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People like Elko aren't looking for low bar/low expectations. He probably thinks he's the best coach in America and there are dozens of others who think the same. Alphas.
To put it in a way your simple brain can better comprehend:

For roughly the same pay, as an executive, do you pick Job A where they’ve gone through four guys in the last decade or Job B where they’ve gone through two in the last 15 years?

Stability matters.
 

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To put it in a way your simple brain can better comprehend:

For roughly the same pay, as an executive, do you pick Job A where they’ve gone through four guys in the last decade or Job B where they’ve gone through two in the last 15 years?

Stability matters.
I don't have a simple brain as much as you wish I did ;).

Office jobs =/ football coaches. Apples to oranges. Offic jobs are veiled, football coaches are front and center, recognized by all and get the chance to be king - the best ones want all the glory and the heat that comes with it, good or bad.

If money is near equal, no one is choosing MSU over Florida unless there's a relationship there (kids there, alum, etc).
 

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I don't have a simple brain as much as you wish I did ;).

Office jobs =/ football coaches. Apples to oranges. Offic jobs are veiled, football coaches are front and center, recognized by all and get the chance to be king - the best ones want all the glory and the heat that comes with it, good or bad.

If money is near equal, no one is choosing MSU over Florida unless there's a relationship there (kids there, alum, etc).
The smart ones know to take a job that suits them, too. Lots of good coaches haven't been good fits for the SEC, and taking the wrong job can derail your career pretty quick.

In that sense it's an interesting call. Elko is more of a Northeast/Midwest guy, and he'd be a natural fit at MSU in a way he might not at Florida. But I'm sure he got a taste of that SEC life at A&M. The question is whether or not he liked it.
 

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Idk man if I were Elko I think that MSU job would be more attractive than Florida. He’ll get paid nearly as much without the expectations. They’re both desperate, but the bar is a hell of a lot lower in EL than with those jorts-wearing knuckleheads in Gainesville.

Plus, MSU has a recent history of being a good place for a defensive-minded coach to build and develop a tough roster (both check marks for Elko), AND the Sparty supporters are surprisingly willing to spend on NIL, which means recruiting might not be as big of a hurdle as it usually is, at least in terms of competing with scUM in the midwest.

That's not to say Elko doesn't see the possibility to build an elite SEC defense at Florida with all the talent in that state, and we know UF has **tried** to throw NIL money around, but MSU vs UF might not be as far apart as some think in terms of job prospects.

It all depends on the guy considering the job.
 

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Plus, MSU has a recent history of being a good place for a defensive-minded coach to build and develop a tough roster (both check marks for Elko), AND the Sparty supporters are surprisingly willing to spend on NIL, which means recruiting might not be as big of a hurdle as it usually is, at least in terms of competing with scUM in the midwest.

That's not to say Elko doesn't see the possibility to build an elite SEC defense at Florida with all the talent in that state, and we know UF has **tried** to throw NIL money around, but MSU vs UF might not be as far apart as some think in terms of job prospects.

It all depends on the guy considering the job.
Duke is willing to spend on NIL and they have a really good program. Actually they may have the best NIL program i've seen the proper way, especially for their basketball team. Their basketball players are making big time $$ for all sorts of things.

I wouldn't leave Duke for MSU unless you feel like the ACC is going to implode very soon.
 

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I don't know if it's been talked about but re watching a lot of the game (it felt like this in person) our line, was extremely slow to react off the snap, even Alt who is never slow off the snap. Whatever cadence we were using vs Duke was terrible and didn't work obviously for many reasons. I think that was a big reason coogan and spindler were late on a lot of blocks because our timing to the snap was off. Alt gave up a few pressures, because he was late.

It was NOT loud at duke until the fourth quarter so that wasn't an excuse despite what freeman stated. Maybe the duke dline was doing something to trick Zeke but he's a 5th yr Sr and has been starting games since 2020, he has to be WAY better.

We're going into Louisville, and I expect it to be louder there than duke.

There's wayyy to much learning of basic stuff after the game, and after we fail at something all game. We should have been able to fix that after the first drive.
 

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We dumped BVG, because we were 1-3 and the defense was among the worst in CFB. And that was in year 3. Keep in mind, the three teams ND lost to during that stretch, they gave up 50 to Texas (5-7), 36 to Michigan State (3-9) and 38 to Duke (4-8). They gave up 500 yards of total offense in each of those 3 losses.

