Lennay Kekua, A Hoax!

zemaniak

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Good story.

Must avoid reading comments section.

ARGH... Too late







My god, comments should be outlawed.
 
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koonja

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Maybe they were pressuring the people who are fessing up right now, into fessing up.

People are such vultures!

Could be part of it, but it's also PR 101 to air your dirty laundry at a time when something else is there to absorb some of the attention.
 
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Did Manti not say that he spoke to Lennay's doctors and nurses? You're telling me that Tuiasisisopo recruited healthcare professionals to participate in the hoax? Uggh.. I hate this whole thing.

Do Doctors and Nurses have a special voice that I don't know about?

My father died of luekemia. I could call you on the phone and pretend to be a doctor right now. It doesn't take much more than wikipedia, acting skills to stay in character, and being batshit crazy to do such a thing.
 

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I am glad Te'o is getting cleared finally.

Cleared-ish. Fox News is reporting that he needs psychological help either way. Grantland is still raking him over the coals. The Deadspin authors are still on the media circuit talking about all the "holes" in the story. And in the court of public opinion, the haters seem to be winning the argument at the moment.

EDIT: Also, "Manti is gay" seems to be picking up steam.

Really guys?

Really?
 
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PraetorianND

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Do Doctors and Nurses have a special voice that I don't know about?

My father died of luekemia. I could call you on the phone and pretend to be a doctor right now. It doesn't take much more than wikipedia, acting skills to stay in character, and being batshit crazy to do such a thing.

YEP
 

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I wonder how this will effect ND long term. The media is going crazy over all this.

There won't be any long term affects. Te'o rather in the wrong or not was one football player. Since it is ND it is overblown right now. If this was say an NIU football player this wouldn't even be national story. It isn't some serious legal issue ala Penn State. Worse case scenario is that one football lied. Who the heck hasn't lied. BTW I have been suggesting all along folks hold off judgement. A week and half from now this form won't getting hardly any posts.
 

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Cleared-ish. Fox News is reporting that he needs psychological help either way. Grantland is still raking him over the coals. The Deadspin authors are still on the media circuit talking about all the "holes" in the story. And in the court of public opinion, the haters seem to be winning the argument at the moment.

EDIT: Also, "Manti is gay" seems to be picking up steam.

Really guys?

Really?

Haters see it slipping away and are (cat?)fishing for anything

Mob mentality is an ugly , ugly thing sometimes
 

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Do Doctors and Nurses have a special voice that I don't know about?

My father died of luekemia. I could call you on the phone and pretend to be a doctor right now. It doesn't take much more than wikipedia, acting skills to stay in character, and being batshit crazy to do such a thing.

And the best doctors talk to you like a normal person. A non-family friend of a patient is not going to epect a detailed breakdown given in medical jargon.
 

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Boo whoever deleted my rickroll post. This thread hasn't had anything of value to say since Swarbrick's press conference. Have a little humor.

Not sure if we should be too encouraged by this "friend" who talked to ESPN. We weren't too happy when "anonymous students" and "former teammates" were reported as credible sources, and this seems to be the same thing but on our side.
 
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PraetorianND

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Boo whoever deleted my rickroll post. This thread hasn't had anything of value to say since Swarbrick's press conference. Have a little humor.

Not sure if we should be too encouraged by this "friend" who talked to ESPN. We weren't too happy when "anonymous students" and "former teammates" were reported as credible sources, and this seems to be the same thing but on our side.

I didn't think it was funny. Especially because I'm at work so I shouldn't be looking at youtube videos anyway, and you post that crap....
 
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PraetorianND

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Your employer is bothered by YouTube but "Irish Envy" all day long is cool?

You should stop trolling. There is a reason your stupid post got deleted.

Also, no need for italics on your post. Your sarcasm is dripping through. Thanks.
 

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Not sure if we should be too encouraged by this "friend" who talked to ESPN. We weren't too happy when "anonymous students" and "former teammates" were reported as credible sources, and this seems to be the same thing but on our side.

Do you doubt that a former player said that? I don't. But I do think that the former player added nothing substantive to the story.

I'm pretty sure ESPN would check this one out.
 

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Do you doubt that a former player said that? I don't. But I do think that the former player added nothing substantive to the story.

I'm pretty sure ESPN would check this one out.

A former player may have said that, but why didn't he attach his name to it? Just because he said it doesn't mean it is true. This entire story should tell you that.
 

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Anyone doing any reporting on this is sure to check and double check any facts going forward.

On a side note concerning the several reports about teammates questioning wheher Lennay was real or not and the extra attention Manti was getting. If this is true, BK did a hell of a job keeping this team focused and on track. Not all of the players are going to like each other and some might be jealous where they could stir something up, but you never saw that all year.
 

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Also, ESPN is STILL reporting inaccurately that Teo and ND found out Dec. 6th. That's not true and needs to be corrected.
 
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Look.

Te'o was not immediately convinced that the voice on the sixth was his girlfriend. The waters of denial run deep. That plays in all of this.

Also, the more I hear, the more I think this thing is being looked at for substantial criminal charges. Think about it. One of the few things everybody agrees upon is that Manti's performance in the NC game was affected.

I don't think that anybody would construct anything this elaborate to gain a Heisman, or a point spread advantage; but someone would do it to obtain long term financial gain.

And if someone untoward found out about it in December, THEY might have used it for a point spread advantage. If that is the case you have big time Feds all over it, and you won't even know about it. (Quite before the storm.)
 

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Look.

Te'o was not immediately convinced that the voice on the sixth was his girlfriend. The waters of denial run deep. That plays in all of this.

Also, the more I hear, the more I think this thing is being looked at for substantial criminal charges. Think about it. One of the few things everybody agrees upon is that Manti's performance in the NC game was affected.

I don't think that anybody would construct anything this elaborate to gain a Heisman, or a point spread advantage; but someone would do it to obtain long term financial gain.

And if someone untoward found out about it in December, THEY might have used it for a point spread advantage. If that is the case you have big time Feds all over it, and you won't even know about it. (Quite before the storm.)

Ding, Ding, Ding!!! And this is why I will have my buddy hold on to those bet tickets from MGM. I might be able to hold out hope that I didn't flush that $250 down the throne.
 

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A former player may have said that, but why didn't he attach his name to it? Just because he said it doesn't mean it is true. This entire story should tell you that.

He didn't attach his name to it because he did not want to call out Manti puclically. Its a jerk move. But I don't believe ESPN would lie about the source, and the information he gave seemed plausible and did not alter the story significantly.

As far as the friend, they know who she is. She stuck her neck into the middle of this, and I'm sure they checked her out to make sure things match up. Is she telling the truth? I don't know, but its a pretty crazy move for someone with legitimate ties to the hozxer to call up a national media outlet if she's lying.
 

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So this guy and his cousins pulled an elaborate scam on Manti. Sucks for Manti. He looks very gullible and naive right now. I still dont understand why he didnt come forward before any one else had a chance to break this story.
 

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