Nov 9 | Pittsburgh

[Irish Insanity]

The defense sucked. But, I believe this loss lies mostly on Tommy and his lack of accuracy. Pic in the end zone. Intentional grounding. Horrible over throw. Missed receivers all night.

Coaching 2nd

And the depleted defense 3rd.

You sir, or ma'am, are right on with this post.

 

[palinurus]

Tommy had a few good plays, but more terrible ones; but the real problem was a very banged up, inexperienced defense that was married to the worst gameplan imaginable: one built on Rees's passing, which accelerated the clock to get the inexperienced, banged up defense back on the field quicker, and thus longer, than they could handle.

I blame the coaches for a poor gameplan: Rees is not as awful as it seems at this moment, but it is just wrong wrong wrong to count on him to win games with his passing. Bama does not build its offense around a much better QB, but somehow our coaches think we can live or die on Rees's arm. He is simply too erratic -- not awful, because sometimes he looks great -- but too erratic from play to play to place so much trust in him.

Four carries by Folston after last week's breakout is a scandalous failure.

Edit: none of the above changes that the officiating in that game was horrendous: from the targeting call, to the pass interference, to the missed holdings on Shembo, to the lousy mark at the end of the game. Worst officiated game I have seen in a long time. Taken with the above, the most frustrating loss since the Michigan loss a couple of years back.

 

[NDdomer2]

ill ask again because the pages are changing fast with everyone trying to cope with the loss.

i am going to be in san Diego for Christmas and was going to go to poinsettia bowl anyways. now that bcs looks out of reach is it possible for nd to play there

 

[CarrollVermin]

Stop deluding yourself. We're not playing down to their level. We are at their level. We are an average football team.

NO reason in YEAR FOUR to be an average football team. NONE! That was an embarrassment.

 

[NDFANnSouthWest]

See you guys in El Paso.

 

[greyhammer90]

Games like this make me contemplate quitting. I know all programs lose sometimes, but do any other programs have nights like this where seemingly every possible crazy things goes against you? It is a sickening feeling, and I don't know if I can keep convincing myself that these things all even out anymore. There is something about this program where these kinds of nights are so familiar.

Lol yeah other teams have these nights. Remember watching Oregon not execute anything for 3 quarters against Stanford? Or Michigan blow a game against PSU? Or LSU somehow continually f*ck up against Ole Miss?

It happens to everyone not named Alabama.

 

[OlympiaIrishFan]

Irish insanity if Tommy doesn't throw a pic in the end zone we win.

Irish insanity if Tommy doesn't get picked and they run it back to the 3 we win.

That is 14 points (or 10) 100% directly related to Tommy.

Sorry, you are wrong in my opinion. Tommy gave up at least 10 points--really inaccurate--intentional grounding all 100% on him.

Sorry, Tommy was most at fault today. And he is a freaking senior with tons of experience. And he continues to make the bad mistakes.

 

[North Buffalo Irish]

Yeah, blame the defense when Rees set Pitt up for the go-ahead score with a pick that would be embarrassing for a high school quarterback. It's also the defense's fault that our senior quarterback made a freshman mistake by throwing across his body into the end zone. Just awful.

I wouldn't dislike Rees so much if he actually managed the game with his limited talent. But he's just so prone to throwing killer interceptions and relying on his receivers to bail him out on poor throws.

Godspeed, Golson.

 

[Patulski]

When was the last time we lost to a team we should have blown out? 2010? Gain some perspective.

You want perspective? We are a Purdue/Navy/Pitt caliber program. Average. That is who we are. We are going to a dogsh$t bowl, because that is what we deserve.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

In a desperate attempt to find something encouraging, the pass blocking was unreal tonight. If Rees was remotely serviceable tonight, could have been a fun game to watch, not a 3 hour comedy of errors.

 

[Irish Insanity]

Irish insanity if Tommy doesn't throw a pic in the end zone we win.

Irish insanity if Tommy doesn't get picked and they run it back to the 3 we win.

That is 14 points (or 10) 100% directly related to Tommy.

Sorry, you are wrong in my opinion. Tommy gave up at least 10 points--really inaccurate--intentional grounding all 100% on him.

Sorry, Tommy was most at fault today. And he is a freaking senior with tons of experience. And he continues to make the bad mistakes.

Lol. I completely agreed with your post above. I don't deny any of what you posted in this quote. My problem is where everyone was specifically nailing it on Tommy, when you realistically pointed out that it was several parts of our game that weren't what they needed to be. As far as being wrong, I agreed with your post, I guess I'm not the only one wrong then.

 

[ulukinatme]

Who the heck gave Tommy Rees a scholarship to the University of Notre Dame ?

Maybe you should take a break. If you want to blame anyone, blame Golson's poor academic judgement. Tommy's the starter because other QBs made poor decisions, didn't want to compete and left, or they haven't been able to perform better. One guy is redshirted, so we don't know quite what he could do yet, but he's probably not ready yet or he'd be playing now. There were a lot of reasons we lost this game, don't take it out on the guy that's stuck with the program through a lot of crap and is doing his best.

