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I can understand how a lot of people are threatened by being judged by the content of their character. This can motivate people to assassinate the character of others as people of low moral character frequently find tearing others down the only way to build themselves up. Being enriched unjustly isn't good enough for some reason, why must the negatively impacted be demonized and marginalized to boot?

Two sleeps and zero riots. GTFO with the "get ugly fast" rhetoric. One demo is proven violent and destructive five years ago - rather than give credit for decorum you wishcast?

RDU memory holed Jan 6th apparently.
 

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I can understand how a lot of people are threatened by being judged by the content of their character. This can motivate people to assassinate the character of others as people of low moral character frequently find tearing others down the only way to build themselves up. Being enriched unjustly isn't good enough for some reason, why must the negatively impacted be demonized and marginalized to boot?

Two sleeps and zero riots. GTFO with the "get ugly fast" rhetoric. One demo is proven violent and destructive five years ago - rather than give credit for decorum you wishcast?


I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here (I'm really not sure), but you highlighted my use of white.
I only am using white because all we've heard is the "woke left" and this shooter must be from some radicalized left group, etc.
And as far as I can tell, he's not, but just became disillusioned and isolated and finally decided to commit this heinous act.

As far as using white, I'm making the point that until recently, he seems to be just an ordinary white, middle-class kid who went astray.
And yes, I'm saying it could get ugly fast as long as DJT keeps riling up the white (and can even be white supremacists, but I won't say that because I don't know what that group of white guys protesting in Huntington Beach is comprised of, but is even worse IMO if it's just white guys getting angry when the assassination was not an affront to them being white and oppressed).

Sure, maybe there's some political motivation behind the shooting (but unproven right now, and the kid was unregistered and hasn't voted in last two elections, so maybe he just didn't agree w/ Charlie Kirk's values and ideology and so decided to shoot him), but it isn't about Charlie Kirk being a martyr for white folks.
 

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After a weekend of football this will be completely memory holed. Embarrassing that places had moments of silence for some idiot getting killed by a Groyper.
 

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LLF - the fact that you are so open on the exchange of ideas bodes well for this country.
 

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So it looks like it was a beef between Kirk and Fuentes' supporters? Is that what I'm seeing? Y'all really don't understand the streets of Chicago. Hurry up and send the national guard in
It would be pretty ironic if all of this ended up being a culture/turf war fought between two suburban Chicagoans with infinitely punchable faces.
 

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I referenced the killer cop early in this conversation. If you think J6 was anything like the summer of love BLM riots you are not a serious person.
You're right they're not similar. Jan 6th was infinitely worse.

Thousands of rioters from BLM protests were arrested, hundreds were charged and convicted. As they should have been. None were pardoned by President Biden, nor should they have been. They also weren't rioting at the direction of the president for a specific goal. They were morons taking advantage of chaos for personal gain.

Jan 6th rioters overtook our nations capital in an attempt to stop a federal election. Those that were convicted have been pardoned by Trump himself who incited the whole event to try and steal an election.

So yeah. They aren't the same. You're right.
 

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You're right they're not similar. Jan 6th was infinitely worse.

Thousands of rioters from BLM protests were arrested, hundreds were charged and convicted. As they should have been. None were pardoned by President Biden, nor should they have been. They also weren't rioting at the direction of the president for a specific goal. They were morons taking advantage of chaos for personal gain.

Jan 6th rioters overtook our nations capital in an attempt to stop a federal election. Those that were convicted have been pardoned by Trump himself who incited the whole event to try and steal an election.

So yeah. They aren't the same. You're right.

Thank you for whataboutism derailing conversation. Capital was back in session the same day. Only person murdered was an unarmed woman. No firearms recovered from protesters - pretty terrible attempt at a coup for the most heavily armed demographic in the country. Carry on.
 

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Lots of people on the left are getting fired the past 48 hours for cheering on his death

 

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Thank you for whataboutism derailing conversation. Capital was back in session the same day. Only person murdered was an unarmed woman. No firearms recovered from protesters - pretty terrible attempt at a coup for the most heavily armed demographic in the country. Carry on.
Sorry for providing pushback on your absolutely asinine assertion that only one side is violent.

Oh guys only one person died and they failed their coup! No harm no foul!

We're one Mike Pence growing a spine from having had a full blown constitutional crisis. Ignore Trump's fake electors scheme. Ignore Trump calling and pressuring election officials to find him votes. Ignore the mob chanting for the VPs death. Ignore Trump to this day continuing to lie about all of this which has been proven false in hundreds of legal cases.
 

