Pandemonium at 4HL over Tee Tweets

[DomeLover3]

I would love nothing more than Tee coming back. haha.

Who is your source for this

"Finish some things up in the classroom first, and was confident he would get that done."

I think for Tee to have a shot at coming back he'd need the staff to answer him first, sounds like their relationship is strained, IMO

 

[In Lou I Trust]

There is one circumstance I see Tee coming back to ND in.

Let's say ND strikes out at CB this cycle.

LJ Moore has already decided he would like to go to Notre Dame

He decides to use his leverage to say he will go elsewhere if the coaches do not take Tee.

I dont think Coach Kelly would be backed into a corner by a recruit, and we'd then miss on LJ and Tee.

Color me confused...

 

[cody1smith]

Would love to see it due to lack of depth. But are we not sitting pretty good with several true corners?

 

[DomeLover3]

We'll I could be wrong on Coach Kelly not letting himself be backed into a corner, and then we'd take Tee and LJ... Forgot to include that. haha

 

[Grahambo]

For the record, I don't believe Tee is returning but would love him back.

I'll bite on the hypothetical though. BK has no say if Tee enrolled back into ND. He can't stop that nor would I even think he would try to. This is in response about Tee not getting a hold of BK and BK apparently not wanting to talk to Tee (whatever the rumor was).

If Tee wants back in bad enough, nobody can stop him.

 

[DomeLover3]

Willis and Alexander are considering us, Hargreaves is a longshot at CB

 

[DomeLover3]

Tee won't be admitted as a student without football...

Though I'd love for him to do that.

 

[jimmymac]

For the record, I don't believe Tee is returning but would love him back.

I'll bite on the hypothetical though. BK has no say if Tee enrolled back into ND. He can't stop that nor would I even think he would try to. This is in response about Tee not getting a hold of BK and BK apparently not wanting to talk to Tee (whatever the rumor was).

If Tee wants back in bad enough, nobody can stop him.

Umm..... I'm prettty sure he can't get in on academics, so if BK doesn't want him back, he won't be at ND...

 

[tadman95]

For the record, I don't believe Tee is returning but would love him back.

I'll bite on the hypothetical though. BK has no say if Tee enrolled back into ND. He can't stop that nor would I even think he would try to. This is in response about Tee not getting a hold of BK and BK apparently not wanting to talk to Tee (whatever the rumor was).

If Tee wants back in bad enough, nobody can stop him.

Can you elaborate? I don't follow how he can just come back? I would have thought he gave up his scholarship.

 

[Grahambo]

Umm..... I'm prettty sure he can't get in on academics, so if BK doesn't want him back, he won't be at ND...

Can you elaborate? I don't follow how he can just come back? I would have thought he gave up his scholarship.

Facepalm to the both of you.

Word of advice, don't always take things at face value, read between the lines sometimes.

If Tee wants back in bad enough, he will work his *** off academically. Nobody can stop him but himself.

 

[DomeLover3]

Grahambo I respect you as a poster but you're being naive here.

His past academic record would not have allowed him into ND without football in the first place. Colleges look at high school record when transferring.

Even if he did get in, what are the odds he'd be able to pay without a scholarship?

There is literally no way he could get into ND without football

 

[jimmymac]

Facepalm to the both of you.

Word of advice, don't always take things at face value, read between the lines sometimes.

If Tee wants back in bad enough, he will work his *** off academically. Nobody can stop him but himself.

... I'm not going to have an argument over whether Tee could academically get into ND bc it's stupid. He could barely (probably not even) QUALIFY to get into ND based off of academics let alone get into ND because of them... Not a shot at Tee but it's not realistic to think otherwise.

 

[Irish#1]

Rumor it is not. It has been confirmed several times that Tee is in fact in the works of trying to coming back. Now, as far as it happening? Doubt it. Hope, but doubt it. However, since NONE of us really know what Tee would need to do to get back in, you just never know.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to have him and I probably shouldn't have used the word rumor, but it still doesn't change anything. Like I said go back to the basics and it's just not going to happen. If there was something solid to this, I think we would have heard something from the Irish side and not just from Tee.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

There's a big difference between Tee unilaterally "working to get back to ND", and the coaching staff working on getting him back.

