Notre Dame to the B1G Conference?

[Dale]

 

[irishff1014]

If Jack gets that deal how big are his balls on his statue? lol

 

[Irishdrunk]

What are they getting now? $35MM a year? Or less?

 

[Irishdrunk]

If Jack gets that deal how big are his balls on his statue? lol

I loved when Jack gave scUM the series release - served in hand - just before kickoff of the game. That was some pimpy daddy move. Loved it.

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

What are they getting now? $35MM a year? Or less?

20-23 million.

 

[Irishdrunk]

I think it makes sense to see what the value for staying independent first. But I really wish they schedule more SEC games and less Big 10 or even ACC games. I like playing teams in Florida, Texas and the South. That is where the recruits are.

 

[Dale]

I like playing teams in Florida, Texas and the South. That is where the recruits are.

We’ve landed Greathouse, James, Bell & Bowen in this cycle. We haven’t played in Texas in the regular season since 2016.

 

[Dale]

Awful take (about the usual) by Horka. If it was about the money ND could call the B1G and get more than this in 60 seconds. ND getting close to what they are worth in a new deal but still taking a discount is in line with their historic negotiation. We’ll take X % discount on our TV deal vs B1G/SEC to remain independent. Of course we’re not taking $20 million again.

 

[pumpdog20]

That's Horka for you.

 

[House16]

We’ve landed Greathouse, James, Bell & Bowen in this cycle. We haven’t played in Texas in the regular season since 2016.

That's a big abberation though. We historically do way better in Florida, Georgia, and North Carolina, since we play so many more games there. Definitely not saying we should join the Big 12, but sprinkling in a couple H+H's with TCU and Houston would not hurt one bit.

 

[Dale]

We historically do way better in Florida, Georgia, and North Carolina, since we play so many more games there.

I don’t think we historically do that well in Florida relative to the talent production and Georgia was a recent very deliberate recruiting tactic. Yes North Carolina as probably gotten a ACC bump it’d guess.

Texas we have historically done much better than recent years BK just got scared of going into Texas over the years (even though guys like Bell and James there was no need to be). Any away game certainly “can’t hurt” but I don’t think ND needs to get their name out there in Texas like let’s say Missouri needs to. It’s not as needed, NDs brand supersedes going 5, 10 years without playing in a place.

 

[WilliamWallace]

SMH, I’d rather see them remain independent than join the Big 12. That’s a terrible option in my opinion.

 

[BilboBaggins]

I'm not really sure what the point is at this point. So they'll have to add 1-2 Big 12 games to make this work for NBC?

What is the point of being independent if you have to play 5 ACC games plus now 1-2 Big 12 games?

 

[KizerWilhelm]

SMH, I’d rather see them remain independent than join the Big 12. That’s a terrible option in my opinion.

They wouldn’t want to join the Big 12. The Big 12 and ND would just sell their inventory together to get a better price than they would separately.

Right now the big 12‘s biggest problem is they’re losing their big name brands and Notre Dame‘s problem is they don’t have enough games to sell to justify a pay bump. So working jointly could make sense.

 

[Dale]

I'm not really sure what the point is at this point. So they'll have to add 1-2 Big 12 games to make this work for NBC?

What is the point of being independent if you have to play 5 ACC games plus now 1-2 Big 12 games?

They wouldn’t want to join the Big 12. The Big 12 and ND would just sell their inventory together to get a better price than they would separately.

Right now the big 12‘s biggest problem is they’re losing their big name brands and Notre Dame‘s problem is they don’t have enough games to sell to justify a pay bump. So working jointly could make sense.

It’d agree a schedule of guaranteed ACC (assuming they exist) + a handful of Big 12 would be ass. The article implies though NBC would want the Big 12 for their full programming schedule not necessarily to play ND.

“it is seeking "shoulder programming" (in this case, games played before and/or after Notre Dame's contests) from a Power Five conference to enhance its college football coverage.”

I think this means NBC doesn’t see benefit in paying ND $15 million dollars every other Saturday unless they can piggy back a game right before, pre game show, a whole day of programming not just 3 hours. Basically ND makes a Cincinnati - BYU game viable when you leave the channel on the bar.

 

[WilliamWallace]

They wouldn’t want to join the Big 12. The Big 12 and ND would just sell their inventory together to get a better price than they would separately.

Right now the big 12‘s biggest problem is they’re losing their big name brands and Notre Dame‘s problem is they don’t have enough games to sell to justify a pay bump. So working jointly could make sense.

I feel like the Big 12 is a dying conference and any affiliation regardless of money is a bad idea.

How many times can ND cry wolf before the powers that be say, you know what, piss off. I hope we aren’t outside looking in when it’s all said and done.

 

[stlnd01]

It’d agree a schedule of guaranteed ACC (assuming they exist) + a handful of Big 12 would be ass. The article implies though NBC would want the Big 12 for their full programming schedule not necessarily to play ND.

