IE Best Classic Rock Band Period Final 5!

[Cackalacky]

On the Beatles... they have about ten or so songs I love, all timers, but their early stuff is too bubblegum and I can't think of one album on theirs that I can stand listening to all the way through... too high of a ration of 'wtf is this!?' songs... I've always felt that while they belong in discussion, theyre overrated... I appreciate them more for their trailblazing than for their actual music/songs in retrospect.


Also, I hate Pink Floyd... prob the single biggest musical mystery to me... beyond Comfortably Numb I can't stand anything they've ever put out... just me.

I hate the stones and Pink Floyd is my favorite band. We cant be friends anymore.

 

[Cackalacky]

I mean, in incredibly shallow terms yes.

Not trying to be shallow but it is legit what they all did and it is the genres defining characteristic. The Beatles to the Stones, Yardbirds, Cream.... all based on AfroAmerican blues.

 

[TDHeysus]

.. Hey Hey What Can I Do, What Is and Should Never Be, Tangerine, Gallows Pole, Nobody's Fault but Mine... each are fantastic and not even regularly mentioned w their greatest songs...

Great songs. Bring It On Home, The Ocean, When the Levee Breaks, In the Evening, and Out On the Tiles are some of my favorite "tier 2" Zeppelin songs.

just to piggy-back a few more....

Nobody's Fault but Mine, For your life, The Wanton Song, Livin' Lovin' Maid, Misty Mountain Hop....I could literally rattle off another 10 songs

How Many more Times, Since I've been Loving You, In the Light, In My Time of Dying, The Rover, Over the Hills and Far Away, Houses of the Holy(song), Ten Years Gone.......

EDIT: I guess I repeated Nobody's Fault...Its ok, I like it

 

[Fbolt]

On the Beatles... their early stuff is too bubblegum

and that was the reason I cast my ballot for the Beatles. they have songs that cover more ground than Zep.

 

[TDHeysus]

and that was the reason I cast my ballot for the Beatles. they have songs that cover more ground than Zep.

I have to respectively disagree; in no way do I want to take anything away from the true greatness of the Beatles, but Zep has rock, heavy rock, blues, jazzy, pop, progressive, and folk-music styles in their catalog. They have 3min songs, 10min songs and everything in between. As far as being musically diverse, I cannot think of another band that has such as a wide range of musical styles than Zep.

 

[ACamp1900]

The last two posts are why the Stones are the only answer here.... come on guys....

 

[ACamp1900]

I hate the stones and Pink Floyd is my favorite band. We cant be friends anymore.

Choke on yer grits and die.

 

[ACamp1900]

Easy test on who has done mind bending drugs and isn't quite right up stairs anymore:

Do you like Pink Floyd?

 

[Cackalacky]

Easy test on who has done mind bending drugs and isn't quite right up stairs anymore:

Do you like Pink Floyd?

 

[Guest]

Rose-colored glasses would be more like denying the nicking. We're talking about orders of magnitude less than Vanilla Ice here. And it's for deep album cuts, mostly.

From an artistic viewpoint I couldn't care less. The producing in today's music is far worse.

It's one of music's best fake outrages.

I don't think the outrage is completely fake. But I do think imitation is flattery and bands from all genre's do it to imitate. However many artists are mad at the level of recognition Zep got from the stuff they took. Part of that is jealously of how great they were which also magnifies the issue in their case, but some of it is justified. It is what it is. Cheers.

 

[fightingirish26]

Easy test on who has done mind bending drugs and isn't quite right up stairs anymore:

Do you like Pink Floyd?

 

[Rocket89]

I have to respectively disagree; in no way do I want to take anything away from the true greatness of the Beatles, but Zep has rock, heavy rock, blues, jazzy, pop, progressive, and folk-music styles in their catalog. They have 3min songs, 10min songs and everything in between. As far as being musically diverse, I cannot think of another band that has such as a wide range of musical styles than Zep.

