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Except that the p and the b, and the e and the u, are way to far away from each other to have fat fingered it on any keyboard that I know of.......... nice try, though.
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Except that the p and the b, and the e and the u, are way to far away from each other to have fat fingered it on any keyboard that I know of.......... nice try, though.
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LOL....... actually, the girl who hosted the party is black.
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Nice forensic level breakdown of a Smart phone keyboard. You should be a private dick.
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The Craig Ranch HOA "Amenity Usage Policy":
http://www.craigranchliving.com/Res... rental usage policy.pdf&doc_id=59648&print=1
Note that:
http://www.craigranchliving.com/Res... rental usage policy.pdf&doc_id=59648&print=1
Note that:
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I'm a very public dick, in case you weren't aware. So you admit to trying to cover up your ignorance with a lie?
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Yeah, he's a very public dick.....
Does that make you Super Dick so to speak since you're out in the public eye defending all that is just. What I do see is that you're using a typo as a critical talking point to tear my argument to pieces. Lol.
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Someone just sent me this...
The Full Story of The McKinney Texas, Pool Mob – Inside The “Craig Ranch” Subdivision… | The Last Refuge
The Full Story of The McKinney Texas, Pool Mob – Inside The “Craig Ranch” Subdivision… | The Last Refuge
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It was actually intended to produce a chuckle. If you had responded with a simple "mea culpa", it would have ended there. I found your sarcasm about 14 year olds being such a threat to life and limb to be pretty disrespectful to police officers, much in the same way that people shouting "Baby Killer" at returning Vietnam Vets was disrespectful. I think the cop over-reacted in just about every way possible, except in drawing his weapon, which he did not aim at anyone. And it sure seems like he was not the only one who thought that those two guys might have been a threat, considering two of the other officers went chasing after them. I do think that these cops are not racist thugs, but that they fall back on their training in these situations. And I think we ought to be educating the public about their training, and critically examining it.
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Reading that whole story... the whole thing seems ridiculous. Worst thing that happened was that one girl - who refused to comply with instructions multiple times - got maybe some superficial injuries.
Meanwhile it's confirmed now that basically 100% of those teens were trespassing and/or drinking and/or on drugs and that there was no right to have a pool party, period.
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Where are you getting that from?
Edit: not the trespassing part but the drinking and drugs part
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Does that mean pulling a gun out was proper protocol? To me, that and the rough treatment of the teenager seems like a bigger issue.
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Sorry, that's phrased pretty poorly with the "and/ors" ... not saying 100% were drinking or on drugs but multiple home owners from the community now have said there were some smoking weed or drinking.
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Look, I'm pretty critical of police... the cop got run up on by a couple people and pulled his weapon... those people admit they were coming to "help" her... for all I know that action diffused the situation and prevented something worse from happening.
Heck, I had a friend stopped for tags that were one month expired and the cops pulled guns on him approaching the car. He's white. No one got shot.
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Before Gray Arrest, Prosecutors Called For More Cops « CBS Baltimore
And this prosecutor is leaving the police out to dry and the were enforcing something SHE wanted.
And this prosecutor is leaving the police out to dry and the were enforcing something SHE wanted.
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It was probably suggested to him that he resign.
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The guy just seems like someone who doesn't have the demeanor to be a police officer. He really looks like someone who can't keep their cool. Being a police officer is a tough job, and because it's so tough only people who can handle it should be police officers.
I think the country, completely regardless of racial tension in the cities, is kinda getting fed up with Rambo cops like this who escalate situations needlessly and/or act like hardasses in everything they do. In many ways this is really the sort of thing police departments around the country should be cracking down on, as it both degrades the public trust and puts officers in greater danger. Seriously he's not only a bad representative of the state, shit like this puts him and his fellow officers in greater danger.
Maybe if the cop had been a calmer fella be would be cognizant of the fact that he has other police officers on site, in the middle of the day, with dozens of witnesses and even cameras around to make the likelihood of those two hurting him a very unlikely possibility. Could they have? Yeah definitely. Should the reaction from an officer be to pull your weapon and step towards them? No, find another line of work. If you can't handle a pool party you can't handle the degenerates.
And that's ridiculous.
I think the country, completely regardless of racial tension in the cities, is kinda getting fed up with Rambo cops like this who escalate situations needlessly and/or act like hardasses in everything they do. In many ways this is really the sort of thing police departments around the country should be cracking down on, as it both degrades the public trust and puts officers in greater danger. Seriously he's not only a bad representative of the state, shit like this puts him and his fellow officers in greater danger.
