in downtown Portland Monday; federal officers again respond with force
(Oregonlive)

Portland parent groups marched in droves to Monday night to join downtown protests in response to the repeated and nightly use of force by federal agents on demonstrators.

Portlanders first started protesting police violence against Black Americans in late May. It wasn’t until 31 days later that federal officers were first seen at the nightly demonstrations. In the weeks since, federal agents have used less-lethal munitions and gas on protesters numerous times.

Federal officers again set off gas and shot projectiles towards demonstrators gathered early Tuesday morning. The nearly hour-long confrontation began after midnight. Hundreds of people had packed into the courthouse entrance, and some people near the front line tore off plywood attached to the building. Federal officers responded in force.

Their actions have drawn scrutiny from Oregon officials and support from President Donald Trump. The president again praised federal law enforcement Monday, saying they were doing a fantastic job in Portland. Trump said he planned to replicate the response in other major U.S. cities led by Democratic mayors.

Monday night’s demonstrations started around 9 p.m. Two groups, called the Wall of Moms and PDXDadPod, marched from the riverfront to Justice Center. The jail is at the heart of nightly protests. Two federal buildings sit on either side of it.

Even before the parents’ groups arrived, more than 300 people had gathered near the downtown jail. Young Black community leaders used a megaphone to ask, “Whose lives matter?” Hundreds of people responded, “Black lives matter!”

The crowd roared when the parents’ march of several hundreds of people arrived just before 9 p.m. and joined the chant. Most were women wearing yellow shirts. One person held a sign that said, “Hey feds, you need to think about your sad choices — Mom.”

The mothers’ group also attended Sunday night’s demonstration, linking arms and standing at the front of a crowd. Some on Twitter called for the dads group to bring leaf blowers Monday in order to blow away tear gas federal officers have used often on protesters.

By 9:15 p.m., more than 1,000 people had gathered in the area. The crowds filled Southwest Third Avenue and the nearby park in front of the jail. Almost everyone wore masks. Some people stood on the steps of the jail and delivered speeches to rally the crowd. When one person asked how many mothers were in the crowd, several hundred people rose their hands.

Police at first stayed away from the crowd, which appeared to have grown beyond 2,000 people by 9:45 p.m. One speaker encouraged people to vote and told them how to register, drawing a wave of cheers. Another person explained how to react to tear gas and other uses of force: “Stay together. Stay tight. We do this every night.”
(cont)

Trump has been vocal about sending in unidentifiable federal forces to Chicago among other cities. Want to speculate on whether the crowd grows larger or smaller tonight?

The state and city have filed their lawsuits and have subpoena powers. The residents protesting last night shouted "Feds go home". Where do you think this is headed in Portland or if he tries this in other cities? He probably is still looking for ways to force the military to interject themselves. He sees no limits on his power.

 

[Sea Turtle]

Yes. I gave you the link. Look it up from Oregonlive or many other sources. It's probably not on Fox News or the other right-wing sources.

As mentioned, the fed presence, Trump's remarks and their jack-booted responses has thrown gasoline on the fire. Despite his attempts assert federal control over states and cities, we still have a constitutional government based on federalism and not an imperial one.

Thousands protest in downtown Portland Monday; federal officers again respond with force
(Oregonlive)



Trump has been vocal about sending in unidentifiable federal forces to Chicago among other cities. Want to speculate on whether the crowd grows larger or smaller tonight?

The state and city have filed their lawsuits and have subpoena powers. The residents protesting last night shouted "Feds go home". Where do you think this is headed in Portland or if he tries this in other cities? He probably is still looking for ways to force the military to interject themselves. He sees no limits on his power.

I'm just glad they brought their mommies with them to keep them safe.

 

[Legacy]

lol............Thanks for the government lesson. I realize I probably graduated HS long before you were born, but believe it or not, Government and U.S. History were requirements to graduate back in my day.

Your sarcasm is noted.

I noticed you have a hard time reading into things at times. Like police review boards. I mentioned several times to revamp them so review boards have the teeth to fire or hold the bad cops accountable.

I have to assume you missed my post on NYC's oversight board and the varying limitations of all the others I posted. Your remark on my reading comprehension is noted. Since you came to the same conclusion I made in my posts, why respond?

You kept referencing current police boards that don't work realizing the current structure of most boards don't allow for that. Also, please show me where I advocated for doing something illegal. I said withhold funds.

