Jim Rome is the worst

[IrishJayhawk]

Never said they were harder. Having kids play both I can speak from a voice of experience. The band practices might not have been qiite the same physical toll as football, bit the bands two a days were three hours long each with a indoor "section practice" mixed in between. My son dropped 20lbs every summer. But if you want to compare who has harder practices, neither compare to wrestling.

I wrestled for 10 years as well. I have to agree that it's physically harder than anything else I've ever done.

 

[Irish Insanity]

Jim Rome is the person I dislike most in all of sports media.

 

[phgreek]

I wrestled for 10 years as well. I have to agree that it's physically harder than anything else I've ever done.

...gets my vote. I remember the wrestling coach would let his guys come down and scrimmage with we basketball guys when I was a sophomore for their "wind" portion of practice. Then they'd go back up and do more peg work, or some other crazy stuff...

Then I passed on hoops my junior year to work on football, so I thought I'd work out with the wrestlers...oh my puke my guts out...thats not real. Want terrorists to talk...send them to central PA to any high school wrestling practice...paid huge dividends for me...but not without suffering....

 

[pumpdog20]

Never said they were harder. Having kids play both I can speak from a voice of experience. The band practices might not have been qiite the same physical toll as football, bit the bands two a days were three hours long each with a indoor "section practice" mixed in between. My son dropped 20lbs every summer. But if you want to compare who has harder practices, neither compare to wrestling.

I wrestled for 10 years as well. I have to agree that it's physically harder than anything else I've ever done.

...gets my vote. I remember the wrestling coach would let his guys come down and scrimmage with we basketball guys when I was a sophomore for their "wind" portion of practice. Then they'd go back up and do more peg work, or some other crazy stuff...

Then I passed on hoops my junior year to work on football, so I thought I'd work out with the wrestlers...oh my puke my guts out...thats not real. Want terrorists to talk...send them to central PA to any high school wrestling practice...paid huge dividends for me...but not without suffering....

"Once you've wrestled, everything else in life is easy." Dan Gable

 

[Andy in Sactown]

I know that there are a fair amount of us veterans in here. I think that anyone who spent hours and hours and hours (and hours, and hours, ad infinitum) on the parade ground, until the last person finally learned how to march properly, can probably appreciate the precision and hard work that goes into something like this:

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Eh, I thought it was pretty easy. But I took to marching faster than most. The hard part was not walking in step with my mom at the grocery store after I got home on leave; fell right into it.

 

[kmoose]

Eh, I thought it was pretty easy. But I took to marching faster than most. The hard part was not walking in step with my mom at the grocery store after I got home on leave; fell right into it.

I found it pretty easy, too. But I didn't get to skip the hours and hours and hours it took for everyone else to get it. I still had to spend all of those hours baking in the sun on what was basically an asphalt parking lot.

 

[NDohio]

All I know is that after away football games, I was on the back of the bus with the drill team captain ...

 

[IrishinTN]

My son is lead trumpet and band president. He is also a self-confessed "band geek" and doesn't really care what people say about him. He loves it. He's also a second degree black belt so if anyone really wants to give him a go, he will gladly engage.

 

[Irish#1]

I wrestled for 10 years as well. I have to agree that it's physically harder than anything else I've ever done.

...gets my vote. I remember the wrestling coach would let his guys come down and scrimmage with we basketball guys when I was a sophomore for their "wind" portion of practice. Then they'd go back up and do more peg work, or some other crazy stuff...

Then I passed on hoops my junior year to work on football, so I thought I'd work out with the wrestlers...oh my puke my guts out...thats not real. Want terrorists to talk...send them to central PA to any high school wrestling practice...paid huge dividends for me...but not without suffering....

"Once you've wrestled, everything else in life is easy." Dan Gable

My sons wrestling coach had a drill called the 9 circles of hell. The last thing to do before practice was over was the 9 circles drill. He had 9 routines, one for each circle. You had to do each routine for one minute then move to the next circle with no rest in between. Each routine was designed to tax something different on your body. When the 9th minute was over, everyone would just drop in place and remain comatose until they could muster the strength to sit up. I saw many out classed kids stay off their backs and win matches in the third period because of stamina.

Back on topic, all the best to the band nerds. They have my admiration.

 

[dshans]

My son is lead trumpet and band president. He is also a self-confessed "band geek" and doesn't really care what people say about him. He loves it. He's also a second degree black belt so if anyone really wants to give him a go, he will gladly engage.

The good son. My guy played alto sax from 4th grade through college. He's also a good example of the correlation between music and math.

In high school he was in the marching, concert and show bands. I encouraged him to play in the jazz band, but it didn't take. My love of Big Band (etc.) and The Grateful Dead just weren't his cup o' tea.

I think he was simply embarrassed by his old man. Not at all uncommon.

I remember going to one of the bands' practices when he was a sophomore. At the end of four hours the band director had all of the parents stand with their children and attempt a simple march. His mother did fairly well – she played clarinet in her high school marching band.

Me? I only fell once ...

This was not the lock-step I grew up with going to Catholic schools changing classrooms or heading to lunch.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Response by a University of Texas football player (former band member).

Ex-Texas football player, band member's open letter to Jim Rome | NCAA Football | Sporting News

Dear Mr. Rome,

If you attack one, you attack all. By making comments that offended people who participate in marching band, you chose to disrespect so many more. You took aim at musicians of all kinds across the world who have dedicated their lives to this wonderful form of expression and art. You denounced the work of music educators and teachers alike who work tirelessly in their effort to inspire, motivate and take students to a level that not even they thought was possible. You criticized parents across the world for encouraging their children to do something they love and enjoy. And most importantly, you fired away at the individual performers themselves by calling them dorks, uncool, and indirectly naming their work meaningless. You became nothing more than a common bully.