Maybe if the cop had been a calmer fella be would be cognizant of the fact that he has other police officers on site, in the middle of the day, with dozens of witnesses and even cameras around to make the likelihood of those two hurting him a very unlikely possibility. Could they have? Yeah definitely. Should the reaction from an officer be to pull your weapon and step towards them? No, find another line of work. If you can't handle a pool party you can't handle the degenerates.
And that's ridiculous.
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So if I don't break a law, but am disrespectful to a cop there should be consequences including physical consequences? The first amendment should be suspended when interacting with a sworn officer paid by you to uphold those very same amendments? How do you define disrespectful? How do I? How does that police officer? How does a law abiding muslim at that mosque you love to talk about define disrespectful? Should there be consequences if any of those teenagers felt disrespected by the "go back to section 8" comments?
On another note besides the police and the politicians that write the laws, what other human beings do you give authority over yourself and your family?
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Just to point out, some of them were invited, so they weren't all trespassing.
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The picture doesn't state who started it, so yes there may have been a fight but it doesn't mean that they were only at fault. I am not saying that they are completely innocent but that picture only tells a second in time, nothing before it and nothing after it.
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Oh, well it's fine then.
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No, that is inaccurate initial reporting. Every single person in that video was breaking the rules and trespassing.
Pool parties at that pool are capped at 20 people... not 130... and have to arranged beforehand. The "promoter" of the party did not do that. And while she was a resident and allowed access to the pool, she is only allowed to bring two guests. Well over 90%+ (and everyone in the video) had no grounds to be there whatsoever under any circumstance... and even the resident and her up to 2 guests were legally asked to leave for breaking the rules.
Two security guards were assaulted when they tried to make people who were illegally there leave the premises. Then they called the cops. And then when they ignored instructions to disperse, then that girl got taken down.
Did that cop act badly? Sure, he's the only one running around without a cool head of the multitude of officers that are there. I'm not really defending his actions, I'm more anti the idea that this incident is somehow a big deal.
Do I think #blacklivesmatter and all the outcry applies to a situation where someone in violation of the law refused to comply with instructions got taken down forcefully with no serious injury? No. Do I think drawing a gun matters if the cop correctly used restraint and no one was injured by the firearm? No.
I think the police accountability movement gets discredited when people try to make a huge deal out of a situation where no one got hurt AND all the initial facts are wrong AND you have black home owners in that neighborhood outspoken about how the narrative is bullshit AND the instigators of #DimePieceCookout are frantically trying to scrub that fact from social media... like that would be happening if they were all in the right on this...
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Slow down there, Dr. Joyce Brothers. I was just asking to clarify his position. I did not want to assume that he meant one thing, if he actually was saying something else. It was an honest question about where he stood. It wasn't a statement about anything.
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I poorly worded my post. They probably didn't feel like they were trespassing as they felt that they were invited. The people who really are at fault are the people who set the event up (yes they didn't get permission).
Also I never brought up anything about racism, etc. I don't even think that the cop should be fired/forced to resign. I do think that maybe he should have been given a drug test and some additional training but that is all. I have never claimed racism, just that he overreacted, and was overly aggressive (all things that in my opinion fit the facts).
If you want to talk racism, one of the people pushing the racism narrative was the teenager taking the video, he was white and watched all of his friends (black) being commanded around by the police officers, while they left him alone (he is white). Again, I don't think the cop was racist and I don't think that the situation was racially motivated but if you want to present the views from one side, I think that it is important that the other side gets heard as well.
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Well somebody needs to help you confront the underlying issues in your psyche. Speaking of asking honest questions about where somebody stood, I asked several, and you ducked like Mother Goose.
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One man's convictions are another man's underlying issues... I must have missed your honest questions........ fire away.
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My favorite part is the multitude of kids just sitting down. They obviously have been told to sit down and shut up if you get in a situation like that, kudos to them and their parents/teachers. Isn't that the better lesson to take from all this race baiting BS?
The morons running around badgering officers are asking to get shot or Tasered. F-ing stupid to run around to approach an officer from behind who trying to subdue someone while you yell God knows what. The kids sitting down are a roll model to show other kids, hey - if crap hits the fan. Sit down and shut up with your hands where we can see them.
The morons running around badgering officers are asking to get shot or Tasered. F-ing stupid to run around to approach an officer from behind who trying to subdue someone while you yell God knows what. The kids sitting down are a roll model to show other kids, hey - if crap hits the fan. Sit down and shut up with your hands where we can see them.
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Boom! (on multiple levels)
1) Sit down, shut up
2) Do not obstruct an officer/detainee
3) Do not resist, regardless of the situation
4) The media is totally race-baiting this story