It sounds like he had the grades/ courses, but his ACT score wasn't high enough to qualify. So, theoretically, he could improve his ACT score and remove the only external obstacle to his return.

Then the question becomes: does the staff want him back? We're all tempted to say "Of course!" because they were previously high on him, and he plays at a position of dire need for us. But the staff refusing to take his calls could be a major red flag-- as in, after having him on campus for 6 weeks, they now have serious doubts about his ability to succeed as a student at ND. Or maybe he was a poor cultural fit, and they think the odds of him getting into trouble at some point is too high to risk bringing him back.

Or maybe they're just unable to talk to him due to recruiting rules. Until we get more information from a credible source, there's little point in speculating.

 

[DomeLover3]

Tee will not get back to ND independently from the football team.

Whiskey has pointed out perhaps the staff can't talk to Tee because of recruiting rules. Valid point, plausible explanation.

To my understanding, the relationship with the staff is damaged and the staff does not want him back.

Thats how I see it. Hopefully Whiskey is right and its just a matter of recruiting rules.

 

[Grahambo]

... I'm not going to have an argument over whether Tee could academically get into ND bc it's stupid. He could barely (probably not even) QUALIFY to get into ND based off of academics let alone get into ND because of them... Not a shot at Tee but it's not realistic to think otherwise.

Once again, if Tee or anybody else for that matter busted their *** to qualify academically, nobody can stop him/her. I don't care if he barely this or barely that. Life lesson for you: never count anybody out of doing anything. You would be surprised at what someone can do if they try harder. Life lesson #2: when somebody disagrees, don't automatically assume its an argument.

Grahambo I respect you as a poster but you're being naive here.

His past academic record would not have allowed him into ND without football in the first place. Colleges look at high school record when transferring.

Even if he did get in, what are the odds he'd be able to pay without a scholarship?

There is literally no way he could get into ND without football

So its naive for me to believe in someone to be able to do something he has previously failed in? I don't care about him and football. I care about him and academics.

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

I just wish we all knew for sure what the story was. I guess time will tell.

 

[DomeLover3]

I want him to do it too Grahambo but his past academic record has caused serious damage to his chances of admission. Hopefully Tee rejoins ND.

 

[Grahambo]

I want him to do it too Grahambo but his past academic record has caused serious damage to his chances of admission. Hopefully Tee rejoins ND.

Me too. I always want the best for everyone.

 

[enrico514]

I can't see the staff not taking his calls (as rumoured)... they recruited him, got him on campus and must have developed some sort of relationship with the kid. After all this they at the very least owe it to him to let him know where he stands. If they didn't do this I would be greatly disappointed in them.

It's not hard to tell a kid... it's not going to happen for you here.

IMHO... If Tee is doing the work to try to get back into ND I would assume he was told what he needed to do... or else why go through this process??? It can't be that he is missing all the attention he used to get when his name was associated with ND!

 

[Old Man Mike]

I know that this thread contains no speculation whatsoever, so I am a bit reluctant to report the following: I have just talked with a guy that I don't know on the street corner here in Wheeling. He tells me that he has just returned from a parallel universe where the odds that Tee will rejoin the team are 84%. He also reported that while there several people from other parallel Universes stated the odds in their realities at 2%, 19%, 37%, and full certainty. One Universe had every player on the Notre Dame team named Tee Shepherd, and we had field turf and a Jumbotron. Kelly was going for his third NC in a row, and Florida fans were griping about illegal recruiting practices at Vanderbilt.

That's all I know.

Take it for what it's worth.

 

[tadman95]

I know that this thread contains no speculation whatsoever, so I am a bit reluctant to report the following: I have just talked with a guy that I don't know on the street corner here in Wheeling. He tells me that he has just returned from a parallel universe where the odds that Tee will rejoin the team are 84%. He also reported that while there several people from other parallel Universes stated the odds in their realities at 2%, 19%, 37%, and full certainty. One Universe had every player on the Notre Dame team named Tee Shepherd, and we had field turf and a Jumbotron. Kelly was going for his third NC in a row, and Florida fans were griping about illegal recruiting practices at Vanderbilt.

