Is it time for a change?

[NDBoiler]

I'm torn because Golson is amazing one minute and then extremely frustrating the next. But how many 4 or 5 turnover games do you let a QB have before you give someone else a shot? I'm interested to see what everyone thinks.

 

[no.1IrishFan]

Sleep it off, bruddah.

 

[ACamp1900]

We have no clue what we have with the back ups,... Since we haven't been able to put anyone away early... Pretty much end debate right there imo...

 

[NDBoiler]

Sleep it off, bruddah.

I know man, but damn, how close would these games even be if just half of these turnovers were eliminated? We're all hyped on expectations for next year, but should we be if this trend is going to continue?

 

[IrishJayhawk]

We're 7-2 with losses to two top 10 teams. In one, we lost on a controversial last play. In the other, we were within 3 points before imploding with 4 minutes left (and then Graham ran the score up after we decided not to call a TO...don't get me started there). In those two games, we've scored 27 and 31 points.

There are issues, certainly. But we always knew that we were a year away from a big season. The trajectory remains up...

 

[ickythump1225]

To answer the question in the OP, no. We're just going to have to live with Golson I mean he is 17-3 as a starter after all. I know he had some bad moments all of picks were weird. Two batted balls, one pick where he got hit from behind and then that last one where C-Rob bobbled the ball. That was a string of horrid luck. I mean horrible, terrible luck.

 

[NDBoiler]

To answer the question in the OP, no. We're just going to have to live with Golson I mean he is 17-3 as a starter after all. I know he had some bad moments all of picks were weird. Two batted balls, one pick where he got hit from behind and then that last one where C-Rob bobbled the ball. That was a string of horrid luck. I mean horrible, terrible luck.

I agree that there was some bad luck there, but Golson continues to struggle with recognizing blitzes, seeing open receivers and generally making bad decisions at very bad times. I guess we'll have to just take the good with the bad, but I'm going to be old and gray pretty quick at this pace!

 

[KD in CT]

Is it time for a change?

Now that they are out of it, maybe it is time to find out what's on the bench, at least for a game or two.

The problem is EG is regressing. There'll be no 'big year' in 2015 with 3+ turnovers a game from the QB, which is now the norm and can't be ignored any longer.


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[dad4aa]

I wouldn't change anything this year. Would be nice to see us blow out Northwestern so Zaire can play most of the second half. If there is a change, and I'm not saying there should be, it should come in the spring. Zaire will have plenty of time under Kelly's system and should be able to handle the full playbook. I believe Kelly will play the QB that gives us the best chance to win. I also believe, whoever he picks, he will be more willing to pull him next year in these types of situations like he did with Golson in 2012 when needed.

 

[Irishnuke]

Don't know the answer. Golson can look great some series and look like total shit on others. The turnovers are a huge concern. They have to be killing his confidence. He looked scared to death several times today. Not saying he should be pulled, but how many more times does he do this and keep his job?

 

[TheChosen1]

16-3 as a starter. Bench him.

 

[GoldenDome]

To answer the question in the OP, no. We're just going to have to live with Golson I mean he is 17-3 as a starter after all. I know he had some bad moments all of picks were weird. Two batted balls, one pick where he got hit from behind and then that last one where C-Rob bobbled the ball. That was a string of horrid luck. I mean horrible, terrible luck.

It was not bad luck. The two batted balls were Golson being lazy with his footwork and rushing the throws. The one was supposed to be a three step drop but got lazy, rushed it and threw it on two steps. Of course playcalling and Kelly abandoning the run so quick has a lot to do with it as well as the team not being able to pick up inside stunts and blitzes.

But what I am most disappointed in Golson is his lack of leadership. I have never seen him coach up his young receivers or fire up the defense to get a stop. Has he ever fully taken control of the offense because it seems like he is the chauffeur to Kelly driving it? Just my take though. Would love to see Golson light a fire. His body language is puzzling. He has the lost dog Dayne Crist look when things go wrong.

 

[Irish YJ]

one word...
nope

 

[drayer54]

I'm torn because Golson is amazing one minute and then extremely frustrating the next. But how many 4 or 5 turnover games do you let a QB have before you give someone else a shot? I'm interested to see what everyone thinks.

 

[irishff1014]

Of course not. This team need to learn how to play football with out errors and it will be fine. Until they do that we will struggle to stay in the top 10.

With the defense i think the are playing like they should in the first year. They played really good against some bad teams and some of us raised the bar that was to high and never going to happen.

