Dude go in to your place of work and tell them you got a higher paying job offer from another company. Tell them you want to stay with them but you would need a raise to justify turning down the new offers larger salary. Once your employer says "Sure arahop here's a raise that will make you the third highest paid person in your position in the country" turn around and say JK I need more! See what happens.
Exactly. Your ass is on the street. Everyone...I mean everyone is replaceable. Say the person singed the counter offer by current company, you know what the current company always has in the back of their mind...that said person is willing to leave and we need to find a replacement for them when they do leave. And once that replacement is found, hired and trained...said employee is kicked to the curb.
I get it. Elko apparently agreed verbally and then A&M kept offering more. I'm not saying I agree with Elko's ethics if that's how it played out.
But my career isn't college football and that's the way it's played now a day's. So your comparison isn't applicable. The market was set with Aranda and that set the market. If Notre Dame is going be serious about being a contender you can't lose these types of battles.
When it comes to battles of money Notre Dame shouldn't lose many of those and that's how it equates to winning in today's college landscape. If we can't recruit everyone we want because of academic standards then we sure as hell better pay top dollar for coaches. Whatever the perceived budget is, it needs to change for more on the field success. Notre Dame can control that
Completely disagree with this. Elko showed the type of honorable/dishonorable person he is. What's to say Notre Dame offers $2.5 and TAMU final stops and he signs with ND. Then 12 months from now another program, say Nebraska, comes in and offers $3 million. You are going to get involved in a bidding war? Clearly Elko didn't want to be at ND or is all about the money. Notre Dame needed to cut him loose now instead of 12 months from now when he would have been more ingrained in the program. Come on man.
OK then you don't hire him in the first place? If you're giving a 3-year guaranteed deal to someone to leave Wake Forest including a massive pay raise and you're saying "we're willing to make a 3 year commitment to you, fully guaranteed" and the guy on the other side of the table isn't willing to say "OK cool I'll make the same commitment to you" then maybe you shouldn't be hiring them.
Terms of contracts are negotiable, and if such a thing came up in negotiations there should've been a way to get a contract in place that gave ND some surety. As bad as the Weis deal was, the entire point of it was to make it damn near impossible from a financial standpoint for an NFL team to poach him. So regardless of how you want to look at it, there should basically be no situation ever as an AD where you are signing someone to a guaranteed deal for elite money... but they can just walk away whenever they want to greener pastures if they do well. No one does that, ever. Except us apparently.
Sorry, this is beyond wrong. Go look at my posts in the BK revisited thread and elsewhere about Swarbrick I've always been a huge fan. I got in massive arguments with NDgradstudent about him.
This singular error is just absolutely massive, and that's why I'm reacting how I am.
Next time don't ask my opinion if you're going to hit me with this kind of nonsense.
Apologies for making that personal. Hope there is no hard feelings.
I disagree with you about not hiring Elko if he refused to sign a buyout clause. ND made him a top 10 DC and then a top 3 paid DC. You know it and I know it last year ND, Jack S and Kelly were desperate. Everyone was saying ND needs to go after and sign Elko, if they didn't sign would be a huge failure. So say last year the breaking story was Notre Dame and Mike Elko couldn't come to a contract agreement. The media and 99% of the people on Irish Envy would be outraged, taring apart the ND administration, etc.
Do you agree? Or do you really believe if the above scenario took place last year you would have been OK with not signing Elko due to a contract agreement?
Statistical fact that most employees who accept a counter offer from their current employer leave in about a year anyway. Not sure that is valid when discussing college or pro athletics, but thought I would throw that out there.
Yup. Kind of what i mentioned above. Either said employee still looks for a different job for more money or the company replaces the employee...