That's all I know.

Take it for what it's worth.

So you feel good about this then?!

 

[Irishnuke]

No

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Guys, I realy need some rest. This must be the brolic that all Notre Dame fans feel because of the wait for fall camp. Guys it isn't even six weeks until kickoff!

Listen, you get a change with BK. When he is wrong he adimits it. Last year the options at positions we needed were thinner(per the 12 class). You saw off the wall behavior on the part of nearly a half-dozen players. I am sure Kelly is through that. I don't think working hard is it. I don't think a particular player is it. I think since Kelly has been here he has had horific luck at maintining his direction. That is what this is about.

 

[Cackalacky]

I know that this thread contains no speculation whatsoever, so I am a bit reluctant to report the following: I have just talked with a guy that I don't know on the street corner here in Wheeling. He tells me that he has just returned from a parallel universe where the odds that Tee will rejoin the team are 84%. He also reported that while there several people from other parallel Universes stated the odds in their realities at 2%, 19%, 37%, and full certainty. One Universe had every player on the Notre Dame team named Tee Shepherd, and we had field turf and a Jumbotron. Kelly was going for his third NC in a row, and Florida fans were griping about illegal recruiting practices at Vanderbilt.

That's all I know.

Take it for what it's worth.

Was he wearing a towel?

 

[Irish#1]

There's a big difference between Tee unilaterally "working to get back to ND", and the coaching staff working on getting him back.

It sounds like he had the grades/ courses, but his ACT score wasn't high enough to qualify. So, theoretically, he could improve his ACT score and remove the only external obstacle to his return.

Then the question becomes: does the staff want him back? We're all tempted to say "Of course!" because they were previously high on him, and he plays at a position of dire need for us. But the staff refusing to take his calls could be a major red flag-- as in, after having him on campus for 6 weeks, they now have serious doubts about his ability to succeed as a student at ND. Or maybe he was a poor cultural fit, and they think the odds of him getting into trouble at some point is too high to risk bringing him back.

Or maybe they're just unable to talk to him due to recruiting rules. Until we get more information from a credible source, there's little point in speculating.

These are all valid points. We've all heard the stories of him tweeting at 4:00AM.

My question, is if his grades were okay, but his ACT wasn't good enough how did he get in, in the first place?

 

[Whiskeyjack]

My question, is if his grades were okay, but his ACT wasn't good enough how did he get in, in the first place?

He was never truly admitted. As a 5 recruit at a position of great need for us, the University made an exception for him and allowed him to sign his LOI and "enroll" early, despite needing to improve his ACT to pass the NCAA Clearinghouse. That didn't happen, so he had to leave.

Edit: Some of the above is speculation, but I'm confident enough in it to stand by it.

 

[IrishLion]

He was never truly admitted. As a 5 recruit at a position of great need for us, the University made an exception for him and allowed him to sign his LOI and "enroll" early, despite needing to improve his ACT to pass the NCAA Clearinghouse. That didn't happen, so he had to leave.

Just speculating, but this leads to my belief that Tee promised BK that he would get his ACT up, and attend classes and put in the academic work, but did not follow through on that promise. BK and the staff took a shot on Tee, sticking their necks out in terms of the powers that be at admissions, and then were let down by Tee. And that's why they will not take his calls.

 

[MNIrish14]

Notre Dame Insider: Tunnel Vision

Tunnel Vision this week is about the Tee rumors. Anyone have access?

 

[woolybug25]

Just speculating, but this leads to my belief that Tee promised BK that he would get his ACT up, and attend classes and put in the academic work, but did not follow through on that promise. BK and the staff took a shot on Tee, sticking their necks out in terms of the powers that be at admissions, and then were let down by Tee. And that's why they will not take his calls.

I think we may be overestimating the hard feelings by the staff. I mean, they did go along with the ridiculous story about his heart condition to help him save face. When Aaron Lynch left, by his own free will, the coach made no bones about the fact that AL "quit the team". It seems like the staff had nothing but good things to say about Tee.