“it is seeking "shoulder programming" (in this case, games played before and/or after Notre Dame's contests) from a Power Five conference to enhance its college football coverage.”

I think this means NBC doesn’t see benefit in paying ND $15 million dollars every other Saturday unless they can piggy back a game right before, pre game show, a whole day of programming not just 3 hours. Basically ND makes a Cincinnati - BYU game viable when you leave the channel on the bar.

Maybe not at first but over time there'd be pressure for "synergies." i.e. adding K-State and the second-tier Texas schools to the annual rotation. That does nothing for us.

I agree Notre Dame can't command $75M for its seven home games, maybe two of which in any given year are of national interest. That doesn't really make sense for NBC. Maybe if the proposed Big 12/Pac-12 tie-up happens there's enough good teams to make it interesting for us.

Or we could take Stanford, Oregon and Washington with us and go join the Big 10. I find myself increasingly leaning in that direction.

 

[Henges24]

Do not get involved with the Big 12. Just go B1G and get it over with.

 

[ShamrockOnHelmet]

And now this…

Big 12, Pac-12 nix talks of potential merger or partnership with Big 12 still considering all options

The two leagues recently raided by the SEC and Big Ten, respectively, had been discussing numerous possibilities

www.cbssports.com

I think the Big 12 games on NBC thing has some legs. At first glance, I was kinda meh on the idea, but ND positioning itself to be the pied piper of non-power 2 leagues (1/2 in the ACC, TV partners with the Big 12) could be an interesting development.

maybe they can get PAC X games on Peacock or something… lol

 

[Irish#1]

Do not get involved with the Big 12. Just go B1G and get it over with.

ND is the B1G's focus right now per Dan Patrick's sources. If ND remains independent, then the B1G will go after UNC, Duke, NC St and Central Fl.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

ND is the B1G's focus right now per Dan Patrick's sources. If ND remains independent, then the B1G will go after UNC, Duke, NC St and Central Fl.

That essentially means the BIG captures the largest market in the ACC and adds the largest uncaptured market in Fla (like I said a few weeks ago) if true so what does a ND (ACC) tv contract without North Carolina do?

 

[Dale]

ND is the B1G's focus right now per Dan Patrick's sources. If ND remains independent, then the B1G will go after UNC, Duke, NC St and Central Fl.

One of these is not like the other

 

[Reaper97]

ND is the B1G's focus right now per Dan Patrick's sources. If ND remains independent, then the B1G will go after UNC, Duke, NC St and Central Fl.

Have to take Dan Patrick’s sources with a grain of salt.
I’ve listened to that show for a decade & his sources are below .500 with predictions.
But whenever they are right he will make sure to let you know about it.

 

[NDdomer2]

Have to take Dan Patrick’s sources with a grain of salt.
I’ve listened to that show for a decade & his sources are below .500 with predictions.
But whenever they are right he will make sure to let you know about it.

isnt this every tv/radio personality

 

[ShamrockOnHelmet]

ND is the B1G's focus right now per Dan Patrick's sources. If ND remains independent, then the B1G will go after UNC, Duke, NC St and Central Fl.

Yeah, I seriously doubt any of those are on B1Gs radar. Maybe NC as a mop up…

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

That essentially means the BIG captures the largest market in the ACC and adds the largest uncaptured market in Fla (like I said a few weeks ago) if true so what does a ND (ACC) tv contract without North Carolina do?

One of these is not like the other

It is relative to untapped tv markets and the BIG's ability to capture something they dont already have. CFU is also a pretty big research school IIRC. Second largest University in the nation w/ 63000 students.

 

[Dale]

It is relative to untapped tv markets and the BIG's ability to capture something they dont already have. CFU is also a pretty big research school IIRC. Second largest University in the nation w/ 63000 students.

I wouldn’t think UCF really delivers the Florida market. If you’re already breaking up the ACC, to think they’d go after UCF instead of the better football school, better academic school in Miami seems unlikely, though neither are AAU institutions.

 

[BabyIrish]

Yeah, I seriously doubt any of those are on B1Gs radar. Maybe NC as a mop up…

Why would Duke be a mop up? They’d be getting the ND of college basketball

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

I wouldn’t think UCF really delivers the Florida market. If you’re already breaking up the ACC, to think they’d go after UCF instead of the better football school, better academic school in Miami seems unlikely, though neither are AAU institutions.

Clearly if the rumor is true they are looking at UCF lol.... so :0

 

[NDohio]

I wouldn’t think UCF really delivers the Florida market. If you’re already breaking up the ACC, to think they’d go after UCF instead of the better football school, better academic school in Miami seems unlikely, though neither are AAU institutions.

It kinda fits the Big Ten pattern though. The Big Ten didn't want Rutgers for their athletics, they wanted the NYC TV market and an academic school. UCF fits the same way.