ND Trustee to resign, for being pro-choice

[k1ssme1m1r1sh]

Notre Dame trustee resigns - wsbt.com

 

[Rhode Irish]

I'm an ND football fan, not an alum. As such, I'll keep my opinion on this to myself.

 

[ACamp1900]

interesting read

 

[k1ssme1m1r1sh]

I just thought it was interesting is all.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

This thread needs more incendiary opining immediately.

 

[k1ssme1m1r1sh]

Personally, I feel no one, NO ONE, has the right to tell a woman what she can or can't do with her own body. But ND is a catholic university, and I respect their beliefs. I do wonder though, if catholics believe life begins at conception, and don't believe in birth control, why do they not have 19 kids a piece? A little hypocritical in my opinion.

 

[ACamp1900]

sigh...


and with that, here's fat bastard.

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[NDFan4Life]

Personally, I feel no one, NO ONE, has the right to tell a woman what she can or can't do with her own body. But ND is a catholic university, and I respect their beliefs. I do wonder though, if catholics believe life begins at conception, and don't believe in birth control, why do they not have 19 kids a piece? A little hypocritical in my opinion.

Rhythm Method.

Birth Control - Rhythm Method

Edited to add: I HATE THE OFF-SEASON!!!

 

[Cali_domer]

Personally, I feel no one, NO ONE, has the right to tell a woman what she can or can't do with her own body. But ND is a catholic university, and I respect their beliefs. I do wonder though, if catholics believe life begins at conception, and don't believe in birth control, why do they not have 19 kids a piece? A little hypocritical in my opinion.

Well that should get the ball rolling.

 

[k1ssme1m1r1sh]

Well that should get the ball rolling.

Someone asked for it...

and as far as the "rythm method" goes, I call BS. It may work for some people, but not all catholics. I do not know ANY catholic families who have more than 4 children. I am not saying they don't exist, I'm saying I don't know any. I just find it a little strange is all.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Personally, I feel no one, NO ONE, has the right to tell a woman what she can or can't do with her own body. But ND is a catholic university, and I respect their beliefs. I do wonder though, if catholics believe life begins at conception, and don't believe in birth control, why do they not have 19 kids a piece? A little hypocritical in my opinion.

No one told Roxanne Martino what to do with her body. She held an elected office at America's flagship Catholic university. Evidence came to light that she publicly supports a cause which is inimical to Catholic doctrine. This created a scandal, and she resigned as a result.

Lots of Catholics do use birth control; living up to one's Catholic beliefs isn't easy in our culture. I'd only call it hypocrisy if they publicly denounce birth control and use it privately.

Catholics who adhere to church teaching on the subject practice natural family planning.

Edit: Rhythm is BS. The church doesn't recommend it anymore. I've been married for four years and used NFP the entire time. It works. There are plenty of peer-reviewed studies that have proven it.

 

[Cali_domer]

Someone asked for it...

and as far as the "rythm method" goes, I call BS. It may work for some people, but not all catholics. I do not know ANY catholic families who have more than 4 children. I am not saying they don't exist, I'm saying I don't know any. I just find it a little strange is all.

Lol I know. I agree with you but I just see where this will end up going.

 

[johnnykillz]

WTF.

Why would anyone respond to this bullsh!t with a sensable answer?

Pick a fight with whoever you want, k!issme!mabi+ch, but know you will find the hornet you are looking for.

Anyone whos "prochoice" is an accomplice to murder.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

Did it ever really say she was pro choice? My understanding was that she gave money to a group that may sometimes back pro choice political candidates.

 

[BeauBenken]

No one told Roxanne Martino what to do with her body. She held an elected office at America's flagship Catholic university. Evidence came to light that she publicly supports a cause which is inimical to Catholic doctrine. This created a scandal, and she resigned as a result.

Lots of Catholics do use birth control; living up to one's Catholic beliefs isn't easy in our culture. I'd only call it hypocrisy if they publicly denounce birth control and use it privately.

Catholics who adhere to church teaching on the subject practice natural family planning.

Edit: Rhythm is BS. The church doesn't recommend it anymore. I've been married for four years and used NFP the entire time. It works. There are plenty of peer-reviewed studies that have proven it.

Correct. It's not so much hypocrisy just new-age belief sort of. Catholics are notorious for being very proud of their religion, but not a giant ignorant mass of followers. There are plenty of Catholics who don't use contraceptives, but there are plenty who do.

