I have some pretty serious upper back/scapula pain. I'm afraid of pain meds (addiction) so I just stick to ibuprofen, aleve, etc... Doesn't do crap for me anymore, So, I just dealt with it. i'm 'in' the strength industry So, some connections turned me on to it via Chris Bell, who is a huge supporter of it. So, I took it, plus rubbed some Ho wood on the painful area. It f'ing worked. I'm not into that stuff, well, I wasn't, but it worked when ' medicine' did not.
So, it helped me. I was a skeptic so its not the placebo affect.
I got some capsules so I didn't have to 'make' anything. Milkshakes, paste, etc seem to be the norm.
to add... I only took it for the pain, but I did notice a bump in my over all mood, now, could be because I didn't want to kill myself because my back was hurting, but, just a side note.