 

[Patulski]

Irish insanity if Tommy doesn't throw a pic in the end zone we win.

Irish insanity if Tommy doesn't get picked and they run it back to the 3 we win.

That is 14 points (or 10) 100% directly related to Tommy.

Sorry, you are wrong in my opinion. Tommy gave up at least 10 points--really inaccurate--intentional grounding all 100% on him.

Sorry, Tommy was most at fault today. And he is a freaking senior with tons of experience. And he continues to make the bad mistakes.

Unfortunately, we have three more games until he's gone.

 

[Irish Insanity]

Unfortunately, we have three more games until he's gone.

I'll be here much longer than that.

 

[fightingirish26]

Guys..
I agree that Kelly has his head up his ***
I agree the refs sucked
I agree Rees sucked today

But quitting on the program? Firing Kelly? After a 12 win year and with the overall program on an upward trajectory (Imo). You guys are pussies, and that's coming from someone who's probably less than half all of your ages

Every team has bad games. Remember when we stole the game from Pitt last year? There is no way we should have won that game. But we did. We shouldn't have lost tonight. But we did. We also have no defensively depth right now. Cant blame the coaches for that. Cant blame them for golson cheating. Yes there is stuff i expect them to do better. Such as playing correct personnel and playcalling. But come on, we still have a bright figure as a program. Grow up

 

[Bluto]

Stop deluding yourself. We're not playing down to their level. We are at their level. We are an average football team.

Disagree, all those teams are below average. We should be spanking those dudes.

 

[OlympiaIrishFan]

I had a good time at the Sun Bowl when Tommy was a freshman. And it looks like that is the type of bowl we will be going to.

with BYU and Stanford to come--it looks like a 7-5 season IMO.

 

[returnofthemack]

When was the last time we lost to a team we should have blown out? 2010? Gain some perspective.

USF. But a better question is, how many times have we barely beaten a team we should have blown out and heard BK give his usual "It's hard to win games" speech?

 

[Irishman77]

Disagree, all those teams are below average. We should be spanking those dudes.

When you used the word should you exposed your delusion. This team is as soft as they come. 2 star athletes with a chip on their shoulder are knocking the snot out of this team and laughing at them.

No heart no emotion no grit...that is reality!

 

[ulukinatme]

Irish insanity if Tommy doesn't throw a pic in the end zone we win.

Irish insanity if Tommy doesn't get picked and they run it back to the 3 we win.

That is 14 points (or 10) 100% directly related to Tommy.

Sorry, you are wrong in my opinion. Tommy gave up at least 10 points--really inaccurate--intentional grounding all 100% on him.

Sorry, Tommy was most at fault today. And he is a freaking senior with tons of experience. And he continues to make the bad mistakes.

If Farley doesn't miss the tackle on Street, it's a tie game.

If Tommy wasn't getting hit as he threw the 2nd pick, maybe he gets the ball to Koyack.

The intentional grounding play couldn't be helped, everyone was covered, why else did he throw the ball away? If he forces the pass he probably gets another pick. He could have put the ball near a receiver probably, but he was trying to be safe with the football. It's not that big a deal. The targeting penalty on Tuitt and the PI on 4th down that both kept drives alive? Those were big.

 

[Patulski]

Maybe you should take a break. If you want to blame anyone, blame Golson's poor academic judgement. Tommy's the starter because other QBs made poor decisions, didn't want to compete and left, or they haven't been able to perform better. One guy is redshirted, so we don't know quite what he could do yet, but he's probably not ready yet or he'd be playing now. There were a lot of reasons we lost this game, don't take it out on the guy that's stuck with the program through a lot of crap and is doing his best.

Yeah, but that pick in the end zone, for a SR with so much experience, is one of the worst decisions I've ever seen by a QB with his experience, and that goes back to 1965. There is nothing that can change that. That is Rees's legacy. He will forever be regarded as mediocre. Kelly know this. Most of the fans know this. It is what it is.

 

[wallym]

Said it before will say it again, undersold on Kelly. Inexcusable effort tonight and got out manned by a vastly inferior team. This is an embarrassment for he program.

This ^^^^^. Undersold on Kelly...big time. I never post, but this will be last time ever. It's like its UC all over.

What a horribly coached team. Embarrassed beyond belief. So many chances to win. Kelly should have gone to NFL and lost 13 games. Tommy wasn't great, but our coaches may want to ****ing figure out how to run the ****ing football. Pitt did it...controlled the clock, and moved the ball.

Cowboy, gun slinging Kelly may want to figure this **** out. Nice extension on the heels of a national championship....what in the world do you do All week to coach? My boys team has better kickoff coverage...oh, and we don't give a 10 yard cushion on 2nd and goal. ****ing awful......Diaco and Kelly, it's on you mother F'rs.

Wow. I'm just stunned. Where was Folston? Cam? It's not there fault you want to do RB by committee....we all ****ing see who wants to run downhill and be physical.

Won't watch BYU or Stanford games. As a proud fan, I couldn't be more embarrassed.

