Oct 9 | Pittsburgh at Notre Dame

[NDFANnSouthWest]

F*** Omar and Trott

 

[jason_h537]

I'm watching Omar Hunter right now in the Florida game.



FU*K. URBAN. MEYER.

i'll take Ian Williams right now thank you

 

[NDFANnSouthWest]

Damn Ian has been solid....very underrated...I think Nix has big shoes to fill!

 

[Old Man Mike]

If anyone ever gives any of us BS about how we shouldn't have won the game, the, to me, indisputable intentional grounding in the endzone was two more points there, and us with the ball in good field position after their kick. Also, for the most part the game had the feel of Notre Dame stopping Pitt [God Bless The Defense Once Again] and Notre Dame stopping Notre Dame. The entire story was Notre Dame's execution. This may cause Brian Kelly to lose years of lifespan [I already see some melting away] but should give us some real optimism---just cogitate on the difference between the "ceiling" for our team vs the "ceiling" for Pitt for instance. This team is a newly tinkered together machine of huge potential power, but with some ornery loose nuts and bolts. If the offense ever gets "tightened up", Lordy, bar the door. I'm not claiming that we'll get there this year, but I bet we do.

 

[NDFANnSouthWest]

Old Man Mike....you are the MAN!

 

[IrishJayhawk]

It wasn't intentional grounding. The guy doesn't have to be looking at the QB. The ball can be barely towards him and straight at the ground. There was a receiver in the area.

He definitely intended to ground it. But, according to the rule, it wasn't intentional grounding.

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

If anyone ever gives any of us BS about how we shouldn't have won the game, the, to me, indisputable intentional grounding in the endzone was two more points there, and us with the ball in good field position after their kick. Also, for the most part the game had the feel of Notre Dame stopping Pitt [God Bless The Defense Once Again] and Notre Dame stopping Notre Dame. The entire story was Notre Dame's execution. This may cause Brian Kelly to lose years of lifespan [I already see some melting away] but should give us some real optimism---just cogitate on the difference between the "ceiling" for our team vs the "ceiling" for Pitt for instance. This team is a newly tinkered together machine of huge potential power, but with some ornery loose nuts and bolts. If the offense ever gets "tightened up", Lordy, bar the door. I'm not claiming that we'll get there this year, but I bet we do.

Every truly neutral ref in the country would have immediately called safety. I don't care what any "fan" says, the "pick" call would not have been called if Floyd hadn't scored. It was not a pick. PERIOD. The non calls against MSU. The AUTOMATIC phantom ticky tack calls whenever ND has a big play. Again, I don't care what any "fan" who tries to sound like a neutral gentleman says, ND has gotten screwed for a long time. So to the refs, on this game, because I feel like it, I say

Nani Nani!!!

 

[NDFANnSouthWest]

He buried the nose of the ball into the F**** ground....that my friends is intential grounding...

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Sorry Bambi...

I know we get screwed sometimes...but, that wasn't intentional grounding.

The pick? I don't know. Not familiar enough with the rules to be able to call that one. It certainly looked like Theo took a specific shot at him.

Now, Michigan State? We got jobbed.

Either way, it's a win.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

He buried the nose of the ball into the F**** ground....that my friends is intential grounding...

Not if it's within 3 yards of an eligible receiver.

 

[jason_h537]

That was a safety

 

[johnnykillz]

I concur. Intentional grounding no matter how you look at it.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

I just didn't see it that way. I don't think the intent of the back matters, does it? I agree that he was just trying to avoid the sack. But, that doesn't make it grounding.

Again, either way, it's a win.

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

Sorry Bambi...

I know we get screwed sometimes...but, that wasn't intentional grounding.

The pick? I don't know. Not familiar enough with the rules to be able to call that one. It certainly looked like Theo took a specific shot at him.

Now, Michigan State? We got jobbed.

Either way, it's a win.

WRONG

Eff the rules in this case. Had it been ND with the ball, the refs would have had their flags ready and dropped them immediately after the spike. At the MSU game, the refs would have had their collectiive whistle in their mouth with 3 seconds left on the time clock, and blown the whistle with .05 seconds left.