Yes. Those was my points. If you remember, NYC's oversight board recommended firing 175 officers that were reviewed by their PD resulting in one firing. Show me where I said that you advocated for doing something illegal about police boards or the police departments.

Why can't withholding of funds be worked through Congress as a bill? I realize the likely hood of the happening is slim to none, but the overall point of my simple post was to show people there are consequences for breaking the law.

Police funding? Or have you switched to withholding funds to cities? I'm confused. I guess that's my reading comprehension, though paragraphs do help if you are moving to another topic. Assuming you are referencing withholding federal funds from the city, which impacts funding for their PD, I made my point about our Constitutional processes as you learned in school.

BTW.....I tried to read the article, but the Marxist newspaper said I had to turn off my ad blocker before I could read the article.

I'll try to include more text in the articles I post. If you wouldn't mind, how many media sources do you not consider "Marxist"? I haven't checked but that would seem a topic worthy of our Conspiracy thread. Are you moving into the mindless zombies believing all they are fed under the control of a cabal of elite theme? Is that your understanding of the Portland protests are about? If you have an opportunity, could you post the Fox News article?

That does lead us back to the peaceful protesting for police oversight and accountability there, doesn't it.

 

[Legacy]

Trump to send federal agents to Chicago, maybe other cities (AP)

In a tweet Sunday, Trump blamed local leaders for violence in Chicago and other cities.

“The Radical Left Democrats, who totally control Biden, will destroy our Country as we know it. Unimaginably bad things would happen to America,” Trump tweeted, referring to his likely Democratic opponent, Joe Biden. “Look at Portland, where the pols are just fine with 50 days of anarchy. We sent in help. Look at New York, Chicago, Philadelphia. NO!”

 

[Irish#1]

As mentioned, the fed presence, Trump's remarks and their jack-booted responses has thrown gasoline on the fire. Despite his attempts assert federal control over states and cities, we still have a constitutional government based on federalism and not an imperial one.

They built their fire in a no camping area. Smokey Bear is not happy.

 

[NorthDakota]

Yes. I gave you the link. Look it up from Oregonlive or many other sources. It's probably not on Fox News or the other right-wing sources.

As mentioned, the fed presence, Trump's remarks and their jack-booted responses has thrown gasoline on the fire. Despite his attempts assert federal control over states and cities, we still have a constitutional government based on federalism and not an imperial one.

Thousands protest in downtown Portland Monday; federal officers again respond with force
(Oregonlive)



Trump has been vocal about sending in unidentifiable federal forces to Chicago among other cities. Want to speculate on whether the crowd grows larger or smaller tonight?

The state and city have filed their lawsuits and have subpoena powers. The residents protesting last night shouted "Feds go home". Where do you think this is headed in Portland or if he tries this in other cities? He probably is still looking for ways to force the military to interject themselves. He sees no limits on his power.

My understanding is these dumbasses tried lighting a federal courthouse on fire. The second they do that, nobody can pretend to be surprised when the Feds step up their presence in your city.

The videos I've seen out of Portland reflect much more poorly on the city than on the Feds. This is what happens when you let commie assholes do dumb shit for years without consequences.

ANTIFA needs to be destroyed.

 

[Sea Turtle]

My understanding is these dumbasses tried lighting a federal courthouse on fire. The second they do that, nobody can pretend to be surprised when the Feds step up their presence in your city.

The videos I've seen out of Portland reflect much more poorly on the city than on the Feds. This is what happens when you let commie assholes do dumb shit for years without consequences.

ANTIFA needs to be destroyed.

I guess at some point we are going to just have to agree to disagree with others on this forum.

We think the problem is protesters burning police cars, attacking the police and others and trying to burn down federal buildings.

Some think the problem is federal officers looking too scary and arresting the above and putting them in unmarked police vehicles.

 

[Irish#1]

Your sarcasm is noted.

I try.

I have to assume you missed my post on NYC's oversight board and the varying limitations of all the others I posted. Your remark on my reading comprehension is noted. Since you came to the same conclusion I made in my posts, why respond?

I read your posts on the oversight. The current set up doesn't work. We agree. Why did I respond? Perhaps it's my reading comprehension, but you continued to posts that review boards don't work. Just because it doesn't work doesn't mean you get rid of it. You make the changes so the review board is represented fairly for all concerns and you give it teeth to weed out the yahoos. Yet you kept responding they don't work, inferring that they need to be disbanded not fixed. If my car isn't running well, I don't get rid of it, I get it fixed.

