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ThePiombino

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This USC game and ASU's last few games have got me thinking maybe we are a little better than we think.

It's all fun and games til we play a REAL powerhouse... like Pitt! LMAO, seriously tho- you might be onto something.
 

IrishSteelhead

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I don't take much stock in the ASU game. It was a big game for them, at a neutral site, and it is impossible to name a game this decade they won when a shred of credibility was on the line. They are the epitome of, as Bill Simmons calls it, a "good bad team." They beat up other bad-average teams, and s-hit the bed against decent and good ones.
 

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I don't take much stock in the ASU game. It was a big game for them, at a neutral site, and it is impossible to name a game this decade they won when a shred of credibility was on the line. They are the epitome of, as Bill Simmons calls it, a "good bad team." They beat up other bad-average teams, and s-hit the bed against decent and good ones.

Over the past decade they're 67-57 under 3 different coaches with 4 losing seasons and only 3 seasons with 8 wins or more. Todd Graham won 8 last year, in his first year, and has a good shot of winning 10 this year. A bowl win would give them 11 and matching their best season in 4 decades.

Their only loses this year are to Stanford by 14 and ND by 3.

A10 or 11 win season would make Graham the most successful ASU coach since Dan Devine. It's early in his reign at ASU to anoint him but he's got them going in the right direction and playing above the ASU historical .600 winning percentage.

There a formidable opponent this year and a good win for ND.
 
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Bogtrotter07

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Over the past decade they're 67-57 under 3 different coaches with 4 losing seasons and only 3 seasons with 8 wins or more. Todd Graham won 8 last year, in his first year, and has a good shot of winning 10 this year. A bowl win would give them 11 and matching their best season in 4 decades.

Their only loses this year are to Stanford by 14 and ND by 3.

A10 or 11 win season would make Graham the most successful ASU coach since Dan Devine. It's early in his reign at ASU to anoint him but he's got them going in the right direction and playing above the ASU historical .600 winning percentage.

There a formidable opponent this year and a good win for ND.

And of course the first ASU coach was the best; Fred IRISH!
 

gkIrish

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This USC game and ASU's last few games have got me thinking maybe we are a little better than we think.

I tend to agree. But on the flipside, OSU is destroying Purdue (as have most other teams) while we struggled.
 

NDhoosier

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Last year we struggled with Purdue, but beat Miami like 42-3... A team is allowed to have a bad game, it just so happens ND has played poorly against Purdue recently.
 

gkIrish

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Last year we struggled with Purdue, but beat Miami like 42-3... A team is allowed to have a bad game, it just so happens ND has played poorly against Purdue recently.

Ohio State lost the last 2 times they visited Purdue before today. A team is allowed to have a bad game but we've had 2.5 bad games already this year. So I don't know what to make of our team.
 
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Buster Bluth

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Not that it's surprising but Marqise Lee just declared for the NFL.
 
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