ND was their Dream School =

[BobbyMac]

So I'm reading a story about Jim McMahon and Keith Van Horne tells how he wanted be a good beer drinking, tobacco dippin Catholic at ND but Dan Devine didn't want him. Devine instead took Tim Koegel in the class of 1977. We were that close to having the guy who would set 71 NCAA records... which is a record. I'm sure Rusty Lisch and Blair Kiel are happy he went to Provo.

I never knew this. McMahon was a force of nature at BYU and the kind of guy that might have been the few extra points that would have made the 1980 team the National Champs... a year he threw for @ 4600 yds and accounted for 53 TD's.

There's a million stories out there like McMahon.

Who are the guys who surprised you?

.

 

[notredomer23]

So I'm reading a story about Jim McMahon and Keith Van Horne tells how he wanted be a good beer drinking, tobacco dippin Catholic at ND but Dan Devine didn't want him. Devine instead took Tim Koegel in the class of 1977. We were that close to having the guy who would set 71 NCAA records... which is a record. I'm sure Rusty Lisch and Blair Kiel are happy he went to Provo.

I never knew this. McMahon was a force of nature at BYU and the kind of guy that might have been the few extra points that would have made the 1980 team the National Champs... a year he threw for @ 4600 yds and accounted for 53 TD's.

There's a million stories out there like McMahon.

Who are the guys who surprised you?

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It sucked losing Anthony Barr out of players in recent memory, idk if I would call ND his dream school though.

Deontay Greenbury

Pretty sure I recall Luke Keuchly calling ND his dream school but we never offered.

 

[Wild Bill]

Randy Moss?

 

[BobbyMac]

Randy Moss?

Would've been dopeAF to have him catching TD's from Allen Iverson.

The street cred lost by not having those two on campus can never be regained.

 

[ACamp1900]

Carson Palmer grew up a ND guy didn't he??

 

[GoldenToTheGrave]

Pretty sure I recall Luke Keuchly calling ND his dream school but we never offered.

Would Keuchly and Teo have gone down as the greatest college ILB tandem ever?

 

[Me2SouthBend]

So I'm reading a story about Jim McMahon and Keith Van Horne tells how he wanted be a good beer drinking, tobacco dippin Catholic at ND but Dan Devine didn't want him. Devine instead took Tim Koegel in the class of 1977. We were that close to having the guy who would set 71 NCAA records... which is a record. I'm sure Rusty Lisch and Blair Kiel are happy he went to Provo.

I never knew this. McMahon was a force of nature at BYU and the kind of guy that might have been the few extra points that would have made the 1980 team the National Champs... a year he threw for @ 4600 yds and accounted for 53 TD's.

There's a million stories out there like McMahon.

Who are the guys who surprised you?

.

But if Blair Kiel didn't come to ND, the Irish wouldn't have landed Gunner.

Too Soon?

 

[Emcee77]

It sucked losing Anthony Barr out of players in recent memory, idk if I would call ND his dream school though.

Deontay Greenbury

Pretty sure I recall Luke Keuchly calling ND his dream school but we never offered.

Ugh, that's the one I really hated. All these years later I forget the details though. Was it that he wanted to go to UCLA because he wanted to play RB rather than LB, and then ended up at LB anyway? All I remember is that I was not just mad that he went to UCLA as a jilted ND fan but I genuinely felt that ND made more sense for him.

 

[BobbyMac]

Another one that surprised me was Doug Flutie. While it doesn't surprise me that a Catholic kid from Boston would want to play for the Irish in 1981, it did surprise me that I had never heard it until he mentioned it during a broadcast earlier this season.

Montana, McMahon, Flutie... back to back to back.

 

[Irish YJ]

Urban Liar

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

We locked down Charlie Weis though.

 

[NDRock]

Think Dick Butkis wanted to play at ND but he was married, or something like that.

 

[SonofOahu]

Would've been dopeAF to have him catching TD's from Allen Iverson.

The street cred lost by not having those two on campus can never be regained.