Yes. Those was my points. If you remember, NYC's oversight board recommended firing 175 officers that were reviewed by their PD resulting in one firing. Show me where I said that you advocated for doing something illegal about police boards or the police departments.

You didn't say I advocate for doing something illegal about police boards. You asked if I was advocating for doing something illegal as it concerns to withholding federal funds and that's what I responded to.

Police funding? Or have you switched to withholding funds to cities? I'm confused. I guess that's my reading comprehension, though paragraphs do help if you are moving to another topic. Assuming you are referencing withholding federal funds from the city, which impacts funding for their PD, I made my point about our Constitutional processes as you learned in school.

I didn't switch anything. I'm not for reducing police funds. I'm for increasing it and using it for better applicant review, psychological testing before hiring, better training on the human side while in the academy and continued psychological testing once on the force. My point about withholding funds is to make a point that actions do have consequences.

I'll try to include more text in the articles I post. If you wouldn't mind, how many media sources do you not consider "Marxist"? I haven't checked but that would seem a topic worthy of our Conspiracy thread. Are you moving into the mindless zombies believing all they are fed under the control of a cabal of elite theme? Is that your understanding of the Portland protests are about? If you have an opportunity, could you post the Fox News article?

It was another joke loaded with sarcasm. I run into web sites all the time that want me to turn off the ad blocker.

That does lead us back to the peaceful protesting for police oversight and accountability there, doesn't it.

I have no problem with peaceful protesting. I grew up in the hippie era of protesting. I wore my hair long, wore bell bottom jeans that had an American flag sewn on the back pocket. Go for it. Just don't destroy property of any kind. As far as police oversight and accountability, if you haven't noticed, we agree there needs to be changes, do you not see that?

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

My understanding is these dumbasses tried lighting a federal courthouse on fire. The second they do that, nobody can pretend to be surprised when the Feds step up their presence in your city.

The videos I've seen out of Portland reflect much more poorly on the city than on the Feds. This is what happens when you let commie assholes do dumb shit for years without consequences.

ANTIFA needs to be destroyed.

They will run and scatter like the little cockroaches they are. Oh that reminds me...I was thinking we haven't seen our buddy GoIrish41 in months.

My guess...he's dressed in all black with a mask and torching either Philly or Baltimore, whichever is closer to him. If anyone on this board was ready to "burn it all down", that guy was.

 

[irishff1014]

https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Cops-15-injured-after-shooting-outside-Chicago-15425213.php

This is all you need to know about Chicago. People at a funeral aren't safe. The beetle juice looking Mayor needs to be ousted. Another liberal mayor that can't stop the high percentage of violent crime in the city. Hope people stop visiting place like this and New York City and other cities so that way they stop getting the tourist money. And when this happens If business close it be the cities fault for not doing what they are supposed too. I don't ever want to see someone lose their business that they worked for and put their blood and sweat into. But the democrats have made it clear the only way they fix this is if it starts hurting peoples pockets. I and am not so sure they even care about that because they want the feds to pay for it.

 

[Irish#1]

https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Cops-15-injured-after-shooting-outside-Chicago-15425213.php

This is all you need to know about Chicago. People at a funeral aren't safe. The beetle juice looking Mayor needs to be ousted. Another liberal mayor that can't stop the high percentage of violent crime in the city. Hope people stop visiting place like this and New York City and other cities so that way they stop getting the tourist money. And when this happens If business close it be the cities fault for not doing what they are supposed too. I don't ever want to see someone lose their business that they worked for and put their blood and sweat into. But the democrats have made it clear the only way they fix this is if it starts hurting peoples pockets. I and am not so sure they even care about that because they want the feds to pay for it.

Saw that this morning. Just stupid crazy. Heard NYC's murder rate jumped over 300%.

 

[NorthDakota]

They will run and scatter like the little cockroaches they are. Oh that reminds me...I was thinking we haven't seen our buddy GoIrish41 in months.

My guess...he's dressed in all black with a mask and torching either Philly or Baltimore, whichever is closer to him. If anyone on this board was ready to "burn it all down", that guy was.

Nah GI41 hasn't been seen on here since he tried claiming he lived in a more populated area than I did and my rural living was the reason I was ignorant to the virus.

I asked where it was he was living that was more populated and more affected by the virus because I was living in Manhattan at the time. I don't think he has posted since.

 

[irishff1014]

Saw that this morning. Just stupid crazy. Heard NYC's murder rate jumped over 300%.

