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Is Florida state's run defense any good? The game day crew seems to think ND won't be able to run at all tonight.
 
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Irishcop said:
Is Florida state's run defense any good? The game day crew seems to think ND won't be able to run at all tonight.
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I personally think when they want to play, they're excellent. Vs. OK St. and Clemson, their front 7 was super physical.

I think they've looked poor at time because winning every game and playing a lot of average opponents get old, so TIFWIW.
 
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SIAP, Mario Pender (RB) is out for this game.

Karlos Williams, the leading rusher with 74 carries for 4.8 YPC is back. 6'1", 225.
 
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I had a few conversations with others lately that inspired some "creative" thinking on my part.

Go back in time to when rumors were swirling that Bob Diaco might take a head coaching job. Brian, looking to simplify his job asks himself who he can call to take over, and move the program ahead in an even more sympathetic cooperative manner.

The same person keeps coming up BVG. But will he jump back to the college game? Well his youngster Montgomery, is going to enter college in the fall. And BVG has been filling a placeholder position with the Jets since his unfortunate experience with the Tigers . . .

BK puts together a package with the best pay of any assistant coach and lines things up for BVG to consider. In putting together his pitch BK has all his "i's" dotted and his "t's" crossed! And philosophically, BK has all his points rehearsed, and polished.

He gets VanG on the line as says, "Brian, how would you like to come here to South Bend and run the defensive side of the ball?"

BVG replies with a few questions of his own, and they chat for a while. Then they get down to serious business. That was the day Brian Kelly and Brian VanGorder outlined the plan, and agreed on its execution, the plan to beat Jameis Winston and FSU!

Think about it. Human nature. This staff. I bet it was one of the first conversations they ever had!
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The plan to beat FSU and Jameis Winston is simple: you shut down their inside running game by starting Joe Greene, Reggie White, Alan Page, and Deacon Jones on the Defensive Line. You contain their outside running game by starting James Harrison and Lawrence Taylor at Outside Linebacker. Then I use my MLB, Dick Butkus, to spy Jameis Winston. I take away their wideouts by playing man coverage with my CBs; Deion Sanders and Rod Woodson. That leaves my safeties, Ronnie Lott and Troy Polamalu, to just roam the field and maybe cover the TE.

The point being... I am sure that the first conversations all revolved around the talent AT Notre Dame, before any discussion of game planning for specific opponents started.
 
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kmoose said:
The plan to beat FSU and Jameis Winston is simple: you shut down their inside running game by starting Joe Greene, Reggie White, Alan Page, and Deacon Jones on the Defensive Line. You contain their outside running game by starting James Harrison and Lawrence Taylor at Outside Linebacker. Then I use my MLB, Dick Butkus, to spy Jameis Winston. I take away their wideouts by playing man coverage with my CBs; Deion Sanders and Rod Woodson. That leaves my safeties, Ronnie Lott and Troy Polamalu, to just roam the field and maybe cover the TE.

The point being... I am sure that the first conversations all revolved around the talent AT Notre Dame, before any discussion of game planning for specific opponents started.
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I can't believe you'd leave Warren Sap on the bench. SMDH.
 
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Irishcop said:
Is Florida state's run defense any good? The game day crew seems to think ND won't be able to run at all tonight.
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I'm not sure they've played against much of rushing opponents. OKS beat their season rushing avg +6. The FCS Citadel ran for 250 yds. CLEM was -40. NCS was -17. WF +9 but they only average 31 ypg. SYR was -34 but without their starting QB. Cuse played their #2 and #3 QB and were in the game.

FSU Opponents Rushing Ranking and Season Average Yds/Game.
HTML: 
OKS #79 155
Citadel FCS 
Clem #94 141
NCS #49 188
WF #128 31
SYR #46 190 
ND #68 164

HTML: 
Opp 	Result	Att	Yds	Avg	TD
OKS	W 37-31	42	161	3.83	3
Citadel	W 37-12	56	250	4.46	0
Clem	W 23-17	40	101	2.53	2
@ NCS	W 56-41	37	161	4.35	2
WF	W 43-3	39	40	1.03	0
@ SYR	W 38-20	31	156	5.03	0
Totals		245	869	3.55	7
 
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I can't believe you'd leave Warren Sap on the bench. SMDH.
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I know. But I also had to leave Richard Dent, Howie Long, John Randle, Bruce Smith, and Michael Strahan on the bench. They can't all start...
 
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I know CW's name is taboo around here, but one of my favorite memories of his early years was the 2005 game at Michigan when we opened no-huddle and went 5-wide every play with a scripted drive. Would love to see that to open the game.
 
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I know CW's name is taboo around here, but one of my favorite memories of his early years was the 2005 game at Michigan when we opened no-huddle and went 5-wide every play with a scripted drive. Would love to see that to open the game.
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I rather see what ND did to FSU in '02 in Doak Campbell when that schematic genius Ty Willingham had Holiday hit Battle out of the gate for a long TD turning the Warchant into a Whisper.

ND never trailed in the game.
 
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FLDomer and I are at the bar and met Golson's high school coaches. We also saw Kyle McCarthy
 
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I rather see what ND did to FSU in '02 in Doak Campbell when that schematic genius Ty Willingham had Holiday hit Battle out of the gate for a long TD turning the Warchant into a Whisper.

ND never trailed in the game.
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As long we get a repeat of the Battle TD celebration.
 
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FLDomer and I are at the bar and met Golson's high school coaches. We also saw Kyle McCarthy
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Yes sir! Shook McCarthy's hand and told him to keep up the fight! Very nice and cordial man. It's gonna be a special night! GO IRISH!
 
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Lou just said we will dominate the trenches.

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Lou just said we will dominate the trenches.

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That whole segment was the stupid television I've seen in awhile. Dominate the trenches!?!?!?! What!?!

And then Rece Davis... that ignorant cock sucker... saying that "ND never shows up in big games" when we went 3-1 in '12/'13 against team that were Power 5 CONFERENCE FUCKING CHAMPIONS and there isn't another team in all of CFB with that many wins over conference champs. And we have a winning record against ranked teams.

I'm just so sick of "narratives" that have no basis in fact. Those narratives are:
1. ND plays a soft schedule (an outright lie).
2. ND can't beat good teams (another outright lie).

No one in the media does anything to dispel these narratives... instead they just perpetuate them.
 
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I will disappointed if BVG does not have our defense flying out of the gate
 
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Might have some good luck today. I am supposed to go to a wedding tonight, but my wife is stuck at work on overtime and may not get off in time to make it. Not a really close friend, but someone she knows from high school. Anyway, might be a bit of good luck if I get to see the game.
 
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Might have some good luck today. I am supposed to go to a wedding tonight, but my wife is stuck at work on overtime and may not get off in time to make it. Not a really close friend, but someone she knows from high school. Anyway, might be a bit of good luck if I get to see the game.
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You are probably crushed that you might be missing the wedding!
 
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