Disagree rather strongly.

Skiffle Everly Brothers style ("Love Me Do")
Black Girl Group ("Please Mr. Postman")
Country-Soul ("Anna, Go To Him")
Goffin/King Standard ("Chains")
Tamla Sound ("Money")
Spanish Ballad ("And I Love Her")
Rockabilly ("Honey Don't")
Motown ("You Really Got a Hold on Me")
Country ("Act Naturally")
Dylan-Country ("I'm A Loser")
Acoustical Ballad ("Yesterday")
Folk-Country ("I've Just Seen A Face")
Riff Rock ("Day Tripper")
Folk ("Norwegian Wood")
Orchestral Arrangement ("Eleanor Rigby")
Children's Tune ("Yellow Submarine")
Psychedelic ("Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds")
Psychedelic Rock ("Rain")
Music Hall ("Honey Pie")
Avant-Garde ("Number 9")
Indian Music ("The Inner Light")
Blues Rock ("Come Together")
Gospel ("Let It Be")

This is in addition to dozens of early rock, standard rock, and the Christmas songs the Beatles wrote or covered. I don't even know what box one would put, "Yes It Is", "Michelle", "For No One", "Penny Lane", "Being For The Benefit Of Mr. Kite", "You Know My Name", "Piggies", and many more incredibly original songs.

No one is really in the Beatles neighborhood in diversity.

Jimmy Page may stand alone among the biggest bands for his abilities on electric and acoustic guitar, which along with John Paul Jones' keyboards, gave Zeppelin their diverse sound. But, among their contemporaries the Who are arguably more diverse. IMO, Zeppelin's lack of ballads, softer music, and harmonies really hurt their case as the most diverse ever.

 

[wizards8507]

I have to respectively disagree; in no way do I want to take anything away from the true greatness of the Beatles, but Zep has rock, heavy rock, blues, jazzy, pop, progressive, and folk-music styles in their catalog. They have 3min songs, 10min songs and everything in between. As far as being musically diverse, I cannot think of another band that has such as a wide range of musical styles than Zep.

A Day In the Life
Helter Skelter
In My Life
Revolution 9
Yesterday
Twist and Shout
Eleanor Rigby
Tomorrow Never Knows
All My Loving

You don't get much more musically diverse than that.

 

[Rocket89]

Easy test on who has done mind bending drugs and isn't quite right up stairs anymore:

Do you like Pink Floyd?

 

[ulukinatme]

I honestly don't think I could name a single Led Zeppelin song if my life depended on it.

I mean, seriously. They had a grand total of ZERO number one songs and only five or six that cracked the top 40. The Beatles had the top five songs at ONE TIME. I don't understand why everyone here has an infatuation with very talented musicians... who made shitty songs. How can a band be the greatest of all time without a single #1? Sad!

This goes back to my previous argument. If this was a poll about the Greatest Rock Band, or Band with Most #1 Hits, Beatles probably win. This is Best Classic Rock Band though, and Led Zeppelin get waaaay more play than the Beatles in that format. Again, yes, it's based on a radio format, but like it or not radio defined Classic Rock.

While I'm sad Aerosmith didn't make it to the end, I'm totally cool with Led Zeppelin winning this contest. They are deserving and a great example of the musical sound. Wiz, I'd be willing to bet you know at least a few Led Zeppelin songs without realizing it. While Zeppelin is notoriously picky about having their songs in movies, Kashmir was in Fast Times at Ridgemont High, and I think a cover of it was in the '98 Godzilla movie:

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When the Levee Breaks was just in Argo, figured I'd use that one since it was a recent film:
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I'd be shocked if you've never heard Stairway to Heaven
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This was always one of my favorites, and surprisingly not in the movie with the same title (Pretty good soundtrack though)
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[greyhammer90]

