Higher Education

[NDdomer2]

NCF - TCU's marijuana problem is just one of many among elite college programs - ESPN The Magazine - ESPN

NCF - Oregon Ducks don't deny the drug culture in Eugene - ESPN The Magazine - ESPN

 

[greyhammer90]

why don't they just legalize it and get it over with? The threat of being arrested isn't stopping anyone, especially college kids.

 

[mgriff]

Thank goodness the government makes this decision for me! That demon weed is the devil's work. Beer me up so I can completely change my personality and possibly die!

 

[Buster Bluth]

why don't they just legalize it and get it over with? The threat of being arrested isn't stopping anyone, especially college kids.

THIS.

People who think marijuana should be illegal are one, or more, of the following:

police
drug dealers
ignorant parents
ignorant social conservatives
morons
uninformed on marijuana facts

 

[Buster Bluth]

The Union

This is a must watch for everyone.

 

[gkIrish]

THIS.

People who think marijuana should be illegal are one, or more, of the following:

police
drug dealers
ignorant parents
ignorant social conservatives
morons
uninformed on marijuana facts

The everyday policeman doesn't want it to be illegal. But I know you are talking about it from a "business" perspective

 

[Irish Houstonian]

I don't think somone having a different policy preference than you necessarily makes them "ignorant".

 

[RDU Irish]

Legalize it and tax the **** out of it. Lower the drinking age to 18 while you are at it. Old enough to die for our country should be old enough to drink legally.

 

[Buster Bluth]

The everyday policeman doesn't want it to be illegal. But I know you are talking about it from a "business" perspective

Well I should be more specific.

The policemen who actually have real crime to fight don't want it to be illegal.

The DEA, and the federal task forces love it. It's essentially their livelihood. I would say the majority of suburban cops who like to fill their county's coffers love it being illegal too.

We could, you know, legalize and save tens of billions of dollars that we spend fighting it, and then tax it and make even more billions (although I would argue that taxes on marijuana would be pretty ineffective since it's not a processed good like cigarettes and alcohol (great song btw hah))....

 

[RDU Irish]

Economically speaking, the drug war it is borderline retarded. We criminalize a health issue and then spend incredible resources on convicting and jailing people that are really only hurting themselves.

I think it is bizarre that the middle and upper class end up in rehab for their prescription addictions and the poor end up in jail for non-pharmacuetical drug use that is often less dangerous or destructive.

 

[Buster Bluth]

Legalize it and tax the **** out of it. Lower the drinking age to 18 while you are at it. Old enough to die for our country should be old enough to drink legally.

You can't really tax it very much, at a certain point people will just grow it themselves.

You can make cigarettes artificially expensive because they need to be processed. Have you ever tried making a cigarette? I certainly haven't, but I know it's an arduous task.

Taxes marijuana would be like taxing tomatoes. Too expensive? **** it I'll just grow it myself and sell it underground.

 

[Buster Bluth]

I think it is bizarre that the middle and upper class end up in rehab for their prescription addictions and the poor end up in jail for non-pharmacuetical drug use that is often less dangerous or destructive.

I wouldn't even say "often." haha

Show me some instances where marijuana killed someone. I think prescription drugs kill ~30,000 annually.

 

[GEORGIA DOMER]

"They hate me cause they aint me."- Busta??????

 

[ryno 24]

I know that the college basketball players at my school smoke weed. Its a completely different culture for these kids

 

[RDU Irish]

Still collect more than $0 and create an open marketplace for producers as well as consumers. Of course the real economic benefit is the cost savings of opening up half of our prisons.

I would open it up to pretty much all drugs. I don't see the need for government to say what you can and cannot do to your own body. Now at the point you neglect your kids or hurt someone else, bring down the hammer.

 

[RDU Irish]

I wouldn't even say "often." haha

Show me some instances where marijuana killed someone. I think prescription drugs kill ~30,000 annually.

I meant to draw in other drugs like cocaine. Mary Jane is pretty damn harmless but you can compare the effects of cocaine to all kinds of prescriptions that get abused regularly. But hey, at least the doctor and the pharmacy get a good cut of the profits.

 

[ClausentoTate]

It may not be a "problem", but drugs do exist at ND... or at least they did a couple years ago. Even in the dorms. It's college, kids are going to experiment. Yes, even football players. Then again at ND it's mostly just some pot and I've never met an ND student seriously selling more than just to their friends. I'll stop there.

As for marijuana, tax the crap out of it and make it illegal to grow without a license, and make those super expensive. Hard drug use (crack, meth, etc) should go down when regular people don't have to associate with drug dealers to get something as harmless as marijuana. I had a friend that went into a month-long coma because some stuff he bought was laced with PCP... it happens more often than you think. That would never happen if it was a controlled substance.

The drug war isn't borderline, it IS retarded. The "expert" they hired to say how much should be illegal wasn't educated on the subject and admitted to that fact later. They spend a very large amount of money attacking a drug that has never killed one person from an overdose and can be used therapeutically. If pot didn't mellow you out and made you more aggressive like drinking did, it would've ended like the prohibition ended instead of enduring for so long. Jailing people for nonviolent crimes that literally hurt no one isn't ethical in my opinion and is wasting so much taxpayer money that it's actually really upsetting... just my opinion.

