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Man that is soooo wizard.

I'm somewhat upset about the 2015 movie. Let the series die with some dignity. However, on the bright side, maybe Disney will release the original trilogy (not the sh*tty special edition) on bluray and make me happy.
 

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Is it weird that I have only watched one star wars film?

First of all you should stop what you're doing and go watch the originals. Secondly, if the one that you saw was a prequel, I don't blame you for stopping at one.
 

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Disney COULD make a good film, they have made some good movies but also some bad ones. Disney has made all the recent marvel movies.
 

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Disney COULD make a good film, they have made some good movies but also some bad ones. Disney has made all the recent marvel movies.

they own the rights but were not on set making decisions. it is still marvel. im not even sure if its disneys money paying the bills. they may be the distributor. after all, if it was owned by disney, there would cease to be "marvel island" at universal studios islands of adventure.

i worked on iron man 3 this summer, and disney did not have any influence on the operation.
 

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Disney COULD make a good film, they have made some good movies but also some bad ones. Disney has made all the recent marvel movies.

After the last 12 years... I don't know. I watched Jake Lloyd try to learn to act. I listened to Hayden Christensen say the "sand" speech. And I observed Darth Vader go from a badd*ss to comic relief. ("NOOOOOOO!!!!") ...I'm just not ready to put myself back out there.
 

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After the last 12 years... I don't know. I watched Jake Lloyd try to learn to act. I listened to Hayden Christensen say the "sand" speech. And I observed Darth Vader go from a badd*ss to comic relief. ("NOOOOOOO!!!!") ...I'm just not ready to put myself back out there.

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I'm not sure whether to be terrified of the John Carter/Pirates of teh Caribbean awfulness, or actually relieved that someone saved Star Wars from its own can't-direct-for-**** creator.

I suppose I have to rate all of the Star Wars films now haha:

1- D+
2- C+
3- A-

4- A
5- A+
6- A-
 
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After the last 12 years... I don't know. I watched Jake Lloyd try to learn to act. I listened to Hayden Christensen say the "sand" speech. And I observed Darth Vader go from a badd*ss to comic relief. ("NOOOOOOO!!!!") ...I'm just not ready to put myself back out there.

Honestly with some editing the prequels wouldn't be so terrible.

Reshoot the Darth Vader "Noooo!" scene, it's mostly CGI anyway. They could simply get rid of the infamous "sand speech." Hell they could give Jar Jar a new body and voice altogether. Episode I is probably beyond saving though.

I always found it so interesting that guys like Harrison Ford and Alec Guinness would give George Lucas ****--since he wasn't the legend back then--about how awful the scripts were. I think Ford once said while filming "you can write this, but you can't say it!"

I know that the famous scene with Leia and Solo where she says "I love you" and he responds like a badass with "....I know" was actually supposed to be "I love you too." HA! So cheesy. The actors in the first trilogy got a lot of the lines changed, and Lucas didn't direct. That is HUGE.

Unfortunately, by the 1990s, Lucas is untouchable and do you really expect Christiansen to have the stones to tell him that his lines blow? hahahah No chance in hell.
 

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They are making a new one?? According to what? Hopefully the Zahn trilogy...

In terms of Lucas, he already destroyed Star Wars with all the cartoon CPU crap in the last three...
 

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If they are smart they will do the Zahn novels

Heir to the Empire
Dark Foce Rising
The Last Command

and

Outbound Flight


only sci fi I can ever get into is Stars Wars... The Tim Zahn books are great
 

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Man that is soooo wizard.

I'm somewhat upset about the 2015 movie. Let the series die with some dignity. However, on the bright side, maybe Disney will release the original trilogy (not the sh*tty special edition) on bluray and make me happy.

This is just my opinion and I know I'm probably in the minority, but I think Star Wars is very overrated. I understand that the original was groundbreaking in terms of box office and Hollywood etc., but IMHO George Lucas is an awful screenwriter. Empire is by far the best of that series and he didn't write it. The original Star Wars is pretty hokey, IMHO and the acting is pretty bad. If you compare it to something like Blade Runner, it's not even close. However, I give Lucas a lot of credit for coming up with story and being a lead mind in putting things together, including Raiders of the Lost Ark. But I think dying with dignity was lost when Jar Jar Binks hit the screen.

Again, I know I'm in the minority, but I just don't get the thrill from Star Wars that others get.
 

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What's the sand speech?

sand speech is when anakin tells padme that he hates sand... and goes on about it. It was supposed to be romantic? But it's known as being one of the worst exchanges of dialogue ever written.
 
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This is just my opinion and I know I'm probably in the minority, but I think Star Wars is very overrated. I understand that the original was groundbreaking in terms of box office and Hollywood etc., but IMHO George Lucas is an awful screenwriter. Empire is by far the best of that series and he didn't write it. The original Star Wars is pretty hokey, IMHO and the acting is pretty bad. If you compare it to something like Blade Runner, it's not even close. However, I give Lucas a lot of credit for coming up with story and being a lead mind in putting things together, including Raiders of the Lost Ark. But I think dying with dignity was lost when Jar Jar Binks hit the screen.

Again, I know I'm in the minority, but I just don't get the thrill from Star Wars that others get.

Well you wouldn't be in the minority on a lot of that.

It's worth noting that Lucas has only directed six feature films. Two of his first three were incredible, Star Wars and American Graffiti. It's no secret, Lucas is a fantastic producer. But that's how it is in Hollywood, and why teams--not people--create movies. Some people are great at coming up with bold new ideas; others literally have the job of taking raw ideas and reworking them; others have specialties only in certain types of plot lines and can work them into films to deepen them; others are great directors; others are etc etc etc. George Lucas will be remembered as a producer first and foremost.