De Blasio is proud that their population in the jails is way down since they released so many inmates due to covid. How's that working out for you? Even though he claims its has nothing to do with that.

 

[Irishize]

Nah GI41 hasn't been seen on here since he tried claiming he lived in a more populated area than I did and my rural living was the reason I was ignorant to the virus.

I asked where it was he was living that was more populated and more affected by the virus because I was living in Manhattan at the time. I don't think he has posted since.

Manhattan? That’s where The NY Times calls home correct? Wasn’t that land ripped off from the Native Americans for a box of trinkets? Why hasn’t The NY Times returned that land to the rightful owners after they said as much about Mount Rushmore & other landmarks?

 

[NorthDakota]

Manhattan? That’s where The NY Times calls home correct? Wasn’t that land ripped off from the Native Americans for a box of trinkets? Why hasn’t The NY Times returned that land to the rightful owners after they said as much about Mount Rushmore & other landmarks?

Preach brother. Return all land to the tribes!!!

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Nah GI41 hasn't been seen on here since he tried claiming he lived in a more populated area than I did and my rural living was the reason I was ignorant to the virus.

I asked where it was he was living that was more populated and more affected by the virus because I was living in Manhattan at the time. I don't think he has posted since.

It took him a year to recover from the 2016 election before he came back. Might need some time. IE's human pinyata...

 

[NorthDakota]

It took him a year to recover from the 2016 election before he came back. Might need some time. IE's human pinyata...

LMAO all he would have had to say is "oh whoops. I just assumed from the username that you live in a place that hasn't been hit by the 'rona yet." His ego is too fragile to do that though.

 

[Irish#1]

Manhattan? That’s where The NY Times calls home correct? Wasn’t that land ripped off from the Native Americans for a box of trinkets? Why hasn’t The NY Times returned that land to the rightful owners after they said as much about Mount Rushmore & other landmarks?

Reminds me of a bit that George Carlin did.

 

[Irishize]

Reminds me of a bit that George Carlin did.

Carlin would not be a fan of the current “cancel culture” and wokeness. RIP

 

[Legacy]

I try.



I read your posts on the oversight. The current set up doesn't work. We agree. Why did I respond? Perhaps it's my reading comprehension, but you continued to posts that review boards don't work. Just because it doesn't work doesn't mean you get rid of it. You make the changes so the review board is represented fairly for all concerns and you give it teeth to weed out the yahoos. Yet you kept responding they don't work, inferring that they need to be disbanded not fixed. If my car isn't running well, I don't get rid of it, I get it fixed.

I continue to advocate for changes to police oversight, establishing them where they don't exist, boards that have both community, legal and police on them, eliminating mechanisms that put the same police back on the force. I see the problem is your inferences.

You didn't say I advocate for doing something illegal about police boards. You asked if I was advocating for doing something illegal as it concerns to withholding federal funds and that's what I responded to.

Why not answer the question rather than respond that I am accusing you of something?

I didn't switch anything. I'm not for reducing police funds. I'm for increasing it and using it for better applicant review, psychological testing before hiring, better training on the human side while in the academy and continued psychological testing once on the force. My point about withholding funds is to make a point that actions do have consequences.

How many times do police forces issue a verbal reprimand, remind them of policy learned in their training and put them back in the field? Psych testing may eliminate a few in hiring, but for those on the force, increasing a process that never results in firing now may be a pipe dream.

Actions have consequences is now something that communities and city counsels consider in annual police budgets. If that's what you are advocating, we are in agreement.

It was another joke loaded with sarcasm. I run into web sites all the time that want me to turn off the ad blocker.

Italics help clear up any sarcastic comment on the Marxist Oregon news site. We are again in agreement that statements that media sources are Marxist or the enemies of the people as Stalin first termed them should raise concerns when they are used. and politically motivated.

I have no problem with peaceful protesting. I grew up in the hippie era of protesting. I wore my hair long, wore bell bottom jeans that had an American flag sewn on the back pocket. Go for it. Just don't destroy property of any kind. As far as police oversight and accountability, if you haven't noticed, we agree there needs to be changes, do you not see that?

Neither do I and would have been firmly in your corner should you have protested or choose to now. You can attend a peaceful protest in your town to see who is involved and their reasons if you wish. Weren't Daly's actions in 1968 in Chicago termed a Police State? We again agree on that. Yes, I see that.

