Understood...
The thing is, for people having families and picking fucking fruit or some other menial task...THEY CANNOT BE A NET POSITIVE... It costs more than the taxes on a fucking fruit pickers wages to educate his/her kids...not to mention myriad of medical and other services they receive but pay a pittance toward. So now we pay for them and the people whom we owe a duty to (citizens) who might do those jobs...JFC this discussion is infuriating. It cost me a thousand bucks per kid to go to PUBLIC school because of this shit. WTF is wrong with some of you people?
Is there a need for migrant workers...sure...its dumb to think the people who need jobs all live around massive farms, but the operative word is MIGRANT for fuck sakes...means go home, have your kids at home, educate your kids at home, and if you like it here, get in line to become a citizen...and if you develop a specialized skill that helps this nation, you might get to become a citizen sooner....if you are fleeing danger to your person, you might get to stay while you work to become a citizen. It is as good as it gets, so it is criminal to circumvent the system both literally and figuratively.
Just want to punch someone...swear to god!
There's nothing wrong in expressing an opinion on a message board. This issue has many aspects that individuals may view differently than another poster.
As with so much stagnation on issues, I blame this Congress, who acts like a little child who wants their way or no compromise instead, assigning an opposing side their last name as a touchstone for anger. "Gang of Eight" "Hillary" "Obama". Well, the establishment Republicans got that anger thrown in their faces.
We have a real need for immigration reform and have for decades. But maybe legislators are very similar to your "WTF is wrong with you people." As I posted, Georgia, Alabama and others lost a cumulative billion in crop losses with the strict immigration laws some people want. California Valley farmers want real immigration reform. We get 50% of our food grown there. Construction owners lose fifty percent of their applicants when they announce that they will do background checks or ask for SS ids, but love the labor.
I, too, am frustrated at the use of our institutions and the subsequent costs to us. Vote 'em all out that can't come up with laws on immigration, tax reform, inversions, military spending, infectious diseases, food from other countries etc. etc. But I can't vote in those states whose legislators who are obstructionists or hyperbolists.
We do have illegals setting up drug rings and gangs, health care that does not act like Mexico where you pay up front or else, parents who don't take their kids for immunizations or health care for fear of deportation, drivers licenses given without real identification, a subculture that does not have any interest in assimilation or reporting criminal activity to police.
Without immigration reform we have the status quo, which unacceptable for illegal immigration, an inflamed populace that wants to blame each other and is suffering, and simplified solutions.
I'll post another link which you can read - or not - about securing the border.
U.S. border officer: "Do you think a wall is gonna stop them?" 