I participated in both football and band at the University of Texas and will agree that there are huge differences regarding the two. For one, it doesn’t feel like you got hit by an 18-wheeler after band practice and football doesn’t punish you for forgetting your instrument. But outside the obvious, the two are rather similar. In the end, both football and band comprise individuals who come together as a family to produce and work toward a common goal. The types of individuals that make each group may be significantly different, but just because one may seem less popular gives no one a right to call them dorks.

For me, there are two parts to an apology. The first is acknowledging that a mistake was made and you regret it happening. But the more important half of an apology is learning from the mistake so it doesn’t happen again. Mr. Rome, I highly suggest you demonstrate the second half of your apology. Take some time out of your day to visit a high school, college or DCI (Drum Corps International) marching band just to learn what goes on behind the scenes and I promise you will gain a great amount of appreciation for what these individuals do.

Lest we forget that marching band, along with so many other groups, (cheerleaders, fans, etc.) create the pageantry that is college sports. I urge you, Mr. Rome, not to let this be a situation that you bury under the rug. Learn from it and use it to create a platform that motivates students to do what they love and pursue what gives them happiness. Bullying has no place in today’s society and I hope you use this experience to promote the acceptance of any and every activity, no matter what others think.

 

[Irish#1]

Response by a University of Texas football player (former band member).

Ex-Texas football player, band member's open letter to Jim Rome | NCAA Football | Sporting News

I couldn't have written that half as well as he did.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

I couldn't have written that half as well as he did.

Lots of smart musicians at UT-Austin.

 

[tadman95]

Our local high school is pretty small and with budget cuts over the last few years can no longer afford to provide for a band. Before that the band raised a lot of its own money.

Now we didn't have a great band to start with, but there is a certain lost feeling at the ball games now with the band experience not included. The lack of background music and drum corp pounding away is missed, even if it wasn't that great. It was just part of the atmosphere, part of the community.

 

[phgreek]

Our local high school is pretty small and with budget cuts over the last few years can no longer afford to provide for a band. Before that the band raised a lot of its own money.

Now we didn't have a great band to start with, but there is a certain lost feeling at the ball games now with the band experience not included. The lack of background music and drum corp pounding away is missed, even if it wasn't that great. It was just part of the atmosphere, part of the community.

Its crazy but I recall the sound of the band, and the smells of concessions as much as great plays when I was a little kid watching our High School Games...and I recall the first night I ran on the field as a player, I flashed back to the little kid, and I heard the band and smelled the concessions...to me it was part of the moment...It was part of the confirmation I guess...

I'd miss it immediately if I went t a game and there wasn't a band....even a bad one. And bad food, and even worse coffee...

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Our local high school is pretty small and with budget cuts over the last few years can no longer afford to provide for a band. Before that the band raised a lot of its own money.

Now we didn't have a great band to start with, but there is a certain lost feeling at the ball games now with the band experience not included. The lack of background music and drum corp pounding away is missed, even if it wasn't that great. It was just part of the atmosphere, part of the community.

All too common. Music should be part of any well rounded education.

 

[Irish#1]

Our local high school is pretty small and with budget cuts over the last few years can no longer afford to provide for a band. Before that the band raised a lot of its own money.

Now we didn't have a great band to start with, but there is a certain lost feeling at the ball games now with the band experience not included. The lack of background music and drum corp pounding away is missed, even if it wasn't that great. It was just part of the atmosphere, part of the community.

Sadly, an all too a common occurrence everywhere.

 

[IrishinTN]

There was one thing our team learned last year its that the only groups that truly supports them to the last whistle are the cheerleaders and the band. Not even their own parents hang out to the end of blowouts, if they show up at all. Last year they started a tradition of standing in front of the band at the end of the game and singing the alma mater with the cheerleaders. The band didn't have money to get to two away games each of the past two years, and the football boosters paid to get them there. It is a new level of respect between the groups I have been happy to see grow.

 

[ulukinatme]

I didn't know where else to put this, but I thought it was fitting. Saw this post on Twitter and Chris...err...Jim Everett has like 100 replies in it I dunno, some of the responses are funny.

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/Super70sSports/status/1453035713642090499[/TWEET]

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/Jim_Everett/status/1453075219518615552[/TWEET]

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/Jim_Everett/status/1453072157198540801[/TWEET]

[EDIT] Guess I could have put it in a Jim Harbro thread.

 

[Irish#1]

That's some serious QB talent.

 

[NDRock]

That's some serious QB talent.

Is that Steve Young in the upper left? Only one I’m not sure about.

 

[Irishnuke]

That's some serious QB talent.

And also Jim Harbaugh

 

[Rockin’Irish]

Is that Steve Young in the upper left? Only one I’m not sure about.

Yessir, sure is!

 

[Irishize]

Super 70s Sports is a must follow on Twitter. Hilarious!

 

[GowerND11]

Is that Steve Young in the upper left? Only one I’m not sure about.

Not sure about it being him, or not sure he'd succeed?

 

[ulukinatme]

Super 70s Sports is a must follow on Twitter. Hilarious!

I'm seeing the truth here.

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/Super70sSports/status/1453517960199512069[/TWEET]

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/Super70sSports/status/1453502227168047107[/TWEET]

 

[GowerND11]

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/Super70sSports/status/1453506940592693249?s=20[/TWEET]

Those ISU helmets are AWESOME