Johnny Football

[T Town Tommy]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Big CFL news: Johnny Manziel will be the starting QB this Friday for the <a href="https://twitter.com/MTLAlouettes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MTLAlouettes</a> against the <a href="https://twitter.com/Ticats?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Ticats</a>.</p>— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1024353817796726784?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 31, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Hope JFF can turn things around. He was electric when he was on point. Just hate seeing someone throw away their talent... even JFF.

 

[ACamp1900]

Hope JFF can turn things around. He was electric when he was on point. Just hate seeing someone throw away their talent... even JFF.

nah

 

[ACamp1900]

Heard he did well...............

 

[Greenore]

Heard he did well...............

He was spectacular... if you are a Hamilton fan! Cheers!

 

[Meatloaf]

 

[Calabrese's People]

Heard he did well...............

 

[GATTACA!]

To be fair to him he's had 2 weeks to learn the playbook.

Also one of the picks wasn't his fault.

Still yikes.

 

[ACamp1900]

To be fair to him he's had 2 weeks to learn the playbook.

Also one of the picks wasn't his fault.

Still yikes.

Still think he’s the answer huh?

 

[GATTACA!]

Still think he’s the answer huh?

Never say never......

 

[KPENN]

Has anyone else watched the Netflix show?

 

[Luckylucci]

No but I think i'm going to this weekend. Is it pretty good?

Is it a pretty even representation of him also being a POS outside of football?

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I watched it Tuesday. It could have been another hour longer, which leads me to believe that the Florida one could be closer to three hours if they really wanted to dig deep.

My personal takeaways from it:

1. He was a Chooch from day one. Small town Texas football star that went to TAMU and got too much too soon out of nowhere. It was a combination of major enabling and some mental health issues mixed with alcohol and college aged stupidity.
2. He made TAMU, Kevin Sumlin and Kliff Kingsbury millions of dollars. Some others were along for the ride too.
3. The Cleveland Browns were complete idiots for drafting him and Jerry Jones came close to being an idiot for doing it too. The story about his workout with Cleveland is absolutely stunning. They drafted him anyway.
4. Beating Alabama changed everything.
5. You get to hear from JF, Kingsbury, JF's family and his best friend, some TAMU media and his former agent. I'd have really liked to have heard from some other people outside of that circle.

I think the UF Gator episode is going to be far more flattering than it should based on the Jake Paul and Johnny Football episodes. We'll see what the Balco episode is like.

 

[ACamp1900]

I won’t watch anything with this douche nozzle,… fuck him. Darkest day in browns history, even worse than the move, was that draft. Fuck him. I don’t care how his story ends and I’m sure it’ll end poorly,… I felt that way before he went to my Browns and I especially feel that way now. Fuck. Him.

 

[NDBoiler]

I watched it Tuesday. It could have been another hour longer, which leads me to believe that the Florida one could be closer to three hours if they really wanted to dig deep.

My personal takeaways from it:

1. He was a Chooch from day one. Small town Texas football star that went to TAMU and got too much too soon out of nowhere. It was a combination of major enabling and some mental health issues mixed with alcohol and college aged stupidity.
2. He made TAMU, Kevin Sumlin and Kliff Kingsbury millions of dollars. Some others were along for the ride too.
3. The Cleveland Browns were complete idiots for drafting him and Jerry Jones came close to being an idiot for doing it too. The story about his workout with Cleveland is absolutely stunning. They drafted him anyway.
4. Beating Alabama changed everything.
5. You get to hear from JF, Kingsbury, JF's family and his best friend, some TAMU media and his former agent. I'd have really liked to have heard from some other people outside of that circle.

I think the UF Gator episode is going to be far more flattering than it should based on the Jake Paul and Johnny Football episodes. We'll see what the Balco episode is like.

What happened during his workout with Cleveland?

 

[Giddyup]

 

[Jimmy3Putt]

What happened during his workout with Cleveland?

Paraphrasing here, but I think he got all the receivers too drunk and high to participate in the workout so his agent had to run the routes.

 

[GATTACA!]

I won’t watch anything with this douche nozzle,… fuck him. Darkest day in browns history, even worse than the move, was that draft. Fuck him. I don’t care how his story ends and I’m sure it’ll end poorly,… I felt that way before he went to my Browns and I especially feel that way now. Fuck. Him.

Crazy he wasn’t even the worst Browns pick in that draft. That’s how bad out organization was.

 

[zelezo vlk]

I won’t watch anything with this douche nozzle,… fuck him. Darkest day in browns history, even worse than the move, was that draft. Fuck him. I don’t care how his story ends and I’m sure it’ll end poorly,… I felt that way before he went to my Browns and I especially feel that way now. Fuck. Him.

The darkest day in Browns history is drafting a bust instead of trading for the dude who had 20+ open cases of sexual harassment and assault? My man I think you’re a bit off here.