 

[mgriff]

It's called the Prison Industrial Complex, and if you think our prisons are not private and for profit, think again. The DEA and law enforcement, the judicial system, and private prisons are a racket to make money. It's disgusting how rotten you find the United States to be once you get beneath the skin of freedom and democracy.

 

[Buster Bluth]

 

[irishff1014]

Well I should be more specific.

The policemen who actually have real crime to fight don't want it to be illegal.

The DEA, and the federal task forces love it. It's essentially their livelihood. I would say the majority of suburban cops who like to fill their county's coffers love it being illegal too.

We could, you know, legalize and save tens of billions of dollars that we spend fighting it, and then tax it and make even more billions (although I would argue that taxes on marijuana would be pretty ineffective since it's not a processed good like cigarettes and alcohol (great song btw hah))....

Sonunds like to me some one has a hard on police. Idk about your area but where i am located we have 2 of the most traveled drug roads in the country. US 13 and US 50. oMost of your drug task force team us weed only to get to the bigger stuff. Weed is like drinking and driving you get nothing for it .

 

[jimmymac]

In comparison to other colleges, ND has a significantly lower drug presence. By significantly lower, I mean SIGNIFICANTLY lower. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen, but hard drugs are extremely rare here.

Having said that, I'm not as pro-legalizing marijuana as most people that I know. I understand the financial gains that would be made and the fact that Mary J really shouldn't be even put in the same category of other drugs, but legalizing it scares me. High driving rates would obviously increase exponentially. The problem we have in this country with drunk driving would go up by a lot... I'm torn because we don't know what will happen of it was legalized. Just offering a different opinion...

 

[Buster Bluth]

Sonunds like to me some one has a hard on police. Idk about your area but where i am located we have 2 of the most traveled drug roads in the country. US 13 and US 50. oMost of your drug task force team us weed only to get to the bigger stuff. Weed is like drinking and driving you get nothing for it .

I'm not really sure what you're saying there.. Are you high?

In 1965 there were two marijuana arrests every hour. Today there are ~100.

The enforcement of state and local marijuana laws annually costs US taxpayers an estimated $7.6 billion, approximately $10,400 per arrest. Of this total, annual police costs are $3.7 billion, judicial/legal costs are $853 million, and correctional costs are $3.1 billion.

It's a big deal; 750,000 people are arrested annually because of something that doesn't hurt people more than numerous legal substances.

I'm torn because we don't know what will happen of it was legalized. Just offering a different opinion...

"Josh, in a free society you don't need a good reason to make something legal, you need a good reason to make it illegal." - Donna Moss (The West Wing)

 

[Grahambo]

I know what Buster does in his spare time.

 

[FLDomer]

I know what Buster does in his spare time.

He corrects grammar?

 

[DSully1995]

THIS.

People who think marijuana should be illegal are one, or more, of the following:

police
drug dealers
ignorant parents
ignorant social conservatives
morons
uninformed on marijuana facts

Id have to add to that list pharmaceutical lobbyists, imagine the thought legalizing a pain killer that can grow easily, ANYWHERE. Itd be a disaster for the big drug companies.

 

[irishff1014]

I'm not really sure what you're saying there.. Are you high?

In 1965 there were two marijuana arrests every hour. Today there are ~100.



It's a big deal; 750,000 people are arrested annually because of something that doesn't hurt people more than numerous legal substances.



"Josh, in a free society you don't need a good reason to make something legal, you need a good reason to make it illegal." - Donna Moss (The West Wing)

So know you are are bitching because police are doing ther job?

 

[mgriff]

So know you are are bitching because police are doing ther job?

No, he's saying how asinine it is to criminalize something that adults should have the option to choose. Weed has caused 0 deaths, you can't overdose from it. Alcohol and tobacco are legal and kill hundreds of thousands a year. He's pointing out how such a harmless product has turned into one of the biggest cash cows for law enforcement, the judicial and private prison systems. In short, it's illegal so the Big Pharma and the Prison Industrial Complex can continue to profit.

 

[Buster Bluth]

I know what Buster does in his spare time.

No I have a job that tests. My family owns a road construction company, so if I want to work there over the summer to make some coin, I can't do that.

For the record, I've probably smoked ~8x in my life. It makes getting drunk a waste of time, honestly. Nothing is better than a bowl or two, some mac & cheese, and an album from a great band. Then you wake up the next day feeling inexplicably happy--like you just had sex Halle Berry or something--and are in a great mood for the next day.

So know you are are bitching because police are doing ther job?

That's the best you can do? An unjust law is no law at all.

 

[AvesEvo]

If you've ever woken up with a bad hangover, you have lied to yourself by promising that you will never drink again; with marijuana, you no longer have to make that empty promise. Wake and bake the morning after a heavy night of drinking and your hangover will be gone in a matter of minutes.

In other words, if you're anti-marijuana, you are pro-lies.

 

[mgriff]

Exactly, the dangers of alcohol are apparent after one night of drinking. Your body is so dehydrated you feel like a bag of ***. With pot, you sleep like a baby and wake up feeling pretty normal the next day. And to think is all started because of the lumber industry and racism...