This was always one of my favorites, and surprisingly not in the movie with the same title (Pretty good soundtrack though)
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I think if you compare Zeppelin's albums with other top-tier classic rock bands, there's something left to be desired. If we're talking studio versions, I take Beatles/Stones over them. But that's not really a fair comparison, because Led Zeppelin is probably the greatest jam band of all time, and that doesn't show on their studio albums. Dazed and Confused is a great example. That's a really excellent radio song. But it's hard to say that it lives up to the hype. But what does live up to the hype are the 1/2 hour jam masterpieces Led Zeppelin was able to get out of the framework their radio songs set up. Like this beauty, which might be my favorite piece of classic rock ever:

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[Rocket89]

Zeppelin albums >>>> Stones albums all day.

 

[ulukinatme]

I think if you compare Zeppelin's albums with other top-tier classic rock bands, there's something left to be desired. If we're talking studio versions, I take Beatles/Stones over them. But that's not really a fair comparison, because Led Zeppelin is probably the greatest jam band of all time, and that doesn't show on their studio albums. Dazed and Confused is a great example. That's a really excellent radio song. But it's hard to say that it lives up to the hype. But what does live up to the hype are the 1/2 hour jam masterpieces Led Zeppelin was able to get out of the framework their radio songs set up. Like this beauty, which might be my favorite piece of classic rock ever:

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At 25 minutes it was a bit long for me, but I enjoyed most of it immensely, never heard that version before. I really do love live stuff and improvisation. Some bands are just so damn good live, that's the way they're meant to be heard. That's Classic Rock.

You know who didn't do live concerts during their Classic Rock phase?....The Beatles (Other than that lone rooftop deal at Apple in '69, if you can count that).

 

[Cackalacky]

Well... in the end this whole voting was a farce because the greatest Classic rock band ever wasnt even nominated.....

I think we can all get behind their greatness when they receive such blatantly ignorant reviews like this:

"Rock'NRoll Creation"
'This pretentious ponderous collection of religious rock psalms is enough to prompt the question, "What day did the Lord create Spinal Tap, and couldn't he have rested on that day too?"'

"Intravenus deMilo"
'This tasteless cover is a good indication of the lack of musical invention within. The musical growth of this band cannot even be charted. They are treading water in a sea of retarded sexuality and bad poetry.'

'The review for "Shark Sandwich" was merely a two word review which simply read "Shit Sandwich".'

 

[wizards8507]

This goes back to my previous argument. If this was a poll about the Greatest Rock Band, or Band with Most #1 Hits, Beatles probably win. This is Best Classic Rock Band though, and Led Zeppelin get waaaay more play than the Beatles in that format. Again, yes, it's based on a radio format, but like it or not radio defined Classic Rock.

That's factually inaccurate.

 

[Cackalacky]

That's factually inaccurate.

Classic rock is a radio format. It is not a musical genre as in musical theory it has zero differences from other rock genres.

 

[wizards8507]

Classic rock is a radio format. It is not a musical genre as in musical theory it has zero differences from other rock genres.

I don't dispute that. I'm saying it's factually inaccurate that Led Zeppelin gets more play than The Beatles.

I've seen the sources that would indicate they do but those sources are inaccurate. They exclude both satellite and Internet radio. They exclude blocks like "Breakfast with the Beatles," during which classic rock stations play nothing but The Beatles for multi-hour segments.

 

[Jackalope1977]

I hate the stones and Pink Floyd is my favorite band. We cant be friends anymore.

Seconded. Floyd then Zep for me. The other 3 aren't even close.

 

[Cackalacky]

I don't dispute that. I'm saying it's factually inaccurate that Led Zeppelin gets more play than The Beatles.

I've seen the sources that would indicate they do but those sources are inaccurate. They exclude both satellite and Internet radio. They exclude blocks like "Breakfast with the Beatles," during which classic rock stations play nothing but The Beatles for multi-hour segments.

Ok. I thought i might have misunderstood which point you were disagreeing with. I can see that if you expand the plays to media outside of radio stations though i have not seen any data on that fact.

