Golson in the future?

[KPENN]

As a fan of both Notre Dame and IU... I wouldnt mind seeing Kiel transfer to IU and lift that program up a little bit. Of course, him transferring means Golson has solidified the starting position and will be a solid starter for 4 years.

You better hope wooly doesn't see this.

 

[In Lou I Trust]

Some of the ish y'all post here is unbelievably moronic!! Everyone knows that if Kiel transfers he's going to Iowa...

 

[Irish YJ]

Some of the ish y'all post here is unbelievably moronic!! Everyone knows that if Kiel transfers he's going to Iowa...

Damn, I heard Ball State

 

[NDdomer2]

http://www.trbimg.com/img-508cba3e/turbine/sbt-photos-notre-dame-vs-oklahoma-20121027-027/400/16x9

Two more years?

I'll bring this thread back to the OP. I think he needs to bring the ball a little closer to his body. The Heisman statue isn't about to fumble.

 

[gkautz10]

Your right but that is flat out ridiculous, If Golson is the QB all year and BK doesn't open that job up next year, Kiel will transfer back to IU. You don't recruit the number one QB in the nation and sit him for three years to start one. Nor do you come to a school as a top recruit to be a backup....

See Dayne Crist.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

If Golson put on 30 in offseason we would have the next Cam Newton ... no italics.

They have 3 things in common: quarterback, good aggressive runners, and black. Besides that they aren't alike at all. Horrible comparison. Do you know how tall Newton is and how short Golson is? Newton loves the deep ball and the big play while Golson is much more of a game manager. Honestly if we are making outrageous predictions on Golson he'd be the next Drew Brees or Troy Smith.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Why not 3 more years? With how Golson has progressed and with the record I don't see why Golson would be benched. He knows the offense better now and is playing smarter and most importantly he can play in tough environments on the road. I know nothing about Gunner other than 1 game I saw which happened to be semistate where Cathedral crushed him. I love how people become obsessed with recruits and they haven't seen them play. At this point in time, there is no reason to think for a second that Golson will be a backup at Notre Dame ever again.

 

[WakeUpEchoes]

They have 3 things in common: quarterback, good aggressive runners, and black. Besides that they aren't alike at all. Horrible comparison. Do you know how tall Newton is and how short Golson is? Newton loves the deep ball and the big play while Golson is much more of a game manager. Honestly if we are making outrageous predictions on Golson he'd be the next Drew Brees or Troy Smith.

Lol, I think I wrote no italics to actually sound more sarcastic. I really don't want to try and make a direct comparison to EG and another NFL qb at this point.

I think Golson COULD BE a "game manager." As of now, I hope he continues to get better at going through his 1-2-3 progressions, take care of the football, and get better at communicating to the O-line. Next time I will actually put it in italics.

 

[ErieIrish13]

Just curious, why cant Everett become a good nfl player if he progresses how he should the next couple years? Just saying Drew Brees is 6 feet tall

 

[IrishinSyria]

If Golson put on 30 in offseason we would have the next Cam Newton ... no italics.

If Golson puts on 30 we'd have a fat QB

 

[JughedJones]

"If I follow recruiting at all".... b!tch please....


Nobody on here followed Kiel more than me on here. Nobody.

I laughed.. and laughed..

 

[dublinirish]

If Golson puts on 30 we'd have a fat QB

he would be byron leftwich.

Just back to Hendrix changing positions, i cant remember seeing him but did some people say he has been on Special Teams kick coverage units this year? I think theres a role for him as some sort of H-Back type player on the Offense. Hes too good of an athlete just have him sit for so long.

 

[BGIF]

"If I follow recruiting at all".... b!tch please....


Nobody on here followed Kiel more than me on here. Nobody.

Who ya' kiddin'?

You were obsessed with Maty Mauk from Day 1. Nobody had more Mauk posts than you.

Band wagon revisionists.

 

[mrmiller8]

"If I follow recruiting at all".... b!tch please....


Nobody on here followed Kiel more than me on here. Nobody.

If your so genius about recruiting then tell me why it wouldn't make sense for him transfer...We will lose a guy out of this end of story and it looks like right now it would be Kiel. With his wishy washy recruitment, how committed is he to notre dame? Just saying man... You can follow recruiting all you want but what happens when a recruit like kiel is gonna sit for four years with a chance to play one, come on bro, nobody wants to do that....He prolly should have stuck to LSU anyway.

 

[KieltoNeal]

I would hate to see Kiel transfer and have a perfectly good username go to waste...

 

[JughedJones]

If your so genius about recruiting then tell me why it wouldn't make sense for him transfer...We will lose a guy out of this end of story and it looks like right now it would be Kiel. With his wishy washy recruitment, how committed is he to notre dame? Just saying man... You can follow recruiting all you want but what happens when a recruit like kiel is gonna sit for four years with a chance to play one, come on bro, nobody wants to do that....He prolly should have stuck to LSU anyway.

