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ND Coaching Changes 2016
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stlnd01
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Re: Gilmore.
You'd think Elko will want to bring in at least one of his own guys. And if that's the case Gilmore - more so than Elston or Lyght - feels like the odd man out. He seems like a solid citizen but our defensive line hasn't really been a highlight the last couple of years. And while you certainly don't want to lose Ewell, I'm not sure you make an assistant coaching decision over the risk of potentially losing a recruit.
You'd think Elko will want to bring in at least one of his own guys. And if that's the case Gilmore - more so than Elston or Lyght - feels like the odd man out. He seems like a solid citizen but our defensive line hasn't really been a highlight the last couple of years. And while you certainly don't want to lose Ewell, I'm not sure you make an assistant coaching decision over the risk of potentially losing a recruit.
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I feel like Gilmore is probably gone but BK and JS are pissed that it got leaked before they could talk to recruits about it. So they back tracked and said he's not gone (yet). They'll allow Elko to make the move.
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^^^^^^^This.
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IMO this is more a reflection on S&C as opposed to OL coaching.
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Has to be his decision. It's evident to me JS put BK on the hot seat. BK is smart enough to know that staying the course isn't going to make 2017 a magical season and things need to change. New coaches wake up the rest of the coaching staff and the players. Now everyone is on high alert. The little details won't be ignored. Players will make sure they are participating in all FB related activities and then some. Everyone starts going that extra mile.
Gilmore is probably gone but I don't think it's a leak, I think it's assumptions by deductive reasoning that Elko has been given the reigns to build his own coaching staff as long as he keeps Elston and Lyght.
So if those 2 are staying as most suggest is the case there isn't many moves to create your own staff and because of that alone could be the reason Gilmore doesn't return.
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Yes but let me ask you this....if your OL is too pathetically weak to physically handle guys 50 lbs less then them, why would you zone block that requires more control of your opponent than just firing off and letting your weight assist the moving of the DLineman?
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I think it was assumed that Elko would bring his DL coach from Wake (Cohen) with him, but that Cohen will probably be promoted to DC at Wake and isnt coming to ND. I also think Elston was moved off the D line, so it just doesnt make sense to move him back there, especially since he seems to be doing well with the LB's.
The other question I have is what does Jeff Quinn really bring to the table as TE coach? Everyone is saying that BK misses his coordination help on offense, but at the same time, its not like he is going to be calling plays. Couldn't he continue to help with game planning as an analyst and allow for top notch recruiter to join the staff and coach TE's?
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I think if you look at Duke, Navy or Army's lines there isn't a 50lb difference. It's also been stated that our O-line has dropped weight as the season progressed. Regardless, they may be running zone blocking because that's what BK wants. He gets final say on everything.
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ND making it officially official.
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Meh, won't embed, but it's the announcing of Elko.
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Meh, won't embed, but it's the announcing of Elko.
https://www.facebook.com/NDFootball...703994459155/1467544143275127/?type=3&theater
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Yeah, I went back and looked at the play by play in the game stats, and it wasn't as bad as I thought I remembered it. Mea Culpa!
Facebook? "All the fake news we can print"
Here's the ND Press Release
Mike Elko Named Notre Dame Defensive Coordinator :: Notre Dame Football :: UND.COM :: The Official Site of Notre Dame Athletics
Dec. 20, 2016
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Interesting reading the comments on the ND facebook Elko release.
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i'd rather cut myself with a rusty blade than read ND fan comments on facebook lol
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I spend a lot of time with with real life NDNation people, so it can't be THAT bad. I wonder what they're saying?
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I can't stress how good Elko is and should be for ND.
I saw him up close and personal while he was at BG. You have to remember, he piled up those fantastic stats, against some really potent offenses, in a league with parity.
Look at what the offenses he played against and shut down did against non conference opponents in those days! I am talking Big 10, Big 12, SEC, etc., not D2!
For example, the University of Toledo, which has had major offensive production for the last ten or twelve years, was stomped by BG defensively during those years. BG hasn't defeated UT since Elko left if memory serves. And the year OSU pulled it out of their asses to come back against the Rockets, I also believe Elko did as well defensively as the Buckeyes, against the Rockets.
And in those days, Mike just didn't have the depth of defensive talent at BGSU as a lot of MAC teams had; (WMU, NI, BSU, UT, etc.)
As far as Gilmore, does someone have information that I don't? Because I think that the defensive line play has really improved technically since his arrival. And I think the players love him and will play for him. That may be the only drawback I've seen, he may be a bit too familiar.
But when people talked about him being let go with BVG, and Paul Longo, I have to question that. One thing that I can't believe is a secret any longer anywhere, is how BVG and Keith Gilmore went at it furiously, to the point of blows from early on, this season past. Gilmore is the anti-BVG, not the big buddy.
I could see moving Gilmore to a strength and conditioning position, where he could teach technique as part of off season weight training, based upon rules and regs. Now that would be awesome. Because pound for pound, I think Keith Gilmore is one of the best technical teachers for defensive line play that I have seen.
I saw him up close and personal while he was at BG. You have to remember, he piled up those fantastic stats, against some really potent offenses, in a league with parity.
Look at what the offenses he played against and shut down did against non conference opponents in those days! I am talking Big 10, Big 12, SEC, etc., not D2!
For example, the University of Toledo, which has had major offensive production for the last ten or twelve years, was stomped by BG defensively during those years. BG hasn't defeated UT since Elko left if memory serves. And the year OSU pulled it out of their asses to come back against the Rockets, I also believe Elko did as well defensively as the Buckeyes, against the Rockets.
And in those days, Mike just didn't have the depth of defensive talent at BGSU as a lot of MAC teams had; (WMU, NI, BSU, UT, etc.)
As far as Gilmore, does someone have information that I don't? Because I think that the defensive line play has really improved technically since his arrival. And I think the players love him and will play for him. That may be the only drawback I've seen, he may be a bit too familiar.
But when people talked about him being let go with BVG, and Paul Longo, I have to question that. One thing that I can't believe is a secret any longer anywhere, is how BVG and Keith Gilmore went at it furiously, to the point of blows from early on, this season past. Gilmore is the anti-BVG, not the big buddy.
I could see moving Gilmore to a strength and conditioning position, where he could teach technique as part of off season weight training, based upon rules and regs. Now that would be awesome. Because pound for pound, I think Keith Gilmore is one of the best technical teachers for defensive line play that I have seen.
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Torre Becton in mix for strength and conditioning job for coach for Washington huskies and USC. I would like this because he is a former DL and seems like our DL conditioning is lacking the most
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When I first saw the pic, I thought it was Chip Kelly. lol
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Now we just need a stud OC/QB coach hire
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Why? We have both in our HC.
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About this. Has there been any recent rumours, rumblings about possible hires or interviews? Also, who will be our new TE coach?
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It's too bad the Raiders are on a tear this year and have the 5th best rushing attack. Their RB coach is Bernie Parmalee, and he was the one that helped turn ND into "TE U." Would love to have him back.
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Pete Thamel is reporting that Denbrock has taken the Cincy OC job. Can't embed tweet on phone