 

[Rocket89]

At 25 minutes it was a bit long for me, but I enjoyed most of it immensely, never heard that version before. I really do love live stuff and improvisation. Some bands are just so damn good live, that's the way they're meant to be heard. That's Classic Rock.

You know who didn't do live concerts during their Classic Rock phase?....The Beatles (Other than that lone rooftop deal at Apple in '69, if you can count that).

Should've restricted voting to just live songs played on classic rock radio.

This is classic rock.

 

[ulukinatme]

I don't dispute that. I'm saying it's factually inaccurate that Led Zeppelin gets more play than The Beatles.

I've seen the sources that would indicate they do but those sources are inaccurate. They exclude both satellite and Internet radio. They exclude blocks like "Breakfast with the Beatles," during which classic rock stations play nothing but The Beatles for multi-hour segments.

Breakfast With the Beatles doesn't count. Oldies stations also play it, and you'll never hear "Can't Buy Me Love" or "Ticket to Ride" on a Classic Rock Station during their normal setlist. Classic Rock stations play Breakfast With the Beatles to fill a time slot and avoid having to have a DJ in the booth on Sunday morning. It's similar to Little Steven's Underground Garage, which is also played on a lot of FM Classic Rock stations late on weekends. Steven Van Zandt plays Garage Rock on that program, but that doesn't mean it's Classic Rock just because it's played on a Classic Rock station. While Garage Rock can occasionally overlap with Classic Rock at times, it typically sounds very different and doesn't mesh well. As an example, Garage Rock can cover anything Rock from the 1950s to present day. Classic Rock is generally considered based on a group of artists with a sound from the late 60s to a variable period in the 80s. So, while Breakfast With the Beatles may be played on Classic Rock stations, it doesn't mean all the material in that 3 hour block is considered Classic Rock.

 

[Irish#1]

I honestly don't think I could name a single Led Zeppelin song if my life depended on it.

I mean, seriously. They had a grand total of ZERO number one songs and only five or six that cracked the top 40. The Beatles had the top five songs at ONE TIME. I don't understand why everyone here has an infatuation with very talented musicians... who made shitty songs. How can a band be the greatest of all time without a single #1? Sad!

 

[woolybug25]

The format of this voting is turrible.

Lost interest after the first round.

Wiz knows music like he knows fashion.

 

[Irish#1]

Also, I hate Pink Floyd... prob the single biggest musical mystery to me...

Me as well.

After decades of sitting on top of Rock n Roll these guys are looking at these poll results like:

Now if we're voting for the ugliest band of all time, the Stones are runaway winners.

Opinions on the Beatles vary a lot due to age. I was in the 7th grade when they came ashore. I can listen to any of their albums at any time. Bubblegum music they are not and never will be. Are they more pop than rock and roll? By today's standards yes, but back then no, they were rock and roll. LZ was considered more heavy metal back then, but by today's standards and the evolution of music, LZ is more Rock than HM.

 

[wizards8507]

Breakfast With the Beatles doesn't count. Oldies stations also play it, and you'll never hear "Can't Buy Me Love" or "Ticket to Ride" on a Classic Rock Station during their normal setlist. Classic Rock stations play Breakfast With the Beatles to fill a time slot and avoid having to have a DJ in the booth on Sunday morning. It's similar to Little Steven's Underground Garage, which is also played on a lot of FM Classic Rock stations late on weekends. Steven Van Zandt plays Garage Rock on that program, but that doesn't mean it's Classic Rock just because it's played on a Classic Rock station. While Garage Rock can occasionally overlap with Classic Rock at times, it typically sounds very different and doesn't mesh well. As an example, Garage Rock can cover anything Rock from the 1950s to present day. Classic Rock is generally considered based on a group of artists with a sound from the late 60s to a variable period in the 80s. So, while Breakfast With the Beatles may be played on Classic Rock stations, it doesn't mean all the material in that 3 hour block is considered Classic Rock.

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