Mayweather vs. McGregor

[DomerInHappyValley]

So looks like this fight is actually happening, and by fight I obviously mean sparring for Mayweather.
I hope the pay day is worth it for McGregor he's an entertaining MMA fightet but Mayweather is just gonna pick him apart.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Mayweather vs. McGregor

This won't be competitive IMO. It's gonna be 12 rounds of patty cakes, with Mayweather playing nice and keeping him upright, ala Muhammad Ali vs Lyle Alzado back in the day.

Anyone who pays for this out of even morbid curiosity will be extremely disappointed.

 

[DomerInHappyValley]

See that's the issue I think Conor is gonna land a big shot on Floyd and piss him off.

 

[IrishLion]

I don't think Conor is gonna be able to tag Floyd unless Floyd dicks around too much, and I don't see that happening with the greatest defensive boxer in the world.

Floyd's gonna jab and evade, jab and evade, clinch, cover when Conor tries to throw a combo, and then evade some more.

It's gonna be 100x worse that Mayweather/Pacquiao

 

[DomerInHappyValley]

Conor is allowed to use a superman punch. I think he'll land one of those.
If he does then this fight ends when Floyd decides to otherwise its a massive pay day for a sparring match.

 

[Wild Bill]

A boxing match between a professional boxer and an amateur boxer, huh? I wonder what will happen.

 

[BobbyMac]

I hope Floyd chooses his words poorly and tries to act like he'd kick McGregor's ass on the street. If this fight was held in the alley behind the arena, now that I'd pay for that because I'm curious if Floyd could count his stacks while unconscious.

 

[woolybug25]

MMA is for the poors

 

[nlroma1o]

As much as we all want to see an entertaining match. If Conor doesn't get lucky and tag him early, this fight is going to be your standard Floyd running away snoozefest.

 

[NorthDakota]

As much as we all want to see an entertaining match. If Conor doesn't get lucky and tag him early, this fight is going to be your standard Floyd running away snoozefest.

Sad. A whole generation of young people dont care about boxing and i think Floyd is a big reason why.

 

[jspags10pg]

Only chance Conor has of not being embarrassed is if there's a fix or if he breaks the rules a time or two to give Floyd something to think about and throw his timing off. Like a knee in the clinch or a leg kick or something like that. He can play it off like an accident and obviously be penalized but it would still help more than hurt.

I'm a big MMA fan and like Conor but he has no shot in a legit boxing match. None.

That said...it will look bad for Floyd if he can't stop a guy who has never boxed professionally before. No decision...a stoppage. And vice-versa. It will look good for Conor if he goes all the way without getting hurt. I fully expect him to get lit up but maybe he's tough enough to stay on his feet the whole time. We'll see.

 

[Wild Bill]

I hope Floyd chooses his words poorly and tries to act like he'd kick McGregor's ass on the street. If this fight was held in the alley behind the arena, now that I'd pay for that because I'm curious if Floyd could count his stacks while unconscious.

Depends who threw the first punch. If it's Floyd, he'd put a three piece combo on McGregor that would end his night within moments.

In a ring it won't matter. McGregor couldn't hit Floyd with a handful of rocks.

Sad. A whole generation of young people dont care about boxing and i think Floyd is a big reason why.

Maybe.

There is no organization in boxing or investment in the future of boxing. It's just a big money grab and those who grabbed the money in the glory days didn't see it fit or profitable to invest in the future of the sport. Boxing will be more popular when kids start boxing. It's a great sport but kind of tricky with children. I want my child to learn boxing but I will not be happy if he decides to box, if that makes any sense.

 

[jspags10pg]

Depends who threw the first punch. If it's Floyd, he'd put a three piece combo on McGregor that would end his night within moments.

In a ring it won't matter. McGregor couldn't hit Floyd with a handful of rocks.

Legs are longer (and stronger) than arms. Conor could snap any kick before Floyd is even within punching range. Give them full stand-up rules and Conor would dominate. Boxing rules...Floyd dominates...therefore, for this match, Floyd will pick him apart. Totally agree with your last sentence.