This. But Iverson was more of a running QB, right?

 

[SonofOahu]

Would Keuchly and Teo have gone down as the greatest college ILB tandem ever?

If Keuchly came to ND, he probably would have stayed at OLB/Safety. Maybe he never becomes the player he is, today.

 

[vuirish]

This is a great, albeit slightly depressing thread.

 

[BobbyMac]

This. But Iverson was more of a running QB, right?

Yeah... sounds like his legend was greater than the product. He won the state championsip as the QB but had 14 TD's vs 13 Int's and just 2300 yds total offense including 7 TD's on the ground.

 

[BobbyMac]

This is a great, albeit slightly depressing thread.

Oh stick around, it's fittin' to get a lot worse.

Butkus at ND... that would have cut my football jersey expenditures in half.

It also would have guaranteed ND wins the 1964 National Championship. Butkus would have beaten up the entire SC team in the parking lot and they would've been forced to forfeit.

 

[notredomer23]

Ugh, that's the one I really hated. All these years later I forget the details though. Was it that he wanted to go to UCLA because he wanted to play RB rather than LB, and then ended up at LB anyway? All I remember is that I was not just mad that he went to UCLA as a jilted ND fan but I genuinely felt that ND made more sense for him.

I believe it was due Charlie Weis being fired/Brian Kelly being hired. Not to say he would have signed with ND had Charlie remained the coach, but I think that was a factor, as well as like you say, he wanted to play RB (LOL)

 

[Irishize]

Think Dick Butkis wanted to play at ND but he was married, or something like that.

Yes, you are correct. ND restricted married football players & Butkus was about to get engaged. He also liked the team that Illini HC, Pete Elliott was putting together.

 

[Irishize]

Jarrett Payton & Carson Palmer both wanted ND but they lacked a requisite calculus course.

 

[dad4aa]

Carson Palmer grew up a ND guy didn't he??

Yes. His dad was a corporate VP for one of the companies I worked for and I remember talking to him about Carson wanting to come to Notre Dame.

 

[STLDomer]

It sucked losing Anthony Barr out of players in recent memory, idk if I would call ND his dream school though.

Deontay Greenbury

Pretty sure I recall Luke Keuchly calling ND his dream school but we never offered.

His coach at St. Xavier has said so. Not sure he has.

ND went to the St. Ignatius - St. Xavier game when Keuchly was there. Came away with Dan Fox (Ignatius). Sure could have used both.

Agree with previous poster that Keuchly would have stayed OLB or possibly even safety if he came to ND.

 

[BobbyMac]

Anthony Alfano. Another kid who openly stated in early recruiting interviews that ND was his dream school. 247's #13 recruit for '19, a future 5 star.

But if ND could ever afford to miss out on a 5 star D lineman it's 2019.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I will be releasing my Top 12 School List on Saturday, November 25th @ Noon... <a href="https://t.co/CTJp0xyrp3">pic.twitter.com/CTJp0xyrp3</a></p>— Antonio Alfano (@Antonioalfano99) <a href="https://twitter.com/Antonioalfano99/status/932977660661305345?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 21, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[ACamp1900]

ND can never afford to miss out on signing a 5 star front seven anything... the thought makes me want to kick a puppy.

 

[NDMIA]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Also: Notre Dame has not yet offered, but my <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/sources?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#sources</a> in the <a href="https://twitter.com/DMRegister?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DMRegister</a> archives say a 10-year-old John Waggoner would be interested. <a href="https://t.co/HnrvkHhZYD">pic.twitter.com/HnrvkHhZYD</a></p>— Chris Cuellar (@cuellarchris) <a href="https://twitter.com/cuellarchris/status/847228531167723521?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 29, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Too bad that ND doesn't think a consensus 4 star recruit at WDE (a position of need!), who's childhood dream school is ND, is good enough to warrant a spot in this class. Has offers from academically ranked schools (Michigan, Florida, UCLA) and CFP Ranked schools (Oklahoma, Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan St, LSU). Sad!