Still though, you cannot understate the important of George Lucas/Star Wars in Hollywood. The man is a founding father. I love telling this story of how George Lucas basically created modern Hollywood:

When Lucas was a senior at USC, his thesis project (a short segment of a film they need to shoot to graduate) was called THX and was a futuristic dystopian film that was super unique. I believe it won the national 1st place prize, and Lucas wanted to make it into a feature film. His friend (and I believe professor), Francis Ford Coppola agreed to put money down from Warner Brothers and help him make the film (and even make Lucas get someone else to rewrite his crappy script).

The film basically bombed (although now has an 89% of RT). Now Coppola owed Warner Brothers a ton of cash, but Warner Brothers owned a script to a little movie called The Godfather. The first few directors had other obligations, and Coppola refused to direct it too. But WB, fearing a backlash from Italian-Americans, desperately wanted an Italian American to film it, so they told him they'd write off the money owed if he "made them smell the spaghetti."

The Godfather--while brutal to make in its own infamous story--turned out to be, well, the best ever. In fact it was so good that Warner Brothers actually wanted a sequel. That doesn't sound special but go ahead and name for me some big budget sequels prior The Godfather. It's tough to do, they were quite uncommon. The Godfather proved to financiers that sequels could work.

Back to Lucas, he put out American Graffiti and it was terrific but he wanted to go back to sci-fi and was writing what became Star Wars. No one wanted to touch it. Eventually, Fox agreed and gave him a shoestring budget so that they wouldn't lose money on it if it flopped like THX-1138. He got $11mil (~$40mil in 2011) to do so. When he showed it to the Fox President the man literally bawled his eyes out (from joy) saying that it was the best movie he had ever seen. The stock of Fox doubled in two weeks from the release of one film. When it was shown in Japan the entire crowd remained completely silent after the film and just sat there. Fox executives feared that they hated it, but in fact silence is the highest amount of reverence that one can receive in Japan. It was beyond a massive hit.

Now, Star Wars was very much a standalone film--but thanks to his good buddy Coppola proving that sequels can be made, Fox let him produce a whole trilogy. The impact on Hollywood is unmistakeable. When James Cameron saw the film, he immediately quit his job as a truck driver and moved to LA. He would sneak into the USC library and rent the thesiseseses (prob not a word haha) and learned how to do special effects from basically stealing books of the kids on the front edge of the science.

So yeah, Star Wars and George Lucas basically changed everything. haha

...and that's not even counting that Lucasfilm created Pixar.
 

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Man that is soooo wizard.

I'm somewhat upset about the 2015 movie. Let the series die with some dignity. However, on the bright side, maybe Disney will release the original trilogy (not the sh*tty special edition) on bluray and make me happy.

The old ones are on Blu Ray
 

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Its funny, I was just reading about the whole Disney/Pixar/Lucasfilms history. From that standpoint, it doesn't seem all that shocking or earth-shattering.

There are only three good George Lucas movies (episodes IV-VI), and they've already been made. I don't see what the big deal is.
 

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I cringed a little when I first heard this, but then I remembered Episodes I - III...Disney at least knows how to end a movie and follow a plot. Plus their characters aren't crap. I think this could be a good thing. George lost his marbles awhile ago. The only downside is that I can see Disney continuing to use CGI backgrounds if the new movies are live action as oppose to the live scenes in the original trilogy. Those new movies with all blue screen gave them too much of an artificial feel.

This guy hits the nail on the head concerning Episodes I - III:

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The old ones are on Blu Ray

No they are not. The special edition is on bluray. A slightly less altered version is on bluray. But the unaltered original trilogy is only available on dvd. The films are in the BONUS FEATURES when you buy the special edition on dvd (**** you for that George). They also have no increase in picture quality from the degraded film. It was a lazy copy over of the laserdisk format.
 

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I cringed a little when I first heard this, but then I remembered Episodes I - III...Disney at least knows how to end a movie and follow a plot. Plus their characters aren't crap. I think this could be a good thing. George lost his marbles awhile ago. The only downside is that I can see Disney continuing to use CGI backgrounds if the new movies are live action as oppose to the live scenes in the original trilogy. Those new movies with all blue screen gave them too much of an artificial feel.

This guy hits the nail on the head concerning Episodes I - III:

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redlettermedia is awesome. Half in the bag is my ****.
 

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After the last 12 years... I don't know. I watched Jake Lloyd try to learn to act. I listened to Hayden Christensen say the "sand" speech. And I observed Darth Vader go from a badd*ss to comic relief. ("NOOOOOOO!!!!") ...I'm just not ready to put myself back out there.

**** Lucas for adding the "NOOOOOO!!!" to Episode VI later too. Why does he feel he has to screw with everything after it's been a certain way...it's like he learned nothing from the Han Shot First backlash.
 

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South Park nailed all of this with their remake of Raiders episode...

btw, CGI sucks balls... every time
 

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**** Lucas for adding the "NOOOOOO!!!" to Episode VI later too. Why does he feel he has to screw with everything after it's been a certain way...it's like he learned nothing from the Han Shot First backlash.

This is the most frustrating thing to me with Lucas. It's like he not only created this stuff by accident, but he also DOESN'T GET IT. Only someone who is completely oblivious to the feelings that the throne room scene is creating would look at the greatest subtle "mask-acting" moment ever put to film and think "I think the audience needs to hear him scream 'No' to get across his feelings." It's the same guy who told took a major character, chose the lines "you're breaking my heart", and then literally had her die of a broken heart. I laughed my *ss off in the theaters when this gem happened:

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this is a fanmade anime of star wars be awesome if the creator presents this to disney as they now own lucasfilm made by only one guy

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