Oct 22 | Southern Cal

[phgreek]

We----- on the same wave length.... no doubt.

I would say this program has 'shanked' every good op they have had to make a national statement since the FSU game Ty's first year( in fact that ALONE was the reason I have picked ND to lose every big game correctly for at least three years now).... and what did they do a week after the FSU game for that matter????..... this simply is not a big time program... I'm not cliff jumping, I'm not screaming at the cpu screen, I'm rather calm right now considering......... just calling it as I see it...

Amen!

 

[NDinFL]

Amen!

And while your(Greek) and ACamp's opinions are totally valid...

We layed an egg

that doesn't happen often, and it damn well shouldn't against "them"


However, you would be remissed if you were unable to see improvements

 

[NDinFL]

To elaborate:

It's damn near impossible to establish a ground attack when down by 14

We let them play "their game" (short screens, delays, misdirection)

We handed this game to them... And still, (if you watched it) it was such a bad-***, "do anything to win" performance AFTER Tommy f'd his knee up

I won't derail this, or any other thread, but when I saw #11 coming back into the game... I knew we had a chance

 

[ulukinatme]

To elaborate:

It's damn near impossible to establish a ground attack when down by 14

We let them play "their game" (short screens, delays, misdirection)

We handed this game to them... And still, (if you watched it) it was such a bad-***, "do anything to win" performance AFTER Tommy f'd his knee up

I won't derail this, or any other thread, but when I saw #11 coming back into the game... I knew we had a chance

Yeah, we really didn't do anything to disrupt their game plan.

I couldn't BELIEVE the difference in time of possession when I saw it just now. I know USC was eating up all kinds of clock, especially in the 3rd quarter. The difference is rather lopsided though:

USC 39:41

Notre Dame 20:19

We held the ball for 1 1/3 quarters.

 

[NDinFL]

Bingo was his name-o

they ran 11, 12, or 13 play drives that sucked the clock out

we never had a the time/nor chance to establish Cierre

 

[BGIF]

Bingo was his name-o

they ran 11, 12, or 13 play drives that sucked the clock out

we never had a the time/nor chance to establish Cierre

I don't recall Cierre with 5 yds on 5 carries give much of an inkling of establishing anything. He has one 7 yd gain but he also lost 9 yds.

Looking at the play by play summary
ND 1st drive
REES pass incomplete to FLOYD
WOOD, C. rush for 1 yard, 3 and out
REES pass incomplete to Jones, TJ, QB hurry
PUNT

USC drove for a TD 7-0

ND 2nd drive
REES pass complete to WOOD, C. for 8 yards
GRAY, J. rush for loss of 2 yards to the ND38
REES pass complete to WOOD, C. for 2 yards to the ND40
PUNT

USC then drove for another TD 14-0.

ND got one more run for 3 yds and then it was the 2nd Q down 2 TDs.

Here's the link for the rest of the Play by Play

http://www.und.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/2011-2012/usc.html

After SC's 8 minute drive we were down 3 scores with 3-1/2 minutes left in the half.

 

[NDinFL]

Fair,

but USC killed the clock with long(succesful) drives on us...

If they had maybe scored a bit quicker, then we could have potentially had a chance to run it more

EDIT: you listed the plays from ND's 3 n out's in the first quarter...

I wonder how that compares to USC's drives in the 1st quarter

 

[BGIF]

Fair,

but USC killed the clock with long(succesful) drives on us...

Which probably influenced Kelly to go away from the run that wasn't working.

...

EDIT: you listed the plays from ND's 3 n out's in the first quarter...

I wonder how that compares to USC's drives in the 1st quarter

Sorry, I don't know what you want to compare.

Here's the link for the Play by Play

http://www.und.com/sports/m-footbl/s...-2012/usc.html

 

[BGIF]

Just noticed somthing.

ND only ran 57 offensive plays.
43 pass
14 rush

1/4 of the plays were runs. Considering how quickly we got behind and how ineffective we were running I'm surprised it was that high.

The rushes averaged 2.9 yds/play.

The passes average 5.3 yds/attempt

TOP: ND 20.19 minutes; USC 39.41 an almost 2:1 advantage.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

From Bill Connelly's Week 8 Numerical:

21.9: Value, in equivalent points, of the three turnovers Notre Dame committed in their 31-17 loss to USC. Granted, USC earned this one -- they held an explosive, well-rounded Irish attack to just 267 total yards and outgained them by 176 yards -- but the fact remains: when Notre Dame loses fewer than three touchdowns' worth of turnovers in a game, they win.

 

[NDbrbkny]

can anyone find who was the referee for this game?

 

[irishtrain]

To elaborate:

It's damn near impossible to establish a ground attack when down by 14

We let them play "their game" (short screens, delays, misdirection)

We handed this game to them... And still, (if you watched it) it was such a bad-***, "do anything to win" performance AFTER Tommy f'd his knee up

I won't derail this, or any other thread, but when I saw #11 coming back into the game... I knew we had a chance

It is not damn near impossible to establish a run game when down 14 points. Lou did it all the time to get back in games. Problem is how do you coach to make your mark and in this game someone panicked. This game will haunt Notre Dame for awhile until they lay an @$$ whippin on southern cal. Problem is can they do it.

 

[BGIF]

can anyone find who was the referee for this game?

USC v ND 10/22/11

Referee: Land Clark • Umpire: Matt Jordan • Linesman: Bart Longson • Line judge: Rich Troyer • Back judge: John Freitas • Field judge: Mike Mothershed • Side judge: Bernie Hulscher •