 

[ulukinatme]

So...how many of you thought we were going to blow out Pitt? Raise your hand if you said this would be another close game [raises hand] Once again a one damn score game, just not in our favor.

 

[Patulski]

If Farley doesn't miss the tackle on Street, it's a tie game.

If Tommy wasn't getting hit as he threw the 2nd pick, maybe he gets the ball to Koyack.

The intentional grounding play couldn't be helped, everyone was covered, why else did he throw the ball away? If he forces the pass he probably gets another pick. He could have put the ball near a receiver probably, but he was trying to be safe with the football. It's not that big a deal. The targeting penalty on Tuitt and the PI on 4th down that both kept drives alive? Those were big.

Kelly just said it like it is in his Press Conference. The QB execution was awful. Judging from Kelly's disgust. I really think it is possible he may pull the plug on Rees.

 

[Crazy Balki]

Just a flat out sh*t performance. I have never hated a ND team as much as this one. They are just flat out sickening.

- I refuse to believe that Tommy Rees is and has always been our best option at QB since 2010. How can Hendrix suck bad enough to be worse than Rees?

- Was Farley on Mars tonight!? He was in wussy mode and couldn't tackle to save his life. It's like 2009 all over again.

- What's it gonna take for us to keep players from getting hurt. They're dropping like flies out there.

- Chuck Martin and Brian Kelly have got to be the WORST playcallers in college football. This RB by committee BS is over. You have Folston, fresh off a dominating performance, and you have him tote the rock 4 times....FOUR TI....I'm sorry, let me get my imaginary megaphone...*click*...FOUR TIMES!!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously, it's like the entire staff was on something in the second half.

- Who are those officials? Whoever they are, they won't be officials for long. As a fellow referee myself, I'm flat out embarrassed. They went out of their way to just straight up cheat. There's no if, ands or buts, it was blatantly obvious that they were paid. No ref can be THAT bad on accident. I hope they never work a game ever again. If I'm ND, I'm blackballing them for life.

 

[IrishLax]

All teams have crazy let down games. USC in their RAWR STOMP EVERYONE era lost to Stanford, who was a 41 point dog. Tebow-Florida lost to Ole Miss. There is a long list.

We were only a 4.5 point favorite over Pitt. We are not a "good" football team, and we're DEFINITELY not good if our entire DL is hurt. That's the entire calling card of the team.

But what sucks is that Pitt played HORRIBLE despite all the breaks they were given by refs/injuries. And we still managed to be in perfect position for a comfortable win... only to have Tommy mentally implode with two turnovers worth 14 points, Sheldon Day refuse to pick up a fumble for no apparent reason, TJ fumble in the red zone, completely abandon the run in the second half in favor of predictable deep routes when we had 130 yards on the ground in the first half, etc. etc. etc.

If just one guy pulls his head out of his behind that's a W. But this team is so content with playing tight games that no one played with any urgency until it was far too late. We get up for games against ASU, MSU, USC and play some really good football. And then against Purdue and Pitt and Navy the coaches have the team HORRIBLY prepared mentally, and on top of that the game plan is total garbage.

 

[CarrollVermin]

Kelly just said it like it is in his Press Conference. The QB execution was awful. Judging from Kelly's disgust. I really think it is possible he may pull the plug on Rees.

And play who? Gunner?

 

[OlympiaIrishFan]

Patulski, I can't wait till he is gone. Nice kid, but one that doesn't learn from his mistakes. Look at Michigan, OK, and today. Same mistakes he made when he was really young.

I wish we could have played Malik this year. I know that wasn't a real option. but, sure wished we could have. 7-5 is a bad year IMO. A bad year. We are ND that shouldn't be tolerated.

Losing to Pitt, looking weak agains Temple, struggling against Navy isn't acceptable.

And the trouble is just beginning. We are losing Tuitt/Nix/Shembo next year. And MLB is still an issue. So, there is a lot of issue we have. And it is going to be a long rest of the season and off season.

 

[ulukinatme]

This ^^^^^. Undersold on Kelly...big time. I never post, but this will be last time ever. It's like its UC all over.

What a horribly coached team. Embarrassed beyond belief. So many chances to win. Kelly should have gone to NFL and lost 13 games. Tommy wasn't great, but our coaches may want to ****ing figure out how to run the ****ing football. Pitt did it...controlled the clock, and moved the ball.

Cowboy, gun slinging Kelly may want to figure this **** out. Nice extension on the heels of a national championship....what in the world do you do All week to coach? My boys team has better kickoff coverage...oh, and we don't give a 10 yard cushion on 2nd and goal. ****ing awful......Diaco and Kelly, it's on you mother F'rs.

Wow. I'm just stunned. Where was Folston? Cam? It's not there fault you want to do RB by committee....we all ****ing see who wants to run downhill and be physical.

Won't watch BYU or Stanford games. As a proud fan, I couldn't be more embarrassed.

Thats fine if you don't want to support the team, they don't need you.

 

[West Coast Domer]

Brian kelly's two offensive coordinators charley molnar and chuck martin...