NCAA Playoff Committee Rankings 2014 (Unranked)

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Nebraska has games left @ Wisconsin, vs. Minnesota, @ Iowa.

I could see them losing 2 of those games. So if MSU wins against OSU, they'll have beaten them and a maybe 3 loss Nebraska at the end of the year. Does our schedule trump theirs if that plays out? I think so.
 

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Alabama - Had a bye. During which, WVU (their one quality win) lost. Suddenly, WVU is a three-loss team and probably out of the top 25. Does Alabama stay at #5? Do they move up? Do they fall a couple spots?

Yea, here's what one ESPN article, mind you after WVU lost to TCU, had to say...

Alabama's only victory over a ranked opponent was a 59-0 rout of Texas A&M, which now looks nothing like a Top-25 squad, <b>although its win over West Virginia in Week 1 is looking better and better. </b>

Yea.
 

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TAMU sucks, but WVU is a good team. Top 25, maybe not, but deserves some recognition as a quality win on the road. All 3 losses were to quality teams (Bama, OK, and TCU). IMO, the best 3 loss team in the country right now, and better than several 2 loss power conference teams. If they $hit the bed against TX or IA St, then my opinion will change. They will likely pick up a 4th loss to another good team in K St. Hope not. We need WV to beat K St. if they get past TCU.
 

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Just my opinions:

There is no way Alabama deserves to be ahead of TCU when the new rankings come out. They'll have their chance with LSU, MSU, and Auburn left on the schedule. But there's no argument to move them up in the new rankings and it'll scream SEC bias (or Alabama bias) if they move up.

TCU should get a bump after beating a ranked WVU squad and ASU should get a bump after beating a ranked Utah squad. UCLA will get a bump after beating a ranked Arizona squad.

Arizona falls, Georgia falls, WVU falls, Utah falls, Louisville falls, ECU falls.

And everyone else fills in accordingly.

USC and Florida may enter the top 25 as three-loss teams. WVU may stay in the top 25 as a three-loss team as well.
 

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Just my opinions:

There is no way Alabama deserves to be ahead of TCU when the new rankings come out. They'll have their chance with LSU, MSU, and Auburn left on the schedule. But there's no argument to move them up in the new rankings and it'll scream SEC bias (or Alabama bias) if they move up.

TCU should get a bump after beating a ranked WVU squad and ASU should get a bump after beating a ranked Utah squad. UCLA will get a bump after beating a ranked Arizona squad.

Arizona falls, Georgia falls, WVU falls, Utah falls, Louisville falls, ECU falls.

And everyone else fills in accordingly.

USC and Florida may enter the top 25 as three-loss teams. WVU may stay in the top 25 as a three-loss team as well.

If Florida is #25, I will lose all respect for this committee. I may not like their method, but at this point, I can respect it. Putting a team at #25 that is 4-3 and is two weeks removed from a 29 point loss at home to a Missouri team that has beaten nobody (and lost to Indiana at home and 34-0 to Georgia) would be a damn shame.
 

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I think we need either:
1) Miss State to roll through the rest of the SEC, leaving all teams with 2+ losses.
2) Crappy SEC East team to beat one-loss SEC West team in the championship.

Also hoping for:
- TCU to lose to KState and KState to lose to WVU or something.
- Upsets in the Big 10.
- ASU to win P12.
 

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If Florida is #25, I will lose all respect for this committee. I may not like their method, but at this point, I can respect it. Putting a team at #25 that is 4-3 and is two weeks removed from a 29 point loss at home to a Missouri team that has beaten nobody (and lost to Indiana at home and 34-0 to Georgia) would be a damn shame.

I don't think they will enter the top 25. I just listed them as a team to keep an eye on, I guess. They have an easy schedule leading up to FSU. If they win that game, by some miracle, you'll have a 3-loss UF with wins over GA and FSU and representing the SEC-East.

When you look at the AP, Colorado St was first out, receiving 67 votes, followed by USC, Mizzou, and GT. FL only received one vote.

I jumped the gun by listing UF as a potential top 25 team for this week's rankings. I think CO St and GT will get in the top 25 for this week. Just a hunch.
 

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Listening to CFB daily on espnu, and they're still talking about Oregon getting a pass for their loss because of losing a starting LT. Can ND get a pass for losing their starting linebacker against Navy for the reason for a close win?

Injuries have to be the most annoying argument and case for all of these discussions.
 