Despite a dud performance against Duke, this offense is far from one of the worst in CFB. This is year 1 for Parker.
Lol they fire Parker and Savvy Jack will actually have to spend money!! Not happening.
 

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The other thing with parker is he's a brand new coordinator for the most part, so teams didn't know what he would run. They do now. Lets see how he starts doing with teams having a lot of film now on him and clear tendencies. Does he adjust?

I thought this team should average about 40 ppg this year, we're probably sitting at 35-36 after a really good start offensively. Louisville has a descent D that we should be able to put 30 on, and Clemson has a good D, after that USC, Pitt, Wake, Stanford have bad defenses (Maybe pitt is average) but they've given up like 40 last 2 games each game to unc and vtech.
 

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Parker will be better in yr 2 as a coordinator. He’s still getting his feet wet
 

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Parker will be better in yr 2 as a coordinator. He’s still getting his feet wet
You'd think, but he has a 6th year pretty darn good QB right now and the best tackle in college and best rb in college. He won't have any of those 3 next year. I expect our RB room to not really drop off, but we won't be as good at QB or LT, especially QB. That's a big deal.
 

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You'd think, but he has a 6th year pretty darn good QB right now and the best tackle in college and best rb in college. He won't have any of those 3 next year. I expect our RB room to not really drop off, but we won't be as good at QB or LT, especially QB. That's a big deal.
Otoh, his players will be in year 2 of his system. Players will be able to play better knowing the sytem. Look at the defence.
 

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Idk man if I were Elko I think that MSU job would be more attractive than Florida. He’ll get paid nearly as much without the expectations. They’re both desperate, but the bar is a hell of a lot lower in EL than with those jorts-wearing knuckleheads in Gainesville.
The smart ones know to take a job that suits them, too. Lots of good coaches haven't been good fits for the SEC, and taking the wrong job can derail your career pretty quick.

In that sense it's an interesting call. Elko is more of a Northeast/Midwest guy, and he'd be a natural fit at MSU in a way he might not at Florida. But I'm sure he got a taste of that SEC life at A&M. The question is whether or not he liked it.
He's an Ivy Leaguer. He's coached at some good academic programs. His first HC job is a Mid Atlantic ACC basketball power with academic standards and he's doing it. His trajectory could go a number of different ways depending on the jobs that open, but man, I think if he were to go somewhere that gave him a little more recruiting slack he could do some damage. He had the whole Jimbo TAMU experience and probably now knows what NOT to do.

His next move is going to be so interesting. He has Michigan State and Northwestern open now, but both of those programs have pretty dark clouds hanging over them. Florida, should it open, would be attractive but then you have the reasons that it would not be. They'll accept him if he wins, if not, or if he stops winning they'll turn on him immediately.

Surely more jobs will become available. He's undoubtedly going to get offers.
 

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I don't know if it's been talked about but re watching a lot of the game (it felt like this in person) our line, was extremely slow to react off the snap, even Alt who is never slow off the snap. Whatever cadence we were using vs Duke was terrible and didn't work obviously for many reasons. I think that was a big reason coogan and spindler were late on a lot of blocks because our timing to the snap was off. Alt gave up a few pressures, because he was late.

It was NOT loud at duke until the fourth quarter so that wasn't an excuse despite what freeman stated. Maybe the duke dline was doing something to trick Zeke but he's a 5th yr Sr and has been starting games since 2020, he has to be WAY better.

We're going into Louisville, and I expect it to be louder there than duke.

There's wayyy to much learning of basic stuff after the game, and after we fail at something all game. We should have been able to fix that after the first drive.
You seem to have a great deal of time to point out ND shortcomings.
 

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There were so many this past weekend, that was coming off a tough loss. I thought the team would be locked in and ready to dominate, they weren't.
 

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There were so many this past weekend, that was coming off a tough loss. I thought the team would be locked in and ready to dominate, they weren't.
That's your own fault. I thought we'd lose that game. Duke was the 17th ranked team on the road after the most gut wrenching loss in a couple decades. They have a really good QB and an excellent defense/defensive coach.

