One Stop Rumors Thread?

[NDFAN420]

I like Shaun Davis but BD's not doing him any favors.

 

[Irish#1]

So much of this sounds like they are making it up from what little they do know.

I'm with you. If Tommy was really pissed, why not take that huge (if true) upgrade in pay and head down south? As asked before, what connections does Malik have? It's been a few years since he's been here. Teammates and most of the coaching staff are gone.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

It's possible Miami just wanted Rees and Gattis, and started with Rees with big money, and it was so much that Rees wasn't going to say "no thanks" to right away. He also has a GF, probably wanted to talk to her (or show off the offer), before ultimately saying no.

I doubt the co-OC from WV will worry Rees.

It's also a time honored method to get a raise from your current employer.

 

[ulukinatme]

I know this was a month and a half ago, but I'm not seeing animosity here and I doubt one coaching hire is coming between them. They're lookin' tight here. Was it not true that Freeman accepting the job was contingent on Rees and Balis being retained? You'd think if they weren't in a good place Rees would have followed Kelly to LSU.

 

[IrishRazor82]

To be honest, as long as it's not NSD week, the silliest thing Rees could do is immediately say "no" to an awesome Miami offer. If he says "no" immediately the best thing that can happen is nothing. If he let's it go for a couple of days, many good things can happen down the road: 1) Perhaps ND gives him a raise. 2) Perhaps he develops a relationship by talking to a coach with future potential (Cristobal). 3) He shows other's he's not blindly committed to ND, and if/when other opportunities come open, he's worth making a call to.

I wouldn't worry since Rees seems to have handled this exactly like his agent would as well as anyone else.

 

[Irish#1]

I thought Tommy got a raise when MF was hired or did I dream that?

 

[Rockin’Irish]

I thought Tommy got a raise when MF was hired or did I dream that?

You are correct, that was apparently part of him staying as OC.

 

[pumpdog20]

I like Shaun Davis but BD's not doing him any favors.

The six degrees of Bryan Driskell

 

[IrishRazor82]

I thought Tommy got a raise when MF was hired or did I dream that?

He did - allegedly a very good one that almost matched LSU.

 

[IrishLax]

From what I heard the money Miami is offering is best-in-class for all assistants. It's in the $2M range for coordinators (at least OC). Apparently, this was worked out by Cristobal as part of his negotiations -- he mandated that Miami be set up to compete like an Alabama in terms of financial commitments to staff and future NIL funding. And they've got some real estate billionaire who agreed in principle to finance the whole thing... he's also funding the development of a new stadium near campus.

I, personally, would bet on the "U" being back within 3 years. I'm more confident in Miami than I probably am in USC... I saw some interesting stats the other day about how Oklahoma actually got worse statistically on offense *every single year* under Riley after Stoops left. Literally consistent decline. The only thing that looks good for Riley on paper is playing in a very weak league. He also has to reboot culture from scratch, whereas he inherited winning culture from Stoops.

 

[StPaul_Irish]

The six degrees of Bryan Driskell

I'll play. Kevin Bacon was in Tremors with Reba.... NEXT

 

[notredomer23]

From what I heard the money Miami is offering is best-in-class for all assistants. It's in the $2M range for coordinators (at least OC). Apparently, this was worked out by Cristobal as part of his negotiations -- he mandated that Miami be set up to compete like an Alabama in terms of financial commitments to staff and future NIL funding. And they've got some real estate billionaire who agreed in principle to finance the whole thing... he's also funding the development of a new stadium near campus.

I, personally, would bet on the "U" being back within 3 years. I'm more confident in Miami than I probably am in USC... I saw some interesting stats the other day about how Oklahoma actually got worse statistically on offense *every single year* under Riley after Stoops left. Literally consistent decline. The only thing that looks good for Riley on paper is playing in a very weak league. He also has to reboot culture from scratch, whereas he inherited winning culture from Stoops.

In regards to Tommy, we're also talking about a 29 year old with no family of his own being a millionaire in Miami over South Bend... I think that alone says a lot about his devotion to the university. That or his bags are packed for LA.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

From what I heard the money Miami is offering is best-in-class for all assistants. It's in the $2M range for coordinators (at least OC). Apparently, this was worked out by Cristobal as part of his negotiations -- he mandated that Miami be set up to compete like an Alabama in terms of financial commitments to staff and future NIL funding. And they've got some real estate billionaire who agreed in principle to finance the whole thing... he's also funding the development of a new stadium near campus.