Daly used dogs and batons on the crowd. Trump said protestors could be met with "vicious dogs" and that “When somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is total.” with regard to states' rights. Take a stance on those remarks if you wish.

His actions raise significant Constitutional questions - the 1st, 4th, and 10th Amendments - of which you are aware. Trump: "They (camouflaged and unidentifiable federal forces) grab them, a lot of people in jail." He's doubling down by sending fed forces to many other cities.

Michael Dorf, a constitutional law professor at Cornell University: "What they can’t do without an invitation from Portland and/or Oregon is attempt to enforce Oregon laws or Portland ordinances. Those are state and local responsibilities . If the situation were such that you thought that the city of Portland was conspiring with people who are rioting and violating federal rights, then there might be authority for some federal action."

This raises the question about whether the self-termed law and order President respects our laws.

Trump: “I don’t need invitations by the state, state mayors or state governors to do our job. We’re going to do that, whether they like us there or not.”

The message is that Stalin's "enemies of the state" is who Trump says they are?

 

[OrlaNDomer]

I continue to advocate for changes to police oversight, establishing them where they don't exist, boards that have both community, legal and police on them, eliminating mechanisms that put the same police back on the force. I see the problem is your inferences.



Why not answer the question rather than respond that I am accusing you of something?




How many times do police forces issue a verbal reprimand, remind them of policy learned in their training and put them back in the field? Psych testing may eliminate a few in hiring, but for those on the force, increasing a process that never results in firing now may be a pipe dream.

Actions have consequences is now something that communities and city counsels consider in annual police budgets. If that's what you are advocating, we are in agreement.




Italics help clear up any sarcastic comment on the Marxist Oregon news site. We are again in agreement that statements that media sources are Marxist or the enemies of the people as Stalin first termed them should raise concerns when they are used. and politically motivated.


Neither do I and would have been firmly in your corner should you have protested or choose to now. You can attend a peaceful protest in your town to see who is involved and their reasons if you wish. Weren't Daly's actions in 1968 in Chicago termed a Police State? We again agree on that. Yes, I see that.

Daly used dogs and batons on the crowd. Trump said protestors could be met with "vicious dogs" and that “When somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is total.” with regard to states' rights. Take a stance on those remarks if you wish.

His actions raise significant Constitutional questions - the 1st, 4th, and 10th Amendments - of which you are aware. Trump: "They (camouflaged and unidentifiable federal forces) grab them, a lot of people in jail." He's doubling down by sending fed forces to many other cities.

Michael Dorf, a constitutional law professor at Cornell University: "What they can’t do without an invitation from Portland and/or Oregon is attempt to enforce Oregon laws or Portland ordinances. Those are state and local responsibilities . If the situation were such that you thought that the city of Portland was conspiring with people who are rioting and violating federal rights, then there might be authority for some federal action."

This raises the question about whether the self-termed law and order President respects our laws.

Trump: “I don’t need invitations by the state, state mayors or state governors to do our job. We’re going to do that, whether they like us there or not.”

The message is that Stalin's "enemies of the state" is who Trump says they are?

So Trump is right.

 

[Legacy]

So Trump is right.

To be determined court on the constitutional issues.

Meanwhile, Portland bans police from working with federal law enforcement, targeting journalists and legal observers during protests


A judge has issued a restraining order barring the Feds from arresting and targeting journalists and legal observers, saying they "shall not be required to disperse following the issuance of an order to disperse, and such persons shall not be subject to arrest for not dispersing following the issuance of an order to disperse.”

The judge previously directed police not to arrest, threaten to arrest or use force against a person “who they know or reasonably should know” is a journalist or legal observer. Officers aren’t to seize their cameras, audio or videotaping equipment or press passes unless they have probable cause to believe a crime has been committed, the order says.

Journalists and legal observers wear distinctive, well-recognized clothing with identification. Some have been arrested despite identifiying themselves. The judge issued the order so that they could exercise their fundamental right to record and observe police activities at these important protests. The DOJ counsel has said that such restrictions would be unworkable for federal officers in arguing against any restrictions on federal police.

 

[Irishize]

Should be a helluva weekend in Seattle. During a pandemic no less!

Now maybe there’s a little hope...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The DOJ persuaded a federal judge late Friday to block Seattle’s law prohibiting police from using pepper spray, blast balls & similar weapons. | <a href="https://t.co/CGTXz4J0TJ">https://t.co/CGTXz4J0TJ</a></p>— Mike (@Doranimated) <a href="https://twitter.com/Doranimated/status/1286961578940813313?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Circa]

So Trump is right.