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Listening to CFB daily on espnu, and they're still talking about Oregon getting a pass for their loss because of losing a starting LT. Can ND get a pass for losing their starting linebacker against Navy for the reason for a close win?

Injuries have to be the most annoying argument and case for all of these discussions.

Why not give us a pass for losing recruits? Notre Dame would have won if recruiting had been better! That wouldn't be much stupider than allowing an injury to nullify a loss.
 

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Just my opinions:

There is no way Alabama deserves to be ahead of TCU when the new rankings come out. They'll have their chance with LSU, MSU, and Auburn left on the schedule. But there's no argument to move them up in the new rankings and it'll scream SEC bias (or Alabama bias) if they move up.

TCU should get a bump after beating a ranked WVU squad and ASU should get a bump after beating a ranked Utah squad. UCLA will get a bump after beating a ranked Arizona squad.

Arizona falls, Georgia falls, WVU falls, Utah falls, Louisville falls, ECU falls.

And everyone else fills in accordingly.

USC and Florida may enter the top 25 as three-loss teams. WVU may stay in the top 25 as a three-loss team as well.

Agree on Bama. They should not be ahead of TCU. Kansas State as well IMO. We control our own destiny with LSU, Miss St, and Auburn so it will work itself out in the end. We have to win out to be there in the end so the polls in November are meaningless for me.

Fla is not Top 25 but could get there if they can keep winning. Ga.. I pray every day that they extend Mark Richt's contract for another ten years. I want him there as long as possible. He is always good for one or two bad losses a year. The right coach at Ga could take that program to elite heights with all the talent they get year in and year out.
 

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Listening to CFB daily on espnu, and they're still talking about Oregon getting a pass for their loss because of losing a starting LT. Can ND get a pass for losing their starting linebacker against Navy for the reason for a close win?

Injuries have to be the most annoying argument and case for all of these discussions.

Agree, they want the four best to be in the playoffs. Not the four best with exceptions. As someone once said, "Your record is who you are".
 

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Agree on Bama. They should not be ahead of TCU. Kansas State as well IMO. We control our own destiny with LSU, Miss St, and Auburn so it will work itself out in the end. We have to win out to be there in the end so the polls in November are meaningless for me.

Fla is not Top 25 but could get there if they can keep winning. Ga.. I pray every day that they extend Mark Richt's contract for another ten years. I want him there as long as possible. He is always good for one or two bad losses a year. The right coach at Ga could take that program to elite heights with all the talent they get year in and year out.

Good guy, at least as far as SEC coaches go, but yes, underachieves year after year after year after year after year.......
 

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Agree, they want the four best to be in the playoffs. Not the four best with exceptions. As someone once said, "Your record is who you are".

So does this mean that ND gets a pass for not having KR, DD, and Williams?
 

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still cant believe WVU let TCU slip out of their hands...they had them dead to rights but just kept turning the ball over and over and over...whats even worse is the pundits and jacklegs acting like TCU "kicked WVU ass on the road." puhlease, i watched that entire game--WVU should have won it going away. TCU lucky to crawl out of there with the W.
 

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still cant believe WVU let TCU slip out of their hands...they had them dead to rights but just kept turning the ball over and over and over...whats even worse is the pundits and jacklegs acting like TCU "kicked WVU ass on the road." puhlease, i watched that entire game--WVU should have won it going away. TCU lucky to crawl out of there with the W.

That game falls on the WV coach. He tried to sandbag his way to a win late in the game. One first down on their last 2 drives and they walk out win a win and a huge jump in the polls. Now... they get some third rate bowl game.
 

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... as with all debates here, the issues are far more complex than the combatants freely admit to one another. Example: FSU is EXTREMELY reliant upon a certain QB who [though very unlikely] could get thrown out of college football for his poor choices. On the one hand I'd certainly CONSIDER FSU with Winston [despite their great dependency], and on the other I'd certainly consider them a much weaker team if he was ineligible.

That's just an example. Fiction to set up a point. Which is: I've seen evaluators with the philosophy that who you have available matters to the evaluation [whether it was a past loss or a future vulnerability], and others who say that they will view nothing but the actual "objective" results of the team and take no personnel specifics into account. Both philosophies can be defended.

For me, the first philosophy can be "wise" but more often is used to rationalize why this or that happened when in fact there is no "scientific" reason to support that [as the alternate "experiment" can never be run.] Also, practitioners of the first philosophy often play fast and loose with it, applying it to one team and not another, or applying it to past losses while not applying it to future vulnerability or vice versa --- it seems to me that consistency demands both.

