Navy Post Game

[Grahambo]

As far as I'm concerned, jury is out on Onwualu's overall net impact. That said, given the choice between those two packages - Coney and Morgan have infinitely more potential and possibly could wind up being just as effective NOW. I'm with you on this one.

I just want to see them get more burn. I think they've earned it and I think with USC, they will be needed.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

How about the first series of the game? ND outweighs Navy by about 75 pounds per man up front (half joking) and they go 3 and out with 3 pass plays.

3 plays later Navy scores haha.

 

[OCIrish]

Didn't get to watch anybody the to game really as I was at work all day yesterday, so any thoughts and opinions from you guys have been greatly appreciated!

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Worse then Schmidt was Onwalu. He played a major role in both of those long TD runs. Coney and Morgan definitely need more PT though.

Look, just survive Navy. Win and get out with no major injuries. They did both. On to SC.

James got benched after the second TD. James should really only play again st teams that run the spread.


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[dmort]

Sounds like this board has become ND Nation.Some of you need to remember these are 19-21 year old kids still learning a complicated game.Please give them a break and move on to USC.

 

[ThePiombino]

Sounds like this board has become ND Nation.Some of you need to remember these are 19-21 year old kids still learning a complicated game.Please give them a break and move on to USC.

I like when people throw out the NDNation comparison when clearly they've never spend time on the NDNation boards lol

Nothing about this convo is NDNation-like.

 

[connor_in]

I'm sorry, I am confused. Are the coaches not starting Morgan and Coney because they are stupid or because they are incompetent? (they = coaches)

 

[ThePiombino]

I'm sorry, I am confused. Are the coaches not starting Morgan and Coney because they are stupid or because they are incompetent? (they = coaches)

The official reason is 1) they (coaches) believe Schmidt is the best current solution for ALL of the needs of the mic position and 2) Coney does not play Schmidt's position and sure as hell isn't going to unseat Jaylon - whose position he DOES play.

 

[NDRock]

I like when people throw out the NDNation comparison when clearly they've never spend time on the NDNation boards lol

Nothing about this convo is NDNation-like.

For starters the conversation revolves around football as opposed to grass, jumbotrons, Tier 1 vs Tier 2 opponents, why Kelly isn't Ara (or Lou), how stupid Swarbrick is, how much better ND was when they attended, etc...

 

[Kak7304]

I like when people throw out the NDNation comparison when clearly they've never spend time on the NDNation boards lol

Nothing about this convo is NDNation-like.

Yea, NDNation had a fire Kelly, bring in Stoops convo going yesterday. This was after Texas beat UO and ND beat Navy. They're on a different level over there.

 

[ThePiombino]

For starters the conversation revolves around football as opposed to grass, jumbotrons, Tier 1 vs Tier 2 opponents, why Kelly isn't Ara (or Lou), how stupid Swarbrick is, how much better ND was when they attended, etc...

Yea, NDNation had a fire Kelly, bring in Stoops convo going yesterday. This was after Texas beat UO and ND beat Navy. They're on a different level over there.

^ I rest my case lol

 

[koonja]

Trying to get some context to the reasons Schmidt is needed out there...

What exactly is he lining up? It's obviously nothing in the secondary, and we rarely (never?) see our DL shift gaps on the LOS like they used to, so what is this algorithm for lining up that only he can figure out? Is it to shift when someone goes in motion? Is that not common knowledge learned in high school?

This is a serious question.

 

[Cackalacky]

I don't give two fucks what the depth chart says. It can only list him at one position, but he plays a ton of both inside and out. If you don't know that, watch Notre Dame football games.

koon... You just summed up your entire sorry posting career in one sentence! From here on out you are on the scout team. Now take a lap.

 

[koonja]

koon... You just summed up your entire sorry posting career in one sentence! From here on out you are on the scout team. Now take a lap.

Scout team would be an improvement in the eyes of many on here. I'm pretty sure I'm in the women's flag football league we saw on Showtime to most of you clowns.

 

[kmoose]

Trying to get some context to the reasons Schmidt is needed out there...

What exactly is he lining up? It's obviously nothing in the secondary, and we rarely (never?) see our DL shift gaps on the LOS like they used to, so what is this algorithm for lining up that only he can figure out? Is it to shift when someone goes in motion? Is that not common knowledge learned in high school?

This is a serious question.

You know why Schmidt is needed out there? Because none of the coaches are playing him DESPITE his back-up being a better option. It doesn't matter whether or not you see it, I see it, or any other fan sees it. The coaches see it; and it must be obvious because there has not been a SINGLE peep, that I am aware of, from the program about unhappiness with Joe Schmidt being the starter.

 

[Cackalacky]

Scout team would be an improvement in the eyes of many on here. I'm pretty sure I'm in the women's flag football league we saw on Showtime to most of you clowns.

The Pangborn Hall Jabronis

 

[koonja]

You know why Schmidt is needed out there? Because none of the coaches are playing him DESPITE his back-up being a better option. It doesn't matter whether or not you see it, I see it, or any other fan sees it. The coaches see it; and it must be obvious because there has not been a SINGLE peep, that I am aware of, from the program about unhappiness with Joe Schmidt being the starter.

Kmoose with the predictable 'the coaches did this so do not question' post. I understand they think Schmidt is the best option. But this is a discussion board and I want to understand why that is since his play is abysmal. So you didn't answer my QU at all. Now, what magical line ups is it that Schmidt is capable of that Morgan, Martini, and Grace are not?

 

[Grahambo]

Kmoose with the predictable 'the coaches did this so do not question' post. I understand they think Schmidt is the best option. But this is a discussion board and I want to understand why that is since his play is abysmal. So you didn't answer my QU at all. Now, what magical line ups is it that Schmidt is capable of that Morgan, Martini, and Grace are not?