Sometimes fans compensating for bad officiating bothers me more than fans who get pissed at their own team.

 

[NDFANnSouthWest]

Definition: The quarterback, while he is still in the area between the tackles, purposely throwing the ball out of bounds or into the ground to avoid taking a sack.

 

[johnnykillz]

Definition: The quarterback, while he is still in the area between the tackles, purposely throwing the ball out of bounds or into the ground to avoid taking a sack.

+1

Boo-yah!

 

[NDFANnSouthWest]

IrishJayHawk....I hear ya....that is one of the more difficult calls in Football....still love you man...! (in a non romantic way of cource)

 

[IrishJayhawk]

IrishJayHawk....I hear ya....that is one of the more difficult calls in Football....still love you man...! (in a non romantic way of cource)

Gross, man.

I'm glad to be wrong. But, I think we're going by what we think his intent was. I'm certain that the intent was grounding.

Does anyone actually know the wording of the rule? Because there was an eligible receiver there.

I may be just misunderstanding the rule.

 

[johnnykillz]

Ask the Zebras. Those **** sticks.

 

[NDFANnSouthWest]

Below is the actual wording...the QB buried the ball in the ground NOSE down...so that is what I think is the difference....however...we got the W....yet one of the days (and it has already happened) these calls are going to cost us a W>!

Definition: The quarterback, while he is still in the area between the tackles, purposely throwing the ball out of bounds or into the ground to avoid taking a sack.

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

Gross, man.

I'm glad to be wrong. But, I think we're going by what we think his intent was. I'm certain that the intent was grounding.

Does anyone actually know the wording of the rule? Because there was an eligible receiver there.

I may be just misunderstanding the rule.

Your first mistake is assuming officials play by the rules.

Any neutral official IN THE COUNTRY would have thrown that flag.

(Just riding you buddy, you know I loves ya... But this butt poking by the refs needs to stop.)

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Okay...here's the actual wording in the NCAA rulebook.

Anytime during the game, quarterback A10, who is not outside the
tackle box and is attempting to save yardage, intentionally throws
a desperation forward pass that falls incomplete where no eligible
Team A player has a reasonable opportunity to catch it. RULING:
Intentional grounding. Penalty—Loss of down at the spot of the foul.
The clock starts on the snap (Rule 3-3-2-d-4).

The tricky wording is the "reasonable opportunity" line.

 

[johnnykillz]

Reasonable opportunity: Way of the Stache to have Zebras screw us in the goat ***.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Your first mistake is assuming officials play by the rules.

Any neutral official IN THE COUNTRY would have thrown that flag.

I'm a teacher. I tend to respect people in positions of authority. Maybe that's my bad.

I'm not offended at the discussion. This is a conversation, not a fight. We won the game and we all cheer for the same team.

 

[NDFANnSouthWest]

Anytime during the game, quarterback A10, who is not outside the
tackle box and is attempting to save yardage, intentionally throws
a desperation forward pass that falls incomplete where no eligible
Team A player has a reasonable opportunity to catch it. RULING:
Intentional grounding. Penalty—Loss of down at the spot of the foul.
The clock starts on the snap (Rule 3-3-2-d-4).


The RB...had his back toward the QB....

 

[johnnykillz]

I'm American. I tend to disrespect those in authoritative positions. See "Loose Change", "Zeitgeist", and others...

Obama plan anyone? Screw socialism and screw zebras!

 

[IrishJayhawk]

The RB...had his back toward the QB....

He did. No question.

 

[NDFANnSouthWest]

johhnykillz......dont get me started!

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Obama plan anyone? Screw socialism and screw zebras!

I don't talk politics on blogs. I prefer to focus on what brings us together as Irish fans.

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

I'm a teacher. I tend to respect people in positions of authority. Maybe that's my bad.

I'm not offended at the discussion. This is a conversation, not a fight. We won the game and we all cheer for the same team.

I actually was thinking that my good friend. But I have been around the game intimately on all sides, and watched psychotic amounts of film (before I gave it up) to be so naive.