Anyway, this numerical list and sort thing that this committee is doing will likely smudge all these different philosophies and personal choice methodologies out, and the simplest things [W/L] will be left standing as unusually powerful.
 

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I'd rather roll with BVG's aggressive style of defense and get gashed from time to time than watch us bleed to death from a thousand paper cuts as we "bend but don't break" under Diaco.
 
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I'd rather roll with BVG's aggressive style of defense and get gashed from time to time than watch us bleed to death from a thousand paper cuts as we "bend but don't break" under Diaco.

Apologies for editing your post. I meant that for another thread and it was my mistake. Otherwise I mostly agree with you but I will add that both schemes obviously have its good and bad qualities. I like to be the agressor on d though.
 

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Personally, I think if a team is so reliant on one or two players, then why is the team being considered for a spot in the playoffs to begin with?

Outside of quarterbacks, who are a special case, there are very few individual players in college football who in themselves make the difference between winning and losing a game. Maybe an elite WR or an utter stud of a pass rusher. Maybe.
You are what your record says you are. Every team suffers injuries. And if you don't have a backup offensive lineman or linebacker capable of stepping in and playing at a reasonable level, that's on you as a team and a program. Next man in, motherfucker.
 

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I'd rather roll with BVG's aggressive style of defense and get gashed from time to time than watch us bleed to death from a thousand paper cuts as we "bend but don't break" under Diaco.

Agree. Made to many average QB's look great.
 

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Apologies for editing your post. I meant that for another thread and it was my mistake. Otherwise I mostly agree with you but I will add that both schemes obviously have its good and bad qualities. I like to be the agressor on d though.
I like an aggressive team on all accounts, coaching, offense, defense, etc. One thing I've noticed is that we bring the pain this year on defense. Under Diaco we were for the most part fundamentally sound and executed decent game plans, but we weren't aggressive and I don't remember many big hits or anything. This year we seem to fly to the ball and we hit hard. On more than one occasion I've seen our defenders deliver big blows. One player who exemplifies this is Max Redfield. That kid can hit and he can ball. Him crushing Gardner made him my favorite player on defense and is example of what I'm talking about.
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I'll always remember that play.

I like that this team is young and aggressive and I'm willing to see us take some short term set backs because I think it will pay dividends in the future. I think we're going to finish out this year strong and next year we'll be the team that programs worry about having on their schedule. We're going to be able to score on anybody (not that we can't already) and our extremely young defense is only going to get better with experience. We're going to be a problem for teams.
 

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Fox Sports' Stewart Mandel projects ND v. KSU in the Fiesta Bowl. If we miss the play-offs, that'd be a pretty nice consolation prize.
 

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Fox Sports' Stewart Mandel projects ND v. KSU in the Fiesta Bowl. If we miss the play-offs, that'd be a pretty nice consolation prize.

How does the ACC tie-in work? The bowl game gets the choice, right? And the Orange bowl has first choice? It's hard to see the Orange skipping ND for an uninspiring Clemson team if they have the option of putting ND in its ACC slot.

EDIT: It looks like the ACC tie-in does not apply to the BCS bowls. Accordingly, ND would either be in the Orange Bowl playing an ACC team or have to fill an at-large bid to get into those.
 
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ND/KSU... what should have been...

thanks Obama... er- I mean Baylor.
 

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Round 2 of the Playoff Committee screwings tonight. Since we dropped 1 spot to #8 in the Coach's Poll, is there any chance we move up in the Playoff Poll?
 
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I foresee the coaches poll and Ap polls beginning to mirror the CFPC poll as the season goes on. I think we stay put or drop to 11
 

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How does the ACC tie-in work? The bowl game gets the choice, right? And the Orange bowl has first choice? It's hard to see the Orange skipping ND for an uninspiring Clemson team if they have the option of putting ND in its ACC slot.

EDIT: It looks like the ACC tie-in does not apply to the BCS bowls. Accordingly, ND would either be in the Orange Bowl playing an ACC team or have to fill an at-large bid to get into those.

ACC has a automatic bid to the Orange. Whoever is the highest rank team left between ND, SEC or Big 10 will get the other bid. Right now according to the CFP rankings it would be Clemson (since FSU is in the playoff) vs Alabama.
 
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