 

[FDNYIrish1]

I cannot believe the payday for this garbage. The only chance Conor has is to go full Thunderlips on Floyd, in which case he loses a ton of money. There's got to be more to this, I'll be shocked if Floyd gets touched.

 

[BobbyMac]

MMA is for the poors

Who would you rather scrap with in the front yard?

Depends who threw the first punch. If it's Floyd, he'd put a three piece combo on McGregor that would end his night within moments.

In a ring it won't matter. McGregor couldn't hit Floyd with a handful of rocks.

100% no. Floyd has zero skill at not being taken down and that's the first thing that happens 100% of the time. From there, McGregor only has to hit him if wants to. Floyd snores 100% of the time. Period.

 

[nlroma1o]

Conor has a hell of a chin on him, so I see slim to no chance that old man Floyd and his soft broken hands can do any damange to Conor. The whole match is going to be Conor getting tired chasing Floyd around the ring. Or Conor gets lucky and tags him early. I don't see any other outcome than those 2.

 

[Wild Bill]

Who would you rather scrap with in the front yard?



100% no. Floyd has zero skill at not being taken down and that's the first thing that happens 100% of the time. From there, McGregor only has to hit him if wants to. Floyd snores 100% of the time. Period.

That's what happens when drunken morons who have no idea how to throw a punch get into bar fights but I assure you that wouldn't happen to a mediocre boxer, let alone a guy like Floyd.

I wouldn't argue that Floyd or any other boxer wouldn't be screwed if they were taken to the ground, which is why I said it depends on who threw the first punch. Anyone with a background in boxing who gets into a bar confrontation is likely to throw the first punch when someone invades their space. You end it quick and easy with cross, hook, cross, and get back to drinking. I always preferred a quick combo to rolling around on a piss/booze soaked floor and my hands aren't nearly as fast as Floyd's, I'm sorry to say. And I don't care how tough McGregor's chin may be. He's going to sleep from a couple shots without the protection of a glove.

 

[IrishLion]

My dad could beat up your dad

 

[woolybug25]

Who would you rather scrap with in the front yard?



100% no. Floyd has zero skill at not being taken down and that's the first thing that happens 100% of the time. From there, McGregor only has to hit him if wants to. Floyd snores 100% of the time. Period.

Exactly... only poors scrap in the front yard.

 

[BobbyMac]

That's what happens when drunken morons who have no idea how to throw a punch get into bar fights but I assure you that wouldn't happen to a mediocre boxer, let alone a guy like Floyd.

I wouldn't argue that Floyd or any other boxer wouldn't be screwed if they were taken to the ground, which is why I said it depends on who threw the first punch. Anyone with a background in boxing who gets into a bar confrontation is likely to throw the first punch when someone invades their space. You end it quick and easy with cross, hook, cross, and get back to drinking. I always preferred a quick combo to rolling around on a piss/booze soaked floor and my hands aren't nearly as fast as Floyd's, I'm sorry to say. And I don't care how tough McGregor's chin may be. He's going to sleep from a couple shots without the protection of a glove.

No. Sorry but you just wasted your time. Boxers have ZEEEEEEEEERO defense against being taken down. They NEVER have trained to hit a guy who is shooting low... a guy who has trained for years to do such a move.

It ends the same way every time. If Connor was feeling frisky and didn't want to choke him out, he could do the world a favor and put him in an arm bar and rip every ligament out of his elbow so he would definitely retire.

 

[Irish#1]

No need to talk about MMA or if this were an MMA fight instead of boxing because it isn't. If Conor had the skills to be a boxer, he'd already be one. I will be surprised if he even lands a glancing blow.

IrishLion, if my dad were here.........

 

[ACamp1900]

This would have been vaguely interesting had it been two fights, one for each craft...

 

[koonja]

So for the 'it only takes one punch' people, when's the last time a dangerous puncher with little boxing skill beat someone who was weaker, but a highly skilled boxer?

 

[jspags10pg]

So for the 'it only takes one punch' people, when's the last time a dangerous puncher with little boxing skill beat someone who was weaker, but a highly skilled boxer?

Agreed. There have been 49 chances where professional boxers have had the chance to just "land one punch" on Floyd and all have failed. A first time, amateur boxer isn't gonna be the first.