The Church would probably lose half or more than half of it's American followers if it excommunicated all the parishioners who didn't strictly follow all the rules of Catholicism.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Did it ever really say she was pro choice? My understanding was that she gave money to a group that may sometimes back pro choice political candidates.

She donated to Emily's List, a PAC with the sole mission of electing pro-choice females to office.

 

[IrishLax]

I'm pro-aborting threads like this before they get posted....

I have no other opinions to share. I vote for locking it down before this turns into MSU Gameday Thread 2011... but I'm just an Indian, not a Chief in these parts.

 

[k1ssme1m1r1sh]

No one told Roxanne Martino what to do with her body. She held an elected office at America's flagship Catholic university. Evidence came to light that she publicly supports a cause which is inimical to Catholic doctrine. This created a scandal, and she resigned as a result.

Lots of Catholics do use birth control; living up to one's Catholic beliefs isn't easy in our culture. I'd only call it hypocrisy if they publicly denounce birth control and use it privately.

Catholics who adhere to church teaching on the subject practice natural family planning.

Edit: Rhythm is BS. The church doesn't recommend it anymore. I've been married for four years and used NFP the entire time. It works. There are plenty of peer-reviewed studies that have proven it.

Agreed, and I wasn't implying they did. Like I said above I respect the Catholic beliefs I do not have to agree with them.

Johnny...I wasn't looking for a hornet. I posted this because it was interesting. That's all. No need for name calling. Sheesh.

 

[Cali_domer]

WTF.

Why would anyone respond to this bullsh!t with a sensable answer?

Pick a fight with whoever you want, k!issme!mabi+ch, but know you will find the hornet you are looking for.

Anyone whos "prochoice" is an accomplice to murder.

Yikes, ok I will exit this thread because this not where I go to talk politics. I have my views and you have yours and that is cool.

 

[johnnykillz]

Last point before the fit hits the shan:

A baby has it's OWN soul, separate from momma's.

Mommy is no more than a vehicle for delivering God's creation.

Don't forget that.

The lord giveth, and the lord taketh away.

 

[mgriff]

MSU Gameday Thread 2010...

Good times man...

 

[johnnykillz]

Yikes, ok I will exit this thread because this not where I go to talk politics. I have my views and you have yours and that is cool.

Politics?

WTF. You ().

I mean really.

I'm a republicrat voting for Ron Paul.

Now get your lukewarm A$$ out of here.

 

[NDFan4Life]

Someone asked for it...

and as far as the "rythm method" goes, I call BS. It may work for some people, but not all catholics. I do not know ANY catholic families who have more than 4 children. I am not saying they don't exist, I'm saying I don't know any. I just find it a little strange is all.

My parents used it (no jokes, please), and quite a few of my friend's parents used it. When I was growing up, there were numerous people that used it. It may not be "fashionable" now, but that doesn't mean it's not being used. You have to be very disciplined to use that method of BC.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

I'm pro-aborting threads like this before they get posted....

It's been (mostly) civil thus far. What else are we supposed to discuss in June?

Edit: I spoke too soon.

Agreed, and I wasn't implying they did. Like I said above I respect the Catholic beliefs I do not have to agree with them.

Apologies for mischaracterizing your argument. I read the referred to comment as the reason you were upset with Martino's resignation.

 

[k1ssme1m1r1sh]

Anyway, it's just comical that threads regarding the anthem can be posted, discussed semi-rationally, and I post this one because it was interesting and regarding ND, and I have to be called a b****.

 

[k1ssme1m1r1sh]

My parents used it (no jokes, please), and quite a few of my friend's parents used it. When I was growing up, there were numerous people that used it. It may not be "fashionable" now, but that doesn't mean it's not being used. You have to be very disciplined to use that method of BC.

You also have to be very in tune with your body and know your cycle. I think that's why it failed for me. HA! My rythm baby is 3 now.

 

[Jason Pham]

Someone teach me how to 'respect' beliefs I, in the same breath, call hypocritical.

This was a tasteless thread (ignorance of its tastelessness, feigned or claimed is still ignorance) intended to head in a tasteless direction and it's therefore closed.

 

[Irish Houstonian]

Personally, I feel no one, NO ONE, has the right to tell a woman what she can or can't do with her own body. But ND is a catholic university, and I respect their beliefs. I do wonder though, if catholics believe life begins at conception, and don't believe in birth control, why do they not have 19 kids a piece? A little hypocritical in my opinion.

If you're saying that it's impossible to refuse birth control without having 19 kids, well that's just absurdly mistaken biology.

If you're saying something else, then I don't think "hypocritical" means what you think it means.