From what I recall, he grasped BVG's defense rather quickly last year and was the guy getting everyone set up properly, etc.

I presume the same thing this season? I mean, honestly, I have no idea. But, that's my best guess.

 

[connor_in]

Kmoose with the predictable 'the coaches did this so do not question' post. I understand they think Schmidt is the best option. But this is a discussion board and I want to understand why that is since his play is abysmal. So you didn't answer my QU at all. Now, what magical line ups is it that Schmidt is capable of that Morgan, Martini, and Grace are not?

Have you tried submitting a question to th Brian Kelly coach's radio show?

 

[koonja]

From what I recall, he grasped BVG's defense rather quickly last year and was the guy getting everyone set up properly, etc.

I presume the same thing this season? I mean, honestly, I have no idea. But, that's my best guess.

But what is the concern with lining up properly? I mean, the DL have to know their gaps. They have 2 to choose from. The LBs aren't shifting around, nor are the DL. So is this line up thing made up?

 

[kmoose]

Kmoose with the predictable 'the coaches did this so do not question' post. I understand they think Schmidt is the best option. But this is a discussion board and I want to understand why that is since his play is abysmal. So you didn't answer my QU at all. Now, what magical line ups is it that Schmidt is capable of that Morgan, Martini, and Grace are not?

It's ok to question it, koon............... once or twice. But you fixate on it, and just won't stop. The answer is that none of us know. Most of us are smart enough to figure out that no one outside of the staff knows. Then there's you..........

His play is not "abysmal", koon. He's the second leading tackler on the team, behind only Jaylon Smith. He is absolutely limited in what you can ask him to do, and he has weaknesses, but he is not abysmal. Your posts are, on the whole, more abysmal than Joe Schmidt's performance.

 

[koonja]

It's ok to question it, koon............... once or twice. But you fixate on it, and just won't stop. The answer is that none of us know. Most of us are smart enough to figure out that no one outside of the staff knows. Then there's you..........

His play is not "abysmal", koon. He's the second leading tackler on the team, behind only Jaylon Smith. He is absolutely limited in what you can ask him to do, and he has weaknesses, but he is not abysmal. Your posts are, on the whole, more abysmal than Joe Schmidt's performance.

His play is awful. It doesn't matter how many tackles he has 12 yards down the field. And Navy, a team you'd expect he can physically match up with, continued to dominate him physically. He was served more pancakes by our country men yesterday than the Mikawasha iHop.

 

[RuntheBall]

Remember when Joe's injury was the reason the D tanked late last season?

[Not saying he didn't play poorly, just stating a observation]

 

[kmoose]

His play is awful. It doesn't matter how many tackles he has 12 yards down the field. And Navy, a team you'd expect he can physically match up with, continued to dominate him physically. He was served more pancakes by our country men yesterday than the Mikawasha iHop.

Suit the Fvck Up or STFU? It's pretty easy to sit on your couch, researching ways that you can fvck your company over to your benefit, and talk smack about the kid.......... how about you step up, or shut up?

 

[koonja]

Suit the Fvck Up or STFU? It's pretty easy to sit on your couch, researching ways that you can fvck your company over to your benefit, and talk smack about the kid.......... how about you step up, or shut up?

Lol, you're such an aggressive troll.

I'm not criticizing the kid today. I asked what he has to line up that no one else can. Then you came to say he's not playing bad, which is wrong, so I then explained that he's, well, not playing well.


The question is not if Joe's playing well. Everyone on here agrees he's not. The question is what's he capable of in terms of the lineup that others aren't. Exactly what does Morgan/Grace have to do that they can't currently?

 

[kmoose]

Lol, you're such an aggressive troll.

I'm not criticizing the kid today. I asked what he has to line up that no one else can. Then you came to say he's not playing bad, which is wrong, so I then explained that he's, well, not playing well.

I said that he is not playing "abysmal". I absolutely said that he has limitations and weaknesses. But your obsession with why this guy is playing is bordering on being as ridiculous as your whining about not being informed of every trivial development in the Frozen Five case.

 

[koonja]

I said that he is not playing "abysmal". I absolutely said that he has limitations and weaknesses. But your obsession with why this guy is playing is bordering on being as ridiculous as your whining about not being informed of every trivial development in the Frozen Five case.

Block me. I've never read a post of yours I cared for, but poor posts don't bother me. If they bother you, then you can block me. But you don't.

If anyone cares to give a legitimate answer to the Mike's lining up of the defense, and not discuss whether Schmidt is good or not, I'm all ears. I am legitimately interested in what line up's he's doing that others can't do as well.

 

[ThePiombino]

I'm as perplexed as anyone as to why Schmidt continues to see snaps as the starter. It leads me to believe either A) option(s) behind him are truly that bad or B) the coaches are being beyond stubborn. I'm more inclined to believe 'A', but I'm not sure I can rule 'B' out either.

 

[kmoose]

I'm not criticizing the kid today.

For the record........... from today:

His play is awful.

his play is abysmal.

So tell me again how you are not criticizing him today?

 

[koonja]

For the record........... from today:





So tell me again how you are not criticizing him today?

Because you told me he's not awful, which is widely accepted as false.

But for the love of God, can we please stop discussing if Joe's bad or not. That wasn't the question and doesn't need to be talked about anymore. The question is, what exactly is the Mike LB responsible for in lining up the defense that he's apparently better at than everyone behind him? Is it lining up the DL? Lining up the LBs? Calling plays? Because I don't see any shifting going on, and I know our DL know their gaps.