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Current Fanduel Point Totals for each team.

As close to a pick-em as you could get.

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Hate to say it, but I feel it now:

In 2012, when A&M slaughtered Oklahoma in their bowl game, I knew we were in bigger trouble than originally thought.

In 2024, when Michigan embarrassed Alabama, I get the same feeling, but for Georgia.

You can say bowl games are irrelevant, there is no transitive theory, etc. but Bama hung 41 on Georgia, and by all accounts was pedestrian this season.


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Crazy Balki said:
USC has a MUCH better passing game than Georgia.

Stockton isn't Jayden Maiava. That dude makes some critical errors, but he has an absolutely impeccable arm when it comes to throwing the deep ball.

USC may have been average, but their receiving corp was STACKED. You have Makai Lemon, Ja'Kobi Lane, Duce Robinson, Zachariah Branch. They had so many legitimate receiving targets, it's hard to keep count. Georgia's receiving corp is nowhere near that. They've honestly been very average this year. Not very fast, had quite a few drops, don't run the best routes. The gap between the two groups is VAST.

I didn't think switching from Moss to Maiava would've made much of a difference, but it did. He took the passing game to the next level. Made them far more lethal from long distance.
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Georgia and USC are not that different statistically in terms of passing offense. Obviously the big unknown is the new QB, but the USC WRs do not have MUCH better stats

Plus Georgia has played a gauntlet of a schedule compared to USC
 
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china423 said:
Sugar Bowl Parade live. ND band is on now
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There was one area that I expected Georgia to beat us, and that was cheerleader talent. I'm shocked, they have not been recruiting well. Don't get me wrong, they've got some lookers, but top to bottom we're looking better.
 
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ACamp1900 said:
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Crazy Balki

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DillonHall said:
Georgia and USC are not that different statistically in terms of passing offense. Obviously the big unknown is the new QB, but the USC WRs do not have MUCH better stats

Plus Georgia has played a gauntlet of a schedule compared to USC
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I think the key difference is that when USC transitioned from Moss to Maiava, it drastically changed how the passing game went. Maiava and Carson Beck are actually pretty similar, as both are very feast or famine in terms of QB play. Both make great plays in the passing game, but both also make critical errors. We don't know if Stockton can replicate the "feast" part that Beck or Maiava provided, and if the SECCG was any indication, it's not looking likely.

And in terms of sheer talent, nobody on Georgia is on Ja'Kobi Lane or Makai Lemon's level. Arian Smith is the closest, but outside of Alabama, his best games are against the worst teams on Georgia's schedule, such as UMass and 2-10 Mississippi State.

And I question the term "gauntlet" being used to define Georgia's schedule.

Yeah, Texas is a tough out. No question about it. But who are the next best teams they played?

Ole Miss? They're 9-3, lost to an awful Kentucky team at home, and Georgia got blown out by them 28-10.

Alabama? They just got beat by Michigan and finished 9-4 with losses to 6-6 Oklahoma and Vandy. Georgia also lost to them. Made Milroe look like Steve Young out there, when Michigan made him look like my neighbor Steve (good squash player from what I've heard tho).

Tennessee? Pretty good squad, but at 10-3 and they just got absolutely railroaded by Ohio State. Also Nico shouldn't have even played in that game.

Clemson? Drunkenly stumbling into the CFP by winning a very soft ACC isn't exactly anything to write home about, especially seeing the ACC's performances in the playoff and bowl games. Louisville destroyed them in Death Valley, and they also lost to South Carolina.

Georgia Tech? 7-6 and needed patented refball to escape with a win, while ND dominated them.

USC played Notre Dame (12-1), Penn State (12-2), LSU (9-4), Michigan (8-5) and A&M (8-5). All of those teams, sans LSU, had some of the best defenses in CFB.

Compared to Georgia with Texas x2 (12-2), Tennessee (10-3), Clemson (10-4), Ole Miss (9-3), Alabama (9-4).

I don't want to devalue Georgia's road. It was certainly tough, especially having to go on the road three times against ranked teams. But I wouldn't consider it leaps and bounds ahead of what USC went up against. The reality is that Ole Miss, Alabama, Tennessee and Clemson weren't really as good as their record indicated, and 3/4 showed it in their playoff/bowl games.
 
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Yeah I wouldn't understimate Georgia's schedule, but at this point it doesn't really matter. We and they are very similar teams. They may have more recruited/on-paper talent, we may have better coaching. It's gonna be a dogfight, but I'll take the team with the veteran QB over the team with the QB making his first start.
 
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stlnd01 said:
Yeah I wouldn't understimate Georgia's schedule, but at this point it doesn't really matter. We and they are very similar teams. They may have more recruited/on-paper talent, we may have better coaching. It's gonna be a dogfight, but I'll take the team with the veteran QB over the team with the QB making his first start.
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I agree, I think ND will find a way to get it done. I just find it dumb to discount Georgia's playmakers when they were top 15 in passing yards per game against a really tough schedule
 
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If you break it down by position group, this is how ND stacks up:

ND is better: secondary, LBs, OL, QB, RB, and WR. WR is debatable but GA leads the nation in drops.

GA has the edge: DL and special teams.

Am I missing anything?
 
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indianamouse said:
Really tough schedule according to who? Bowl season has shown so far maybe the BIG10 is tougher than the SEC is.
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#3 on Sagarin, #1 on ESPN. Probably top 10 everywhere else but I didn't look

Any reasonable person would take bowl games results with a grain of salt. Motivation varies so much. I guess it's good for bowl game sponsors that some people still watch them. I don't plan to watch any postseason games except for the Playoffs
 
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