 

[EddytoNow]

We will not win a National Championship with Golson as our quarterback. He is just too inconsistent for us to go 12-0 or even 11-1 and make the play-offs. However, he is exciting to watch and with the current recruiting and team makle-up we can probably win 9 or 10 games this year and duplicate that next year.

So the real question is "Are we statisfied with 9 or 10 wins per season after so many seasons of 6 to 8 wins?"

Perhaps, Malik could take us to the next level. However, I have to wonder if we can keep Malik after this season. If I were the back-up quarterback and the starter was still in the game and starting after consistently turning the ball over 3 to 5 times per game, I would be looking elsewhere. He's got to be wondering if he will ever play barring a Golson injury. Kelly seems content to stick with Golson through the good and the bad, and there has been a lot of bad in the past few games.

 

[NDBoiler]

Don't know the answer. Golson can look great some series and look like total shit on others. The turnovers are a huge concern. They have to be killing his confidence. He looked scared to death several times today. Not saying he should be pulled, but how many more times does he do this and keep his job?

My thoughts exactly.

 

[ulukinatme]

The consistency is an issue, no doubt, we can't be so up and down. It makes me a little sick to see people give Golson a pass, despite his inconsistencies, when Tommy was dogged last year. We should be more consistent as fans.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Is it time for a change?

The GOLSON SCALE:

Great Golson=blowout win

Good Golson=comfortable win

Average Golson=close win

Bad Golson=nailbiter win

Garbage Golson=nailbiter loss

Toilet Bowl Golson= close loss






Nuclear Holocaust Golson=today


*Ill take my chances with him every week

 

[T Town Tommy]

The most popular player on most teams in the backup QB. But there is a reason they are the backup and not the starter. Golson gives ND the best chance to win. It's not time for Zaire... it's time for Golson to step it up.

 

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Lol he didnt pull rees last year after season was toast to give at that time this years starter zaire playing time. Hes not gonna do it this year when golsons coming back.

 

[TheChosen1]

Why i think this thread is dumb. Lax can you and your boys over at IrishTP work up the numbers on Everett in the first quarter? He is awful.

 

[ulukinatme]

Lol he didnt pull rees last year after season was toast to give at that time this years starter zaire playing time. Hes not gonna do it this year when golsons coming back.

I'd argue that Golson's backup this year is much better than what Tommy had behind him last year.

 

[phillyirish]

Golson's a gamer. 4 turnovers and battled the team back to be within 3 before the last deflection-killer pick. it sucks. A big problem today, in addition to the unrelenting pressure, was his lack of height being exposed with all the deflections at the line that led to floater picks.

 

[ulukinatme]

Golson's a gamer. 4 turnovers and battled the team back to be within 3 before the last deflection-killer pick. it sucks. A big problem today, in addition to the unrelenting pressure, was his lack of height being exposed with all the deflections at the line that led to floater picks.

AT 6'0"-6'1", you can't expect your QB to be much taller. An inch or two wouldn't have prevented the deflections. Our OL needs to either chop block the guys on the ends, or Golson needs more loft on the throw if they're not going to do that.

 

[irish4ever]

I know man, but damn, how close would these games even be if just half of these turnovers were eliminated? We're all hyped on expectations for next year, but should we be if this trend is going to continue?

Half his turnovers appear so stupid .... It's frustrating as hell! He has to have grip of a girl as many times he gets it knocked out of his hands. Damn!!!

 

[ulukinatme]

Half his turnovers appear so stupid .... It's frustrating as hell! He has to have grip of a girl as many times he gets it knocked out of his hands. Damn!!!

It has less to do with the grip on the ball, and more to do with the way he carries it. He doesn't carry the ball close to his body when he's scrambling, it's usually out and flailing about. He will tuck it if he thinks he's going to get hit, but the problem is he will inevitably get hit when he's not prepared for it.

 

[SaltyND24]

The only questionable throw that resulted in an interception was the beginning of the 3rd quarter, and even then, Golson is getting hit from the blindside as he's releasing the ball. The two the were tipped can be put on him and the line. On those quick hitters, they need to cut the d-line. Think of it this way, when he's really on, we win and when he is playing poorly, we are still very much in the ballgame towards the end.

 

[pumpdog20]

I'm just mad that he hasn't fixed the the fumbling issue. Other than that, he's the man.

 

[kmoose]

Is it time for a change?

Yes, it is time for a change........ but not at QB. It's time for a Cool Change:

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