I, personally, would bet on the "U" being back within 3 years. I'm more confident in Miami than I probably am in USC... I saw some interesting stats the other day about how Oklahoma actually got worse statistically on offense *every single year* under Riley after Stoops left. Literally consistent decline. The only thing that looks good for Riley on paper is playing in a very weak league. He also has to reboot culture from scratch, whereas he inherited winning culture from Stoops.

Alex Grinch's track record has also been disappointing vis a vis his talent levels.

Personally, I think Oklahoma got the better of USC in the coaching changeover.

 

[NDohio]

From what I heard the money Miami is offering is best-in-class for all assistants. It's in the $2M range for coordinators (at least OC). Apparently, this was worked out by Cristobal as part of his negotiations -- he mandated that Miami be set up to compete like an Alabama in terms of financial commitments to staff and future NIL funding. And they've got some real estate billionaire who agreed in principle to finance the whole thing... he's also funding the development of a new stadium near campus.

I, personally, would bet on the "U" being back within 3 years. I'm more confident in Miami than I probably am in USC... I saw some interesting stats the other day about how Oklahoma actually got worse statistically on offense *every single year* under Riley after Stoops left. Literally consistent decline. The only thing that looks good for Riley on paper is playing in a very weak league. He also has to reboot culture from scratch, whereas he inherited winning culture from Stoops.

Dan Lambert. He owns cruise lines, real estate, and an MMA gym. He has wanted to buy a NFL franchise but has been denied so he has decided to turn the 'canes into his franchise. Gonna be crazy to see what they do with his money behind them.

 

[GoldenAura]

From what I heard the money Miami is offering is best-in-class for all assistants.

FWIW I've read from Miami fans that the reported total salary pool for assistants is 8 million.

 

[Dale]

Money is definitely a good sign for Miami in the future and they won’t tear the new facilities down when they need a new HC but I think Cristobal’s hires leave a lot to be desired. I’m in general a fan of Cristobal as some of my prior posts would indicate but he’s got to get his coordinator hires straightened out and he’s getting a bit of a rep and history out there. Recruiting he’ll have it rolling and he’s got the support part down.

 

[irishog77]

I'll play. Kevin Bacon was in Tremors with Reba.... NEXT

Reba was in North with Jussie Smollett...

 

[irishog77]

From what I heard the money Miami is offering is best-in-class for all assistants. It's in the $2M range for coordinators (at least OC). Apparently, this was worked out by Cristobal as part of his negotiations -- he mandated that Miami be set up to compete like an Alabama in terms of financial commitments to staff and future NIL funding. And they've got some real estate billionaire who agreed in principle to finance the whole thing... he's also funding the development of a new stadium near campus.

I, personally, would bet on the "U" being back within 3 years. I'm more confident in Miami than I probably am in USC... I saw some interesting stats the other day about how Oklahoma actually got worse statistically on offense *every single year* under Riley after Stoops left. Literally consistent decline. The only thing that looks good for Riley on paper is playing in a very weak league. He also has to reboot culture from scratch, whereas he inherited winning culture from Stoops.

Interesting. I had not heard that or considered that. Good point on the culture of the programs as well.

I think, though, that playing in the pac-12 will be a positive for riley. I mean if the big xii is very weak, then the pac-12 is:

 

[tussin]

From what I heard the money Miami is offering is best-in-class for all assistants. It's in the $2M range for coordinators (at least OC). Apparently, this was worked out by Cristobal as part of his negotiations -- he mandated that Miami be set up to compete like an Alabama in terms of financial commitments to staff and future NIL funding. And they've got some real estate billionaire who agreed in principle to finance the whole thing... he's also funding the development of a new stadium near campus.

I, personally, would bet on the "U" being back within 3 years. I'm more confident in Miami than I probably am in USC... I saw some interesting stats the other day about how Oklahoma actually got worse statistically on offense *every single year* under Riley after Stoops left. Literally consistent decline. The only thing that looks good for Riley on paper is playing in a very weak league. He also has to reboot culture from scratch, whereas he inherited winning culture from Stoops.

The U being back? Good, need a new program to hate. Anything to shift the winds away from this constant Bama, UGA, Clemson, OSU malaise that we have been in for seemingly 15 years now.