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[IrishLax]

I watched it Tuesday. It could have been another hour longer, which leads me to believe that the Florida one could be closer to three hours if they really wanted to dig deep.

My personal takeaways from it:

1. He was a Chooch from day one. Small town Texas football star that went to TAMU and got too much too soon out of nowhere. It was a combination of major enabling and some mental health issues mixed with alcohol and college aged stupidity.
2. He made TAMU, Kevin Sumlin and Kliff Kingsbury millions of dollars. Some others were along for the ride too.
3. The Cleveland Browns were complete idiots for drafting him and Jerry Jones came close to being an idiot for doing it too. The story about his workout with Cleveland is absolutely stunning. They drafted him anyway.
4. Beating Alabama changed everything.
5. You get to hear from JF, Kingsbury, JF's family and his best friend, some TAMU media and his former agent. I'd have really liked to have heard from some other people outside of that circle.

I think the UF Gator episode is going to be far more flattering than it should based on the Jake Paul and Johnny Football episodes. We'll see what the Balco episode is like.

The story of them snatching the draft card from Jerry's hand is still one of my favorites. I remember Cowboy fans being legitimately upset they passed on him too.

Anyone with two brain cells knew this guy was a fraud and a bust. He had ZERO arm talent. He had something like 5 1st round draft picks on offense playing with him and played in a stat padding offense. He is one of the most unlikable players of all time IMO... zero redeeming qualities.

 

[greyhammer90]

The darkest day in Browns history is drafting a bust instead of trading for the dude who had 20+ open cases of sexual harassment and assault? My man I think you’re a bit off here.

 

[SDIrishFan]

It was interesting how brazen they were with the autograph signing stuff and traveling all over the country. And he got suspended for a half for insufficient evidence. Went right back to doing it too. SMH NCAA.

Tho as others have stated, TA&M, coaches, lots of others were making millions upon millions off of him so I can’t blame him.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

What happened during his workout with Cleveland?

He was partying the night before. So were all the receivers he was going to throw to. The WR all got so wasted that none of them showed up.

So the Browns show up and ask "where are the receivers?"

Johnny says "We're good." He winds up throwing passes to his agent during the workout. The Browns went ahead and traded up to draft him anyway.

 

[AKRowdy]

It was interesting how brazen they were with the autograph signing stuff and traveling all over the country. And he got suspended for a half for insufficient evidence. Went right back to doing it too. SMH NCAA.

Tho as others have stated, TA&M, coaches, lots of others were making millions upon millions off of him so I can’t blame him.

So Reggie Bush gets his Heisman stripped for his stuff at USC, would they ever consider stripping Johnny his? I doubt it but interesting debate.

 

[dublinirish]

The story of them snatching the draft card from Jerry's hand is still one of my favorites. I remember Cowboy fans being legitimately upset they passed on him too.

Anyone with two brain cells knew this guy was a fraud and a bust. He had ZERO arm talent. He had something like 5 1st round draft picks on offense playing with him and played in a stat padding offense. He is one of the most unlikable players of all time IMO... zero redeeming qualities.

Cowboys fans booing their selection of a future hall of famer was so on brand


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[BleedBlueGold]

Dbag won the Heisman over Manti. I'll never get over that. That kid literally stands for nothing that is recognized by that award. I refuse to watch that documentary and will forever hate JF and the hysteria that surrounded and enabled him.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Dallas got Zack martin and Demarcus Lawrence in that draft with their first two picks. Let football people do football and let billionaires do billioning.

There were some ballers in that draft.

That Heisman ceremony had two guys sitting there who had Netflix Untold episodes done about them. May as well throw Collin Klein a bone for the trifecta.

 

[drayer54]

My wife is an Aggie grad and we have a Johnny autograph stashed in the basement. She really had a bad feeling about him after that episode. However, he clearly launched aggieland into $$$&.

That athletic complex is stunning down there.

 

[Irish#1]

Dbag won the Heisman over Manti. I'll never get over that. That kid literally stands for nothing that is recognized by that award. I refuse to watch that documentary and will forever hate JF and the hysteria that surrounded and enabled him.

Yep, the part in the description that says something about sportsmanship and living as an example (paraphrasing) should have immediately disqualified him. It wasn’t long after he won that they removed that part from the statement.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I'd stopped giving a shit about the Heisman by that point. I was also far enough into adulthood to have known that Manti wasn't going to win, so I had no angst or disappointment over it then and I still don't really care today.

And Collin Klein didn't want to be OC here a few months ago, so he can go scratch too.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

With this being said, they're going to ass lick Lord Florida, Tim Tebow and Aaron Hernandez in that episode. I have no doubt in my mind now.

Again, they could have done another hour on Johnny Manziel easily.