If you're saying you have such a high opinion of this program that we should be crushing fringe top 15 teams on the road by 3-4 touchdowns like we're 2012 Alabama then I guess that's pretty high praise for this coaching staff. I'm sure they appreciate it.
 

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That's your own fault. I thought we'd lose that game. Duke was the 17th ranked team on the road after the most gut wrenching loss in a couple decades. They have a really good QB and an excellent defense/defensive coach.

If you're saying you have such a high opinion of this program that we should be crushing fringe top 15 teams on the road by 3-4 touchdowns like we're 2012 Alabama then I guess that's pretty high praise for this coaching staff. I'm sure they appreciate it.

This is where I was too.

I think all of this boils down to there is only so much value in pointing out that we--once again--don't look like a dominant, NC-calibur team. We aren't. That was pretty darn clear coming into this country based on the lack of pass rush, lack of proven WRs, and holes along the O-line.

It's like providing an NFL eval of Tevon Coney after his 5th game dominating the opposition. It's baked in and doesn't need to be constantly repeated.
 

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I didn't think they'd lose because all they needed was a field goal. Once Duke pooch punted, I was relieved. They have Hartman a shot.

When it was 4th and 16 I thought it was done.
 

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That's your own fault. I thought we'd lose that game. Duke was the 17th ranked team on the road after the most gut wrenching loss in a couple decades. They have a really good QB and an excellent defense/defensive coach.

If you're saying you have such a high opinion of this program that we should be crushing fringe top 15 teams on the road by 3-4 touchdowns like we're 2012 Alabama then I guess that's pretty high praise for this coaching staff. I'm sure they appreciate it.
I thought we would take a step forward. I was worried about Duke if we BEAT OSU, we did not. I didn't expect a 3-4 td win, i expected a 13-17 point win pulling away in the fourth. The team should have been so lasered focused from every coach to every player. They were not. Again, a zillion self inflicted wounds, and not being prepared to snap on the road is crazy, almost as crazy as not getting it fixed. Especially when it wasn't very loud.

I want to believe in Freeman and this staff. Choking at home vs OSU, then squeaking by Duke on the road didn't do it for me. We SHOULD have been able to run on them really well. For a few reasons, we were not able to. The great thing is we won, the season goals aren't over, and we get a top 25 matchup vs a solid team on the road this week. Another opportunity for the team to improve. Freeman talks about improving every game, the only improvement i really saw from OSU to duke was hartman ensuring he gets the first down! Oh, and i think we played with 11 every play.
 

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If for some reason Gerad doesn't work out for ND as OC, maybe we go after this this guy? Kentucky 5-0 heading into Athens to play the Dogs this w/e. In offense rankings, KY not even top 50 (ND is 20) but he's got the offense doing enough to win so far.
 

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If for some reason Gerad doesn't work out for ND as OC, maybe we go after this this guy? Kentucky 5-0 heading into Athens to play the Dogs this w/e. In offense rankings, KY not even top 50 (ND is 20) but he's got the offense doing enough to win so far.

From someone I know, he was contacted by Freeman but not sure there was a good connection there.
 

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Haha-I love that the board has looked for replacements for Freeman, the OC and DC. Hartman was almost on the chopping block but saved himself with the win.
I really do hope Gerad learns how to make adjustments (and soon with USC on the immediate horizon!)
 

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I really do hope Gerad learns how to make adjustments (and soon with USC on the immediate horizon!)
He calls and the teams executed such a great play for the 2 point conversion, but we can’t do anything to keep the other team on their heels except fake a punt.
 

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There were so many this past weekend, that was coming off a tough loss. I thought the team would be locked in and ready to dominate, they weren't.
How about once in a while you give a little credit to our opponent too? Everybody preaches QB is the most important position on the field, and we went on the road against a ranked and REALLY well coached team with a potential first round QB and won. Everything doesnt always have to suck. Duke is a good team too, and they werent going to just roll over and let ND fuck em in the ass.
 

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How about once in a while you give a little credit to our opponent too? Everybody preaches QB is the most important position on the field, and we went on the road against a ranked and REALLY well coached team with a potential first round QB and won. Everything doesnt always have to suck. Duke is a good team too, and they werent going to just roll over and let ND fuck em in the ass.
no thats why you gotta force it

It was an opportunity to make a statement after brutal osu loss, I thought we would make it, we didn’t
 
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