 

[ColinKSU]

From what I heard the money Miami is offering is best-in-class for all assistants. It's in the $2M range for coordinators (at least OC). Apparently, this was worked out by Cristobal as part of his negotiations -- he mandated that Miami be set up to compete like an Alabama in terms of financial commitments to staff and future NIL funding. And they've got some real estate billionaire who agreed in principle to finance the whole thing... he's also funding the development of a new stadium near campus.

I, personally, would bet on the "U" being back within 3 years. I'm more confident in Miami than I probably am in USC... I saw some interesting stats the other day about how Oklahoma actually got worse statistically on offense *every single year* under Riley after Stoops left. Literally consistent decline. The only thing that looks good for Riley on paper is playing in a very weak league. He also has to reboot culture from scratch, whereas he inherited winning culture from Stoops.

The problem Miami is going to run into is they don’t have a head coach good enough to win at the level their boosters and alums are going to expect.

 

[benneboy]

Lol. Let's pump the brakes on Miami being back. Cristobal is roughly a career .500 coach and Miami has been bad for nearing a couple decades.

 

[Ndaccountant]

Lol. Let's pump the brakes on Miami being back. Cristobal is roughly a career .500 coach and Miami has been bad for nearing a couple decades.

Yes, but being "good" overall coupled with playing in the ACC will bolster the narrative.

 

[Dale]

The problem Miami is going to run into is they don’t have a head coach good enough to win at the level their boosters and alums are going to expect.

Mario is going to have a damn long leash though and the boosters are behind him more than the school itself almost. With the level of talent he’s going to bring in, it’s going to be hard to be bad really, which is exactly what he showed at Oregon. Between that and the ACC schedule, the floor is a 8-4/9-3 type, which is exactly what Oregon was under Mario. I don’t see them going back to the dark ages of funding if that’s the result. They might not always back 2 million dollar coordinators but he’ll still have drastically elevated the floor of the program, which was way too low given their history and access.

 

[benneboy]

Mario is going to have a damn long leash though and the boosters are behind him more than the school itself almost. With the level of talent he’s going to bring in, it’s going to be hard to be bad really, which is exactly what he showed at Oregon. Between that and the ACC schedule, the floor is a 8-4/9-3 type, which is exactly what Oregon was under Mario. I don’t see them going back to the dark ages of funding if that’s the result. They might not always back 2 million dollar coordinators but he’ll still have drastically elevated the floor of the program, which was way too low given their history and access.

That's not a thing.

 

[NorthDakota]

The U can be back at any time. The ACC is not good right now. I hope they get good again. If their past is anything to judge them on, doesn't seem like they recruit much against ND?

 

[Dale]

That's not a thing.

It absolutely is. Mario is cut from the high energy could sell you on anything cloth. He’s their chosen son. If he produces like a 9-3 type floor he’ll continue to have the backing more than if Coach XYZ was producing a 9-3 floor.

 

[GoldenAura]

and the boosters are behind him more than the school itself almost.

Made me think of this. Plenty of people at UM aren't happy to have him.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article256465056.html#storylink=cpy

"Many UM professors and other faculty — forced to teach in person and accept compensation cuts during the COVID-19 pandemic — are fuming and say staff morale has plunged. Some members of the UM Faculty Senate view Mario Cristobal’s $80 million contract as only the latest sign of the administration’s disrespect for the academic staff at the private university."

"As part of deep pandemic cutbacks, the university had slashed more than $100 million in its matching contributions to faculty members’ retirement plans in the 2020-2021 academic year. Now, some faculty believe those cuts have helped bankroll lavish spending on athletics and construction projects and could hurt the school academically."

 

[benneboy]

It absolutely is. Mario is cut from the high energy could sell you on anything cloth. He’s their chosen son. If he produces like a 9-3 type floor he’ll continue to have the backing more than if Coach XYZ was producing a 9-3 floor.

I may have misread your post. I read.. boosters are behind him more than boosters are behind the school. Rereading I assume you meant boosters are behind him potentially more than the school is behind him. I could see the latter.

 

[StPaul_Irish]

Reba was in North with Jussie Smollett...

Unfortunately I think I can loosely get back to Driskell in 4... I LOL, tried to explain it to my wife... So now I am replying from the couch.

...I'll give someone else a go first.

 

[FDNYIrish1]

Smart move by Tommy to stay put. Infinitely harder to run from the cops on sand.