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Sorry for providing pushback on your absolutely asinine assertion that only one side is violent.

Oh guys only one person died and they failed their coup! No harm no foul!

We're one Mike Pence growing a spine from having had a full blown constitutional crisis. Ignore Trump's fake electors scheme. Ignore Trump calling and pressuring election officials to find him votes. Ignore the mob chanting for the VPs death. Ignore Trump to this day continuing to lie about all of this which has been proven false in hundreds of legal cases.
He can't even use the correct form of "Capitol".
 

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I think Antifa and the channels that radicalized him and allegedly provided him his weapons to commit the assassination would count as the Lunatic Left
Just because he grew up in a conservative republican family doesn’t mean he shares the same views as the rest of the family. I imagine many on here aren’t carbon copies of their parents.
 

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That's why there are different opinions, Gattaca. How many times does this need to be adjudicated in this forum before you realize people are on different sides of these events?
 

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Lots of people on the left are getting fired the past 48 hours for cheering on his death



I will be awaiting the staunch defenders of freedom of speech to take a stand against people losing their jobs!!! This is not ok!!!!! /s

What about government officials!



We are all very earnest in our assessment of government overreach into censorship!!!! /s

How did I know that it was all a facade the entire time?

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It's almost surreal how they pretend to be concerned for free speech and one second later admit free speech is bad if it isn't THEIR free speech... which must of course mean it's vile and deserving of censorship,... talk about demoralized masses.
2. How does Libs of TikTok promote hateful content? It's quite the opposite. They literally just repost liberal content as a means to call out bad behavior. They're not creating the content, they link it and effectively say "Hey, this is wrong."
8. Conservatives were censored for saying Rachel Levine is a man, and questioning "facts" like the COVID jab would prevent infection and transmission of the virus, many of which were permanent bans till Elon took over. These recent suspensions are temporary and put people's lives at risk. It's a little different.
I am absolutely sickened by the COVID censorship, which you ignored here, because I think of all of the lives needlessly lost. That doesn't seem to bother you at all.

Government censorship of any kind is bad. Period. It sets a precedent that enables them to do it in the future. Careful what you wish for because they will do it again, and at some point, it will inevitably impact you. Censorship is not okay even when it benefits your beliefs - it's a dangerous road to travel.
Kamala and her runningmate out here advocating for actual authoritarian bullshit like censorship and firearm confiscation, but Trump is the fascist dictator because he jokingly said he would be dictator for a day to shut down the border and grant more drilling leases. Thankfully we have a serious media and a candidate who is open to explaining her positions on the record to a journalist
As far as X goes, it's entirely open sourced for transparency. I personally am a firm believer in free speech and I cringe at the idea of censorship, "disinformation" laws, etc. If/when you see throttling of liberal views and censorship on X, then let the freak out ensue. Until then, he should just divest and let someone else run it temporarily like any other company.
BBC has their own platform to publish their content and don't need twitter. This isn't comparable to individuals being removed from twitter because of political opposition.
 

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Lots of people on the left are getting fired the past 48 hours for cheering on his death


Saw where DC Comics cancelled a newly released comic because the creator posted basically celebrating his death.
 

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Why does it even matter whether he's a conservative, liberal, transexual, dog, alien, etc. His values are extreme to the point of being inhumane and do not reflect on the mainstream worldview held by 99.9% of the population whether left or right. I do not understand the ghoulish delight everyone has in labeling him toward one side or the other. The only thing that matters is that he was a broken person. I think there's some value in finding out what broke him, but I can promise you whatever it was wasn't mainstream political opinions. No matter what you read on this board or social media, this sort of violence is EXTREMELY rare for any demographic. This need to score political points off a corpse is so fuckin weird.
 

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Sorry for providing pushback on your absolutely asinine assertion that only one side is violent.

Oh guys only one person died and they failed their coup! No harm no foul!

We're one Mike Pence growing a spine from having had a full blown constitutional crisis. Ignore Trump's fake electors scheme. Ignore Trump calling and pressuring election officials to find him votes. Ignore the mob chanting for the VPs death. Ignore Trump to this day continuing to lie about all of this which has been proven false in hundreds of legal cases.

How many attempts on Pence's life again? Such a violent crowd, so angry at Pence yet the only threat to him ever was contracting disease from a fly. Dipshit.
 
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