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IrishLax

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Yeah sorry I don’t see how we can be a society that simultaneously believes in “fuck around and find out” and then goes all Greta Thunberg when someone goes out of their way to act like a clown and gets their ass beat.
 

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Yeah sorry I don’t see how we can be a society that simultaneously believes in “fuck around and find out” and then goes all Greta Thunberg when someone goes out of their way to act like a clown and gets their ass beat.
Agree. There needs to be accountability on both sides.
 

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Can the Michigan State players go to the it was just practice card like Aaron Donald? NFL didn't even suspend him for his helmet swinging incident.
 

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Yeah sorry I don’t see how we can be a society that simultaneously believes in “fuck around and find out” and then goes all Greta Thunberg when someone goes out of their way to act like a clown and gets their ass beat.
We can't be a society of "personal responsibility" and "accountability" either, then start blaming everyone else when fractions of a team meat out after losing a rivalry game.

What specific details have been released regarding what the Michigan players did to escalate the situation? What did Michigan players do, specifically, to go out of their way to instigate a guy getting taken on by a gaggle of MSU players? Mostly curious due to one of these programs having developed an incredibly bad reputation as of late when it comes to the conduct of their football team.

This Michigan State program has had issues with players committing acts of violent conduct going back at least five years now, including multiple sexual assaults. A four star recruit from Ft. Wayne, IN is in jail I believe? Their 2016 "Dream Team" recruiting class was broken apart by multiple players in that group committing sexual assault.

Michigan State has issues that have nothing to do with any facility upgrades needed in Ann Arbor.
 

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3 of the 8 suspended players got to MSU via the portal under Tucker.

#TuckComin
 

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can't wait in the upcoming weeks to hear from the lawyers representing the MSU players as i'm sure they'll tell you something people on the scUM side aren't telling the media when it comes to things wolverine players might have said or done to set off the spartan players that cameras didn't catch. players just don't beat the sh&t out of other players without something bad being said or done from opposing players
 

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can't wait in the upcoming weeks to hear from the lawyers representing the MSU players as i'm sure they'll tell you something people on the scUM side aren't telling the media when it comes to things wolverine players might have said or done to set off the spartan players that cameras didn't catch. players just don't beat the sh&t out of other players without something bad being said or done from opposing players
you can say stuff, doesnt mean u can beat a person with a helmet. I hate Michigan and its players, but hard to defend what those players did even if provoked with words
 

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Considering this program has a history of players not knowing that no means no when they're with women, it wouldn't surprise me at all that they got a little triggered by some words and chose violence. Snowflakes.
 

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you can say stuff, doesnt mean u can beat a person with a helmet. I hate Michigan and its players, but hard to defend what those players did even if provoked with words
i'm not defending assault and battery as it is totally wrong but my point is that if you talk sh&t to opposing players of a top rival about whatever after giving them a beatdown on the field then you bring this assault and battery onto yourself
 

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Can the Michigan State players go to the it was just practice card like Aaron Donald? NFL didn't even suspend him for his helmet swinging incident.
Claim it was a false flag operation and say it was really ANTIFA (those guys still a thing?).
 

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i'm not defending assault and battery as it is totally wrong but my point is that if you talk sh&t to opposing players of a top rival about whatever after giving them a beatdown on the field then you bring this assault and battery onto yourself

You brought up the lawyers, so my rebuttal would be that the courts don't give a shit about scUM players talking shit. Saying mean things doesn't make it okay to use a helmet as a weapon, so it shouldn't really matter what the MSU lawyers dig up.

The only thing that changes the situation is if they find video that the scUM players attacked first. Then all bets are off.
 

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Considering this program has a history of players not knowing that no means no when they're with women, it wouldn't surprise me at all that they got a little triggered by some words and chose violence. Snowflakes.

Different guys, different coaching staffs. One has nothing to do with the other, except they wear the same uniform.
 

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My personal "Fuck Michigan State" moment

I hope that m'fer gets CTE


 

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Different guys, different coaching staffs. One has nothing to do with the other, except they wear the same uniform.
Miami had institutional failure that spanned the course of three decades.

Michigan State Football has been having issues for some time now. To believe otherwise means the problem is being ignored.
 

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Miami had institutional failure that spanned the course of three decades.

Michigan State Football has been having issues for some time now. To believe otherwise means the problem is being ignored.
That may be true, but the guys who swung helmets are not the same guys who sexually assaulted women.

They're shitty enough on their own merits. Don't paint them as sex offenders because they're not the same people.
 

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That may be true, but the guys who swung helmets are not the same guys who sexually assaulted women.

They're shitty enough on their own merits. Don't paint them as sex offenders because they're not the same people.
I'm not painting anyone as sex offenders, and if you're getting that twisted, I'll clear it up shortly in a few sentences. This program has systemic issues past and present with violence, both of criminal and sexual nature.

Michigan State Football going back to Dantonio's end of tenure has had minor to major problems with players acting violently off the field. The behavior and general vibe around the program has been toxic for at least five years. Either they're not doing their homework on the recruiting trail or they're ignoring red flags and they're negligent.
 

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Dramatic tweet.

Per the article-

The Athletic Director is the one who was given the power to decide how the money would be split, if at all.
 

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Dramatic tweet.

Per the article-

The Athletic Director is the one who was given the power to decide how the money would be split, if at all.

That’s crazy. You just signed very good extension that pays you 9.5 million dollars. (MSU was dumb) 100,000 isn’t anything to you. You are having a terrible season. Show the people that are helping you that you do care and appreciate them.

This is going to end up just like the Jimbo Fisher deal.
 

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Man, I thought Mel Tucker was going to be the guy. I guess true colors show through when adversity hits.
 

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Yes. This is on the scUM administration as much as anyone. This isn't the first time it's happened. Security should be in place and both teams should know who's going in or our first. Just remember to save Jimmy Johnson's ass for me.
Grown ass men should be able to walk next to each other without falling to violence. These are men at places of higher education. The only ones responsible for these actions are the ones committing the violent acts.
 
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