Conor has no shot under boxing rules. Period. Only a fix or rule breaking can save him.

 

[BobbyMac]

Oops. Misread Koon's post.

 

[dublinirish]

So for the 'it only takes one punch' people, when's the last time a dangerous puncher with little boxing skill beat someone who was weaker, but a highly skilled boxer?

Kiko Martinez - Bernard Dunne in 2007.
Dunne was Euro champ defending his title for first time and Martinez was a journeyman considered to have a hard right hand but nothing else in his locker. Martinez knocked him out in 1st round

The EBU made Kiko Martínez the mandatory challenger for Dunne's European super bantamweight title. Martinez and Dunne clashed on 25 August 2007 at the Point Theatre, Dublin, Ireland. This was Martinez's first fight outside of Spain. On the night of the fight the Point Depot filled with expectant Irish boxing fans and the fight was beamed live on RTÉ, the Irish national television broadcaster. The fight started with Dunne keeping his guard low and circling Martinez. However, Martinez quickly had Dunne on the canvas with an overhand right. Dunne appeared stunned and unaware of what had happened. Dunne beat the count but was floored twice more before the referee stopped the fight within only 90 seconds of round one. The Martinez camp stated that they knew there would be a first round victory and that many of them had placed bets worth thousands of pounds with Irish bookmakers at odds of 66/1 that Martinez would win in the first round.

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[NorthDakota]

Agreed. There have been 49 chances where professional boxers have had the chance to just "land one punch" on Floyd and all have failed. A first time, amateur boxer isn't gonna be the first.

Conor has no shot under boxing rules. Period. Only a fix or rule breaking can save him.

49 guys didn't fight Floyd when he was over 40 years old either.

 

[Free Manera]

It is hard for me to even think McGregor has a puncher's chance. The idea that he can land a solid enough punch to cause a knockout seems ridiculously unlikely to me.

It takes years to develop the footwork to even put a fighter in position to land a solid punch on a guy like Mayweather. You can count on one hand how many times Floyd has been caught, and that is by professional boxers, which McGregor is by definition not.

I expect you will hear the crowd ooh and ahh alot when Floyd is "trapped in the corner" (he isn't actually trapped but he's letting his opponent think he is, see Ricky Hatton), because McGregor will be throwing 3 punches a second and look like he's onto something, when in reality they will show slo-mo in between rounds and it will be clear that he actually landed 0/120 shots.

I will probably watch because 1. I am a big boxing fan and appreciate Floyd's mastery of the shell and counterpunching, and 2. this would be upset of the century level if somehow McGregor pulled it off. I am just expected to be pretty disappointed in the competition level.

 

[Free Manera]

49 guys didn't fight Floyd when he was over 40 years old either.

Age is not going to be a factor at all in my opinion. Floyd's style, shell defense and counterpunching, is one that is sustainable. He is ridiculously energy efficient. Not to mention his conditioning will be elite as always. This isn't Roy Jones at 40, a guy who took tons of punishment. Floyd basically went his whole career without getting hit. If anyone needs to worry about stamina, it's McGregor. He has burned out a few times in the octagon.

 

[Free Manera]

Kiko Martinez - Bernard Dunne in 2007.
Dunne was Euro champ defending his title for first time and Martinez was a journeyman considered to have a hard right hand but nothing else in his locker. Martinez knocked him out in 1st round



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There are two fallacies in this discussion:

1. "McGregor is a dangerous puncher" - We don't know McGregor is actually a dangerous puncher in a boxing ring, with 8 or 10 oz gloves. He didn't look very dangerous in his sparring video. His feet were consistently out of position and he was reaching often.

2. "Floyd is a highly skilled boxer, like Bernard Dunne." This is a rather significant understatement. Floyd is probably the best defensive counterpuncher ever. Conor's "signature move" the pull counter, was made famous by Floyd.

On paper this is basically Steve Ray Vaughan trading guitar solos with John Bonham. Yeah, Jon Bonham was pretty damn good behind the drums, but he is going to look like a fish out of the water strapped with a guitar and it's probably going to sound pretty sour. Stevie may take mercy and dial it back for a bit, but at some point he's just going to melt Bonham's face off.