Illuminati taking over the world

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Jay Hayes is Iluminati:

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When I taught Philosophy last year I had otherwise bright students bringing the "Illuminati" into everything... I mean everything, they were responsible for every horrible and great event in world history really...

and that's all I have to say about that.
 
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The worst way to make a point is to reference a Kesha video. Had to stop watching after the tenth time they showed a clip of hers.
 

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Thanks for sharing. I love stuff like that. There are a few conspiracies I believe, but the Illuminati isn't one of them.
 

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Maybe they are associated with this fellow named sasquash(sp)?
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Sasquash attacking a child...
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His humanoid, vertebrate brother, Sasquatch...
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On this subject, I do not believe there is an exclusive club by this name that holds the key to everything in the world. I have a family member who believes there are Illuminati on every block. There is no way a club could remain secret with that many members.

However...I find it intriguing that a small group of people hold a very high percentage of the world's wealth. I submit this article for you review...
Who Runs The World? Solid Proof That A Core Group Of Wealthy Elitists Is Pulling The Strings

So I do believe that that few in number can use their power to influence world events in their favor. The gold price and banking manipulation that was recently uncovered proves that.
 

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There are no coincidences.

This. Like minded people with a lot of influence and interests, will always work to promote and protect their interests. The more influence and interest to protect the more you feel you should be able to dictate and the more insidious your efforts become. To deny that this is happening is not consistent with history and experience and IMO not rational. The problem is that the desire to control, subjugate, manipulate and accumulate is dirty business and totally corrupting.
 

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It's funny to me that all of this Illuminati sh*t started after a freaking best selling fiction novel brought the term to mainstream. Come on people. Where the f*ck was all of this Illuminati talk before the Angels and Demons?

There is no doubt that conglomerates run by a sparse few people with control over vasts amount of the world's capital have an insane amount of reach, power, and influence over almost every aspect of our lives. But there is no secret official "world order" or it NEVER would've been able to stay secret... and they sure as hell wouldn't be out dropping hints of their existence in music/pop culture if they did exist as their revelation would be something they would want to avoid. Finally, the historical "Illuminati" specific aspect is more or less just some typical pop culture garbage that has built on itself to become trendy. Like Beanie Babies.
 

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Hypothetical: If the Illuminati, New World Order stuff was real, who do ppl think would be the leader?
 

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It's funny to me that all of this Illuminati sh*t started after a freaking best selling fiction novel brought the term to mainstream. Come on people. Where the f*ck was all of this Illuminati talk before the Angels and Demons?

There is no doubt that conglomerates run by a sparse few people with control over vasts amount of the world's capital have an insane amount of reach, power, and influence over almost every aspect of our lives. But there is no secret official "world order" or it NEVER would've been able to stay secret... and they sure as hell wouldn't be out dropping hints of their existence in music/pop culture if they did exist as their revelation would be something they would want to avoid. Finally, the historical "Illuminati" specific aspect is more or less just some typical pop culture garbage that has built on itself to become trendy. Like Beanie Babies.

Agree to an extent, and disagree to another. Let me preface what I'm about to say with "If there is Illuminati"

The part I would contend is this idea that The Illuminati would want to stay shrouded in secrecy. Sure actual members would not want to be revealed, but continuing to promote this idea that they are an all powerful, all knowing organization running the world magnifies their capabilities to an even larger extent. As a benefit, it makes some people paranoid, and paranoid people are easier to use because nobody takes them seriously. Who knows, they may not even be that powerful in reality, but common perception is far more powerful than reality.
 

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Honey Boo Boo

She's only a 7th level magic user according to AboveTopSecret.com, so I would put my money on someone more distinguished in the organization, like Pauly Shore.

*If you guys ever wanna waste some time reading the most cracked out theories from the darkest bowels of the internet, go to that site. It will blow your mind.
 

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Agree to an extent, and disagree to another. Let me preface what I'm about to say with "If there is Illuminati"

The part I would contend is this idea that The Illuminati would want to stay shrouded in secrecy. Sure actual members would not want to be revealed, but continuing to promote this idea that they are an all powerful, all knowing organization running the world magnifies their capabilities to an even larger extent. As a benefit, it makes some people paranoid, and paranoid people are easier to use because nobody takes them seriously. Who knows, they may not even be that powerful in reality, but common perception is far more powerful than reality.

This is basically the 9/11 conspiracy episode of South Park ending. The idea is tried and true... and parallels everything from Wizard of Oz to Game of Thrones in that by simply seeming all-powerful you gain power you wouldn't otherwise have. So on the surface, I agree with you completely... if you didn't have power the best way to get power would be to seem like you do have power so people defer to you.

The flaw is that no matter what way you try to slice stuff in the modern day world, it doesn't work out that way. To my original, if you actually had a "World Order" of some sort that was all powerful and could control literally everything, you'd want to keep that a secret or you'd eventually have a revolution on your hands. To your scenario, if an "Illuminati" existed that had sparse power but wanted to seem more powerful than they were, they simply wouldn't be going after young & low IQ Youtubers and Twitterites in a subliminal pop culture campaign. That would do them zero good. They also wouldn't steal banal buzzwords from a Dan Brown novel/movie for branding. These people are irrelevant sheep and irrelevant to the end game of "control" or "power". What they would do in your scenario is direct "mysterious" power plays with people who control natural resources, liquid capital, political power, etc. where they represent having more strength than they do in order to get a desired outcome.
 

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This is basically the 9/11 conspiracy episode of South Park ending. The idea is tried and true... and parallels everything from Wizard of Oz to Game of Thrones in that by simply seeming all-powerful you gain power you wouldn't otherwise have. So on the surface, I agree with you completely... if you didn't have power the best way to get power would be to seem like you do have power so people defer to you.

The flaw is that no matter what way you try to slice stuff in the modern day world, it doesn't work out that way. To my original, if you actually had a "World Order" of some sort that was all powerful and could control literally everything, you'd want to keep that a secret or you'd eventually have a revolution on your hands. To your scenario, if an "Illuminati" existed that had sparse power but wanted to seem more powerful than they were, they simply wouldn't be going after young & low IQ Youtubers and Twitterites in a subliminal pop culture campaign. That would do them zero good. They also wouldn't steal banal buzzwords from a Dan Brown novel/movie for branding. These people are irrelevant sheep and irrelevant to the end game of "control" or "power". What they would do in your scenario is direct "mysterious" power plays with people who control natural resources, liquid capital, political power, etc. where they represent having more strength than they do in order to get a desired outcome.

So funny you brought up that SP episode, I almost mentioned it.
 

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Not much of a tin foil hat guy... but I do like Meltzer's show on H2
 

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Don't forget Beyonce!

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The whole N!$$as in Paris video is filled with Illuminati symbols, too.

There are tons of conspiracies about Beyonce with not just the Illuminati, but also with the devil or a demon, and her alter ego is Sasha Fierce that possesses her. I remember watching a youtube video on it that was about 15 minutes long.

Obama is probably somewhere in the Illuminati, too. Him and Jay-Z text all the time.

Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Mark Zuckerburg, Rupert Murdoch(control the news), and one of the Saudi Arabian Princes are definitely in the Illuminati as well.
 
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