He's as right as Truman was while we fought Korea.

 

[Legacy]

Looks like the sky is falling in Seattle. (Twitter can be used for those who want to push any agenda)

Did all the Seattle City Council's restrictions make it to Twitter or Fox?

The Council unanimously prohibited the Seattle Police Department from using crowd control devices including chemical agents, dangerous chokeholds, and mourning badges that cover an officer’s badge number.

Somehow this incomplete narrative conveniently eliminates the fact that on JUNE 11th, a federal court today issued a temporary restraining order preventing the Seattle Police Department from using chemical agents and other weapons against protesters. In issuing the order, U.S. District Court Judge Richard Jones stated that "Plaintiffs have made a clear showing of a likelihood of success on the merits on their First Amendment claim,” and that “both testimonial and video evidence establish that SPD likely violated Plaintiffs’ Fourth Amendment rights."

Fox, in addition to having digitally altered photos of the disturbances, titles a recent article "US protests: More riots and lawlessness in cities across nation". No wonder many who get their news from that rag equate protests with the lawlessness by fringe elements.

Another night of rioting and lawlessness exploded in more than half a dozen U.S. cities Saturday night -- with the mayhem including damage to federal buildings, local police precincts, and a fatal shooting in Austin, Texas.

If you are irresponsible enough to alter photos and promote the feeling that rioting is rampant across America, and selectively eliminating prior federal judge's restraining orders and violations of civil rights by police, that is beyond media bias and the definition of manipulation of the public.

The Council's unanimous decision reinforces the federal court order.

 

[ulukinatme]

Seriously, like Seattle hasn't been a mess this summer? Nobody is disputing that actions like dangerous chokeholds should be prohibited, but police should still be able to do their jobs. They can't do that without the proper tools. Banning non-lethal forms of crowd dispersal like pepper spray and other chemical deterrents effectively handcuffs police and prevents them from pacifying violent crowds. The hands off approach is what initially led Seattle to establishing the CHAZ to begin with, along with a loss of lives as the lawlessness was allowed to run rampant. George Floyd's name will be remembered forever, but the sad truth is nobody is glorifying the men that died inside CHAZ. They're forgotten casualties. It took a few deaths before the local government finally wised up and shut it down...but yeah, the media are the real criminals here because they're focusing on the non-lethal forms of crowd control that Seattle was trying to prohibit.

 

[Irishize]

Seriously, like Seattle hasn't been a mess this summer? Nobody is disputing that actions like dangerous chokeholds should be prohibited, but police should still be able to do their jobs. They can't do that without the proper tools. Banning non-lethal forms of crowd dispersal like pepper spray and other chemical deterrents effectively handcuffs police and prevents them from pacifying violent crowds. The hands off approach is what initially led Seattle to establishing the CHAZ to begin with, along with a loss of lives as the lawlessness was allowed to run rampant. George Floyd's name will be remembered forever, but the sad truth is nobody is glorifying the men that died inside CHAZ. They're forgotten casualties. It took a few deaths before the local government finally wised up and shut it down...but yeah, the media are the real criminals here because they're focusing on the non-lethal forms of crowd control that Seattle was trying to prohibit.

What do you mean? CHAZ is just a peaceful stree fair. How else can they prevent needless deaths like that of George Floyd unless they burn buildings & loot businesses!?!?!?

 

[Bishop2b5]

https://www.dailywire.com/news/top-...riots-in-portland-are-a-myth?utm_source=Jeeng

Holy cow! Democrat House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler denies there's rioting and violence in Portland and that it's just a myth being spread in DC. Nadler was approached by journalist Austen Fletcher and asked if he disavowed the violent riots.

“It is true. There’s violence across the whole country,” Fletcher said.

Fletcher asked, “Do you disavow the violence from Antifa that’s happening in Portland right now? There’s riots—”

“That’s a myth that’s being spread only in Washington, D.C.,” Nadler claimed without evidence.

“About Antifa in Portland?” Fletcher pressed.

“Yes—” Nadler once again claimed without evidence. An aide rushed in and ushered Congressman Nadler away at that point as Fletcher suggested that Adler look online at all the videos from the Portland rioting. There's video of the exchange in the above link.

I don't even know where to start with this. A ranking congressman refuses to even acknowledge the violence and admit it's happening. Is he this clueless or is he being dishonest?