 

[PANDFAN]

funny

funny

As Travis notes, Les Miles may have had problems with Kiel's "chest," but odds are that pales in comparison to the problems with current Tiger QB Zach Mettenberger's arm:stickoutt

 

[Chris P. Bacon]

Your right but that is flat out ridiculous, If Golson is the QB all year and BK doesn't open that job up next year, Kiel will transfer back to IU. You don't recruit the number one QB in the nation and sit him for three years to start one. Nor do you come to a school as a top recruit to be a backup....

I'm not sure any coach or team would ever just lock a player as a starter. If Teo didn't practice well during the offseason or prepare like he does, and just flat out stunk it up, even Teo would probably be benched this year. Having Gunner breathing down Golson's neck next year is only going to make both of them better, as well as Zaire. Having the #1 QB recruit doesn't solidify a starting job, you still gotta work on it. Whoever shows the ability to help the team win the most will get the starting job. Kelly's philosophy, next man in, and that doesn't just go for players that get injured. Who ever is performing at the highest level at a position will get the starting nod, there are no favorites when preparing your team to win a NC. This is a business for Kelly and he's not just going to put a guy in because he likes him, or because he was a top recruit coming out of HS. I guarentee if Kiel puts the work in, can read the defense and make the right reads better than Golson can, he's gonna get the starting job, even if Golson takes us to a NC and we go 13-0. You still have to put the work in the offseason and prove you should be the starter.

 

[NDTH91]

IF he struggles...

In what was ND's biggest game of the year (and away from home) he learned to throw the ball away and run out of bounds, which were the reasons why he was taken out of earlier games. Don't doubt that he will struggle again just not to the point where Kelly pulls him.

But I agree if struggles badly then Kelly makes the switch.

You could say the same thing about the Michigan St. game. Then michigan week came around...

Golson likes playing on the road, and has played better on the road all year. I'll quote him from the game in Ireland once again where they asked if he was nervous about playing on such a big stage, and he responded with something along the lines of "why would I be nervous? I don't know any of these people in the crowd." insinuating that if there were people he knew in the crowd (i.e. a home game) that he might be a little nervous.

I'm not sold on him playing well on a big stage at home yet.*

*Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Everett, and definitely want to see him as the starter and to continue having huge success (obviously).

 

[Bluto]

Your right but that is flat out ridiculous, If Golson is the QB all year and BK doesn't open that job up next year, Kiel will transfer back to IU. You don't recruit the number one QB in the nation and sit him for three years to start one. Nor do you come to a school as a top recruit to be a backup....

Didn't all kinds of top flight guys at every position do that at USC when Carroll was coaching?

 

[woolybug25]

If your so genius about recruiting then tell me why it wouldn't make sense for him transfer...We will lose a guy out of this end of story and it looks like right now it would be Kiel. With his wishy washy recruitment, how committed is he to notre dame? Just saying man... You can follow recruiting all you want but what happens when a recruit like kiel is gonna sit for four years with a chance to play one, come on bro, nobody wants to do that....He prolly should have stuck to LSU anyway.

I'll indulge you, despite your awkward tone.

Good teams typically have several highly ranked QB's on their roster. Look at USC under Carroll. These guys know that they are an injury/bad game/blowout away from getting to show themselves. GREAT QB's relish competition. It's in their DNA to want to win and compete at the highest level. Someone mentioned John David Booty. If you look at the scenario he had coming into USC, nobody thought he would ever see the field... but guess what.... he did. We have a championship level team right now, so guys are going to want to compete to be the leader of it. Gunner has a great opportunity and he isn't the type of kid (or comes from the type of family) that will tuck his tail between his legs or cry about not playing as a freaking freshman.

You nor I can predict what will happen. Did anybody predict that Crist would poop the bed and that Rees would be a starter for Notre Dame? No... no one did. The position of QB is one of the wildest and most bizarre positions on the field and it is impossible to predict. What I can predict though, is that Gunner is a competitor. Gunner loves Notre Dame and especially after the passing of his uncle Blair, wants to succeed here. His goal isn't to succeed as a college QB, it's to succeed at Notre Dame.

It's easy for someone like you to not get what it means to compete at the highest level. It is easy for you to make broad generalizations about the thought process of an 18 year old kid. But the reality is that you don't know the first d@mn thing about what Gunner is thinking. So your baseless, pointless rhetoric of why you think he will transfer does nothing but put negative karma out there for one of our young men playing for Irish.

 

[aubeirish]

If there is any coach that has an history of loosing starting QB during the season it's Kelly. Having a lot of good QB on the roster is very good problem, and one we haven't had in a long time. Golson should be the starter for the next few years. There is no doubt he is a player with all the tools in this offense. His growth is looking really good at this point. I am hoping he can continue in this direction.

 

[mrmiller8]

I'll indulge you, despite your awkward tone.

Good teams typically have several highly ranked QB's on their roster. Look at USC under Carroll. These guys know that they are an injury/bad game/blowout away from getting to show themselves. GREAT QB's relish competition. It's in their DNA to want to win and compete at the highest level. Someone mentioned John David Booty. If you look at the scenario he had coming into USC, nobody thought he would ever see the field... but guess what.... he did. We have a championship level team right now, so guys are going to want to compete to be the leader of it. Gunner has a great opportunity and he isn't the type of kid (or comes from the type of family) that will tuck his tail between his legs or cry about not playing as a freaking freshman.

You nor I can predict what will happen. Did anybody predict that Crist would poop the bed and that Rees would be a starter for Notre Dame? No... no one did. The position of QB is one of the wildest and most bizarre positions on the field and it is impossible to predict. What I can predict though, is that Gunner is a competitor. Gunner loves Notre Dame and especially after the passing of his uncle Blair, wants to succeed here. His goal isn't to succeed as a college QB, it's to succeed at Notre Dame.

It's easy for someone like you to not get what it means to compete at the highest level. It is easy for you to make broad generalizations about the thought process of an 18 year old kid. But the reality is that you don't know the first d@mn thing about what Gunner is thinking. So your baseless, pointless rhetoric of why you think he will transfer does nothing but put negative karma out there for one of our young men playing for Irish.

I agree that no one knows what will happen exactly. That's sports and that's why we love them. My point was that If Kelly doesn't open up the job (which he will say that its an open competition, whether that really means its open is up to BK) I have a hard time believing that someone with a year under their belt and being in the situations that Golson has been and played well, you as a coach, jump ship on the first four star recruit at the QB position you have brought on. I don't buy that. If Golson gets hurt yeah he may have a shot, there is no denying that. If Golson really struggles and stuggles badly, yeah he may have a shot. Kids want to play and thats the bottom line. Yes, his uncle blair is alum and there is a story there, but that doesn't mean anything. No, I don't know what Gunner is thinking however I we are seeing a situation unfold in front of our eyes that no one knows the answer to. He may transfer he may not. I still feel as if a recruit like that doesn't come to a place to sit for four years and maybe start one (that would be including his redshirt year).

It is easy for me make generalizations about what 18 year old kids think. My family has been in high school coaching for over three generations. I know Gunners High School Coach personally and have talked with him a couple of times about his talent. My grandfather coached at Mishawaka High school for 34 years. My Father Down the road at Rochester high school for 32 years. My brother is currently a head coach in the state of Florida which kicks out more top prospects than any other state in the nation. But your right I have no idea about 18 year old kids and their decisions...

 

[mrmiller8]

And for the record wooly, I hope like hell that Gunner would stay and we would have three four star/five star recruits on the team....however I don't envision that being case (my opinion, if you don't like it thats fine, this is america and its a free country to express my opinion). He is the most likely to transfer because of PT. He has already redshirted and Zaire could redshirt as well which would give zaire a shot at starting two years...Kiel only one as it stands now...

 

[woolybug25]

Reading your posts make my head hurt.

 

[mrmiller8]

Reading your posts make my head hurt.

I apologize for expressing my opinion. Maybe I have taken it too far. I will be more obedient in my posts from now on.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Just curious, why cant Everett become a good nfl player if he progresses how he should the next couple years? Just saying Drew Brees is 6 feet tall

He can become a good NFL player but he will never be a good NFL prospect with that size. Giant QBs who might be worse will be drafted above him because his size plus he will have durability concerns.

 

[irishog77]

I agree that no one knows what will happen exactly. That's sports and that's why we love them. My point was that If Kelly doesn't open up the job (which he will say that its an open competition, whether that really means its open is up to BK) I have a hard time believing that someone with a year under their belt and being in the situations that Golson has been and played well, you as a coach, jump ship on the first four star recruit at the QB position you have brought on. I don't buy that. If Golson gets hurt yeah he may have a shot, there is no denying that. If Golson really struggles and stuggles badly, yeah he may have a shot. Kids want to play and thats the bottom line. Yes, his uncle blair is alum and there is a story there, but that doesn't mean anything. No, I don't know what Gunner is thinking however I we are seeing a situation unfold in front of our eyes that no one knows the answer to. He may transfer he may not. I still feel as if a recruit like that doesn't come to a place to sit for four years and maybe start one (that would be including his redshirt year).

It is easy for me make generalizations about what 18 year old kids think. My family has been in high school coaching for over three generations. I know Gunners High School Coach personally and have talked with him a couple of times about his talent. My grandfather coached at Mishawaka High school for 34 years. My Father Down the road at Rochester high school for 32 years. My brother is currently a head coach in the state of Florida which kicks out more top prospects than any other state in the nation. But your right I have no idea about 18 year old kids and their decisions...

Mbechka, is that you?

 

[Mr. Larson]

Mbechka, is that you?

Mbechka is a two-ton mountain man who could palm a medicine ball.

 

[North Buffalo Irish]

Everett Golson = Russell Wilson

No reason Golson couldn't play in the NFL with dat arm strength, if he develops like we all hope he can. Golson might even be more athletic than Wilson.

I'm kinda sorry I even made that comment about Kiel, but it's an interesting discussion point. With Kelly's propensity to use multiple quarterbacks, I reckon Kiel will get his chance to play and prove himself at ND.

Also think using Hendrix